A Bill Barely Worth Passing, A Process Well Worth Deploring
by Turkana
Ezra Klein often is quoted by supporters of the health insurance bill. He's the type of safe, left-centrist that in the Beltway comfortably passes for a liberal. In the past year, he hasn't been much of a fan of a public option, and he's often been found rationalizing the compromises that have whittled the bill down to where its value is so hotly debated. It's instructive, therefore, to review his description of the bill, from just a few weeks ago:
The Senate bill is almost identical to the legislation supported by moderate Republicans in 1993.
Got that?
He then draws contrasts with the "far, far more conservative (and useless)" Boehner plan, and admits that the current bill "doesn't look anything like" the 1993 Clinton plan or more liberal efforts such as Medicare for all. And we should be celebrating this?
A year ago, we had a Democratic president elected by the largest majority in a generation. No Democratic president had been elected by such a large majority in a couple generations. We had large Democratic majorities in both Houses of Congress, and by summer we had sixty members of the Democratic Caucus in the Senate. We also had a nation still politically shellshocked from the worst administration in history, and yearning for transformational change. And the result, on the most important item on the domestic agenda, is, essentially, a 1993 plan put forth by moderate Republicans. And we should be celebrating this?
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Hoover and the Depression Live
by paradox
I was born only 34 years after the Great Depression, yet growing up the era was treated as if it was in the Cambrian epoch of human development, a world in black and white film far, far away in the past, the methods of market and society as stilted and clumsily jerky as human figures in the grainy images. The smug hubris of our very wealthy and educated is remarkable to behold, how very sure, we were told so many times, the Depression could never happen again, we had come so far, learned so much and put so much in place.
Right about when the global casino called the “financial market” blew up on a number of fronts--$400 billion in bailout money to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac alone in a howling maelstrom of desperately fucked up moves with little people money to keep Depression II behind the dikes--in the last two years California became ever more dysfunctional in its broken revenue streams. We collect taxes poorly, and when we need the money the most in a recession we get precisely the worst performance, we’re god-awful broke on the State books.
Continue reading "Hoover and the Depression Live"Open Thread
by Mary
A few things to read regarding the Israeli/US dispute, because there seem to be a lot of hidden forces which drove the incident and the response creating the current rift. The following pieces help put this incident in context and perhaps answer some of the questions about what the heck happened?
Continue reading "Open Thread"Onward Healthcare Soldiers
by paradox
I have been ill again, I’m afraid, and to say I’m discouraged in the matter on this cold late winter morning wouldn’t come remotely close to the utter despair I feel. I have a few things I feel are absolutely necessary to say and then I’m going to resist crawling into a deep dark hole for the rest of the day.
This is the week—in however these things get decided—when healthcare legislation at last reaches the holy nirvana zone of accomplished, passed, the law. Best of luck to my earnest Democratic brothers and sisters in baking in the best of tiny details as the deed is finally done, truly, I think it’s been the worst fucking political nightmare outside of election evolutions I’ve ever experienced but, it’s just me, of course, please celebrate a victory richly earned.
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by Mary
Paul Krugman advises that the US take a tough stand on the China unvalued currency which is major factor in keeping the global economy in the dumps.
Open Thread
by Mary
So what makes someone (the) anti-Christ? Perhaps a wee bit of anti-social justice. 'Cause according to the religion of Beck, if you read the Bible you must believe the poor and the weak brought their condition onto themselves and it ain't anyone's problem but their own.
Three Cheers for the Upcoming Huge, Massive, Unprecedented, Historic, Deeply Progressive Victory!
by eriposte
Forgive me for being a bit late to the advance celebrations, but I wanted to highlight some recent posts that have celebrated the accomplishments of progressives when it comes to the Senate/White House version of Health Reform.TM
First, Ezra Klein's post on March 8, 2010 (emphasis mine, throughout this post):
Reading Chris Bowers's excellent list of the progressive priorities fulfilled or partially fulfilled by the health-care bill's sidecar amendments is a reminder of how peculiar the framing of this debate has been. There's no doubt that progressives have suffered some real losses in the legislative process. The public option, for one. But along the way, a lot of progressives have lost sight of the fact that the very existence of this legislative process is a huge [italics in original] progressive victory.
[...Ezra's brief commentary on why this bill is super...]I don't want to suggest this bill is all progressive victories. It isn't. It isn't single-payer and there's no public option, and though I think the excise tax is a progressive tax, I grant that reasonable people disagree on this matter. But the fact of it is that this bill represents an enormous leftward shift for American social policy. It is not, in my view, a sufficient leftward shift, but it is unmatched by anything that has passed into law in recent decades. Progressives have lost some very hard battles but are on the cusp of winning an incredibly important war. For all its imperfections, health-care reform itself is deeply, deeply progressive. And if you don't believe me, just ask the conservatives who have made opposing it their top priority.
Actually, I'd rather not ask conservatives since they are generally likely to call any bill from Democrats "liberal" and "socialist". Rather, I think the best person to ask about Ezra's gushing post about the Deeply, Deeply ProgressiveTM victory that the current bill reflects, would be his namesake, Ezra Klein on February 24, 2010:
When Democrats become Republicans and Republicans become conservatives
To put a finer point on my earlier post about the compromises in the health-care bill, check out this Kaiser News Network table comparing the Senate bill, Boehner's bill, and the bill that moderate Republican Lincoln Chafee developed as an alternative to Bill Clinton's legislation in 1993.
The Senate bill is almost identical to the legislation supported by moderate Republicans in 1993. Boehner's bill, by contrast, is far, far more conservative (and useless) than what moderate Republicans developed in 1993. Conversely, the Senate bill doesn't look anything like the Clinton plan itself, much less like the more liberal efforts to expand Medicare to all Americans. We've got a situation in which Democrats are essentially pushing moderate Republican ideas while Republicans push extremely conservative ideas, but because neither the press nor the voters know very much about health-care policy, the fact that Republicans refuse to admit that Democrats have massively compromised their vision is enough to convince people that Democrats aren't compromising.
So, as of February 24, 2010, according to a guy called Ezra Klein, the Democrats' version of Health ReformTM (i.e., the bill that both the Senate and the Obama White House are behind) is basically almost identical to the 1993 Dole-Chafee Republican bill - that was offered as a conservative counter-proposal to a more liberal bill from then President Bill Clinton (also read this post by Seth Ackerman at Tiny Revolution). Per Ezra, this represented a massive compromise of the Democratic vision - a compromise that the Mean Ol' Republicans refused to recognize but all well informed and highly intelligent Democrats clearly understood. Two weeks later, according to a guy called Ezra Klein (who happens to coincidentally write at the same Washington Post blog as the first Ezra Klein, as the Foremost Liberal Expert on Health CareTM!) the Democrats' version of Health ReformTM (i.e., the bill that both the Senate and the Obama White House are behind) is deeply, deeply progressive. I suppose that means the Dole-Chafee Republican bill from 1993 was basically Deeply, Deeply ProgressiveTM. Should we therefore send some epithets by way of then-President Clinton for discarding the Deeply, Deeply ProgressiveTM 1993 Dole-Chafee bill? Hmmm, I wonder.
On Feb 24, Steve Benen at Washington Monthly, excitedly recommended Ezra Klein's Feb 24 post, and concluded:
Continue reading "Three Cheers for the Upcoming Huge, Massive, Unprecedented, Historic, Deeply Progressive Victory!"The Votes are There to Fix it Later! Yay!
by eriposte
I guess I had to force myself to come back from oblivion to post this because the arguments from the Pass Health "Reform" and Fix It Later (PHRFILTM) crowd are becoming more and more hilarious by the day.
The latest entry in this drama is from Steve Benen at Washington Monthly (emphasis mine, throughout this post):
But this observation, related to the public option, was even more striking.
Kucinich says he doesn't buy Obama's latest argument to progressives that there will be other opportunities to improve upon the legislation once they help him pass this bill.
"Fix it later, are you kidding?" he said. "If you don't get it in the bill up front, it's not going to happen."
Now, the president really has told progressive lawmakers that Congress can return to the public option later, and incorporate the idea into this reform framework. The notion that improvements like the public option are gone forever if they don't pass immediately is foolish.
The fun starts with that passage, where we learn that since The President Has Said It, It Must Therefore Be True. That's just great!
Steve then goes on to explain using the examples of Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security how all those programs were improved with time. There are some problems with this argument, including the one small detail he left out - namely, that it is much easier to enhance programs that are explicitly Government-run (like Medicare or Social Security, for example) once the Government actually starts running them and delivers benefits to people. The problem with applying this argument to the current bill is that the option of a Government-run health insurance program is being explicitly rejected in the current bill, with the excision of the already watered down "public option" from the bill. So, this argument is rather misleading to say the least.
Steve digs a much deeper hole for himself by using Nate Silver's recent post - Obama's No F.D.R. -- Nor Does He Have F.D.R.'s Majority - to seemingly bolster his case:
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by Mary
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For 2010, It Needs To Be About Jobs
by Steve
Any time you see a Democrat or any Republican rant about federal spending and the deficit, and not offer full-throated support for an immediate and strong jobs bill, ingore that person. They don't care about Main Street, and only want to give the appearance of caring about the problems of families when in fact all they care about is creating a false narrative that we're about to become a banana republic if we don't tighten spending and worry about deficits and higher interest rates.
Yes, we can argue that Obama was too timid with the first stimulus package, and gave too much ground on tax cuts and didn't insist enough on more direct spending on infrastructure. He didn't, and he and Larry Summers were wrong on that and the likes of Paul Krugman, Robert Reich, and Joseph Stiglitz were right. But as James Carville said two decades ago, it's the economy stupid, and kitchen table issues are the best guide on how the party in power can stay in power. For the GOP, they lure voters with tax cuts that never produce jobs, but the misdirection keeps working anyway. For Democrats, it has and always should be about jobs and rebuilding communities here at home, and not offshoring the middle class into poverty.
Gallup's latest poll only proves this point, and every Democrat running this fall, and the White House need to plaster this on their War Room walls.
Unemployment now stands alone as the top issue in Gallup's latest update on the most important problem facing the country. Thirty-one percent of Americans mention jobs or unemployment, significantly more than say the economy in general (24%), healthcare (20%), or dissatisfaction with government (10%).
Note from this poll that concern over unemployment has doubled since last August. In fact, specific concerns over unemployment and more general concerns about the economy dwarf everything else. Only eight (8) percent of respondents named the deficit as their biggest concern now, but it was so far down the list as to be an afterthought for most Americans at this time.
Let the GOP rant about spending; Democrats should immediately pin them down on what their plan is on jobs, and then force them to offer up more deficit-inducing tax cuts, which do nothing to create demand and only enrich the usual suspects. Any candidate who prioritizes cutting spending instead of a second stimulus bill is more in touch with their donors than Main Street, and any media outlet or think tank that does so isn't in the real world. For Democrats, no matter what happens on health care, the path to success in 2010 runs through job creation and putting Main Street ahead of Wall Street.
Toxic Talk Radio
by Mary
Digby links to an article by Eric Alterman and Danny Goldman discussing the toxic nature of talk radio and how broad of an audience is following the shock jocks.
One way to follow the poison is to track the creepy lies and propaganda on Media Matters where they have a running clip of what's being said. Here is what they caught Glenn Beck saying today in under three hours. Just think of the impact on our politics when you consider that the 48 million people are listening to this every day.
Durbin: If The House Passes A Public Option, He Will Whip FOR It
by Turkana
Senator Dick Durbin’s office now is saying that if House Dems pass a public option as part of their reconciliation fix, he will whip for it in the Senate. Greg Sargent has Durbin's response to critics who have lambasted him for saying he would oppose a public option reconciliation fix:
But Durbin’s spokesman, Joe Shoemaker, emails to clarify:Sen. Durbin and the rest of the Senate Leadership will be aggressively whipping FOR the public option if it is included in the reconciliation bill the House sends over.Here’s how the chronology would unfold: House passes Senate bill. It becomes law. House then initiates reconciliation fix, including public option. Senate leadership whips to pass reconciliation fix in Senate. Reconciliation fix — including public option — becomes law.
Seems pretty straightforward.
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by Mary
Paul Krugman addresses 3 myths about the Democratic health care reform. And his conclusion? Time to get this thing passed now.
Update from paradox 03/12/10 0629: I've been sick, I'm afraid, I'll be back tomorrow or Sunday.
Make The GOP Filibuster Financial Reform
by Deacon Blues
After attempting to reach a bipartisan agreement with a new GOP dance partner, only to see the GOP try and run the clock out to prevent a new consumer protection agency on financial products, Chris Dodd announced this morning that he's going ahead with his own financial reform bill.
Dodd got nowhere with GOP dinosaur Richard Shelby and felt he could do business instead with Tennessee GOP senator Bob Corker, only to find that Corker was giving on small stuff but stalling on the big piece, which was to establish a new agency to protect Main Street from Wall Street. With the legislative clock running out, Dodd finally took back control of the bill today and will go forward with a Democratic bill that will have the consumer protections in it that Wall Street and their GOP sluts have fought since Day One, as if the meltdown never happened. The GOP and Wall Street want the status quo, and yet for some reason Democrats have been afraid to make the GOP filibuster this bill, which is a perfect defining issue for the 2010 midterms.
Note how the LA Times reporter buys into the right wing spin that any Democratic bill without GOP support "spells trouble" for the Democrats, even though they won the last election and have a solid majority in both houses.
Dodd said he will unveil his latest draft of the legislation Monday and wants his committee to begin considering a bill the week of March 22. But with Republicans holding enough seats to block any legislation, the failure to produce a bipartisan bill spells trouble for Democrats hoping to push through a regulatory overhaul that is one of President Obama's top priorities.
Corker said he was disappointed, but would continue to work with Dodd. Corker said that with a push coming by Democrats to pass healthcare overhaul using a controversial Senate procedure, Dodd "felt the need to go ahead regardless of where we are in the negotiations to put forth a bill on Monday."
That's right; majority rule and reconciliation, two things that the GOP used freely during their time in power, are now suddenly "trouble" and "controversial" when the Democrats use them, according to this reporter.
If the Democrats knew what they were doing, they would:
1) Have an aggressive media pushback operation to deal with garbage like this; and
2) Force the GOP to filibuster this bill.
But then, that would require them to know what they are doing. Yet Harry Reid may be getting a clue.
What Global Warming?
by Steve
I guess it shouldn't be surprising that in the midst of a bad economy, a very cold and wet winter, an unrigorous scientific community, and a persistent and Pollution Lobby-funded corporate denial campaign that more Americans than ever doubt the seriousness of global warming.
Gallup's annual update on Americans' attitudes toward the environment shows a public that over the last two years has become less worried about the threat of global warming, less convinced that its effects are already happening, and more likely to believe that scientists themselves are uncertain about its occurrence. In response to one key question, 48% of Americans now believe that the seriousness of global warming is generally exaggerated, up from 41% in 2009 and 31% in 1997, when Gallup first asked the question.
[snip]
Roughly half of Americans now say that "most scientists believe that global warming is occurring," down from 65% in recent years. The dominant opposing thesis, held by 36% of Americans, is that scientists are unsure about global warming. An additional 10% say most scientists believe global warming is not occurring.
Which is flatly not true, and a product of the conservative media telling its sheeple of great divisions within the scientific community.
Also, do you wonder why Gallup has been asking these global warming-related questions all these years at the end of winter, instead of at the end of summer?
Open Thread
by Mary
Granny D, who at the age of 90 walked 3200 miles across the United States to bring attention to the need of campaign finance reform, has died at the age of 100. She truly was an inspiring example for all of us. May she rest in peace.
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Another Myth Bites The Dust
by Steve
At a time when Obama's troubles are being attributed to an insular, small Chicago cabal running the White House, his opponent for the Democratic nomination is being credited with re-energizing the State Department by broadening her circle and giving more people access to the top at Foggy Bottom.
But of course she would have made a bad president . . . .

