Monday :: Aug 28, 2006

21st Century Schizoid Plan

by pessimist

Despite all of the reports that Hillary Clinton and John McCain are the respective front-runners of their parties for the 2008 presidential candidacy, these choices aren't popular with some:

Clinton's prospects in 2008 presidential race August 26, 2006

Re "The job she should want," Opinion, Aug. 22 LA Times

• A majority of respondents in recent polls have consistently said that the invasion of Iraq was wrong, that they oppose continuing the war and that they support a timetable for the removal of U.S. troops from Iraq. So why are Clinton, Giuliani and McCain the front-runners in the 2008 presidential race?

Former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani has strongly endorsed President Bush's Iraq policy. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has advocated increasing U.S. troops in Iraq. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) has said that setting a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops would be a mistake.

We can certainly do better.

DAVID HOLLAND, Northridge [CA]

• I have a better suggestion for Sen. Clinton and her husband: retire from public life and let the people who care about this country be in charge. The Clintons' main priority is what is best for them. Voters should think long and hard before they vote in the fall election and in 2008.

GINNY YANNA, Prairie du Chien, Wis.

• I suspect that all the baseless commentaries on how Sen. Clinton can't win are a Republican plot because they are running scared. The fact is Clinton leads everyone — Democrats and Republicans — with the exception of McCain, whom she ties.

Give it up. Clinton's going to run, and it will be the most exciting election of our lifetimes.


Will it be Hillary v. John in 2008? You just might be surprised!

Assuming that John McCain gains the electors necessary to claim the GOP presidential nomination, it will be over the objections of those on either end of the political spectrum. First, those who claim conservatism as their political religion:

John McCain Tries Maverick Again, Slams Bush
By Robert Hernandez
Aug 24, 2006

John McCain (R-AZ) dusted off his 'maverick' label yet again and the one-time staunch defender of the Iraq war slammed the Bush administration for misleading Americans into believing the conflict would be "some kind of day at the beach."

The potential 2008 presidential candidate, who while campaigning a day earlier had rejected calls for withdrawing U.S. forces, said the administration had failed to make clear the challenges facing the military, reports AP.

Good to have the 'say anything to try and get elected' John McCain back. The Arizona Senator ought to be quite the kick once he really gets ready for his 2008 campaign.

And from Rush's little brother:

McCain's Machiavellian miscalculation
By David Limbaugh
August 25, 2006

Regardless of whether liberals are willing to jump back in bed with McCain, it's doubtful sufficient Republicans will fall for his act again. He was always at best a long shot for the GOP presidential nomination because of his regrettable advocacy of campaign finance reform, his unpredictable temperament, his social liberalism and his pronounced disdain for Christian conservatives, which he reaffirmed quite recently.
McCain has virtually sabotaged his already dim chances
for the Republican nomination -- and rightly so.

Regular readers know that I have long been an advocate for a third viable political party in America - but I'm sure this isn't the one I had in mind:

John McCain: A Liberal in Disguise
By Matthew A. Roberts
Aug 24, 2006

Matthew A. Roberts is a freelance columnist
This column was originally printed on 5/2/06

The greatest irony of McCain's masquerade is that he packages himself as a principled conservative, one with character, who rises above partisan politics. In reality, however, he is as disingenuous as the Clintons, and presently bends whichever the way the wind blows to bolster himself for 2008.

Senator Lindsey Graham, another liberal in disguise [!], comments correctly that the present is a defining moment for the Republican Party, although his underlying analysis is wrong. The choice is between a party of McCain's vision, a party indistinguishable from the Democratic Party, or a party that at least maintains a modicum of conservatism.

If McCain loses, hopefully he will depart for the Democratic Party (where he belongs);
but if he wins, expect to see a mass exodus
of conservative voters from the GOP, probably over to a third party.

Not long ago, Alan Greenspan said "the ground was ripe for a third party presidential candidate...", so I don't discount the threatened abandonment of the GOP by these radicals should John McCain win the 2008 election as mere talk. But I doubt that the third party that emerges will contain these bolters.

It's been a frequent topic in our posts here on TLC, but Rupert Murdoch has been very supportive of both Hillary and McCain, eventually publicly leaning toward McCain. But he hasn't completely abandoned Hillary, or she would be acting very differently. Could there be a deal in the works? Maybe, and Murdoch would be at the center of it:

Rupert Murdoch’s support of both the left and the right as well as totalitarian regimes — all in the name of increasing his wealth — makes it increasingly difficult to distinguish the pigs from the humans. This is no more true than in Murdoch’s dealings with Hillary Clinton.

Could Rupert be at the hub of this fledgling Greenspan third party? Perhaps - and some on the Red side seem to think McCain, Rupert's champion apparent, favors the third party approach:

Is John McCain Running in '08 From a Third Party?
By Erick

John McCain ... will have a hard time winning a Republican primary, where voters tend to actually be conservative. I expect they'll run him over should he run in their primary.
More and more I'm wondering if McCain is trying to set himself up to run, like his hero Teddy Roosevelt, as a third party candidate for President.
McCain hacks off conservatives with his campaign finance reforms and willingness to raise taxes. He hacks off liberals by being mostly pro-life and mostly supportive of the President's war efforts. But now he's backtracking on the war to some degree.

McCain is setting himself up to be above the political fray and, for that to work, one might wonder if he'll need a party vehicle above the fray to get him to the White House. Such a vehicle would also have to be above the partisan fray.

McCain, in effect, looks like he wants to become
the first nonpartisan person to run for partisan office.

And his running mate?

John McCain and Hillary Clinton: From Drinkin’ Buddies to Running Mates?
Vox Populi, Doug Powers
July 30, 2006

[W]e begin to run into George Carlin’s definition of bipartisanship: “The word bipartisan means that some larger than usual deception is being carried out.”

This from the New York Times (warning: link gives away absolutely no information that is helpful to al-Qaeda):

Two summers ago, on a Congressional trip to Estonia, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton astonished her traveling companions by suggesting that the group do what one does in the Baltics: hold a vodka-drinking contest. Delighted, the leader of the delegation, Senator John McCain, quickly agreed.

The after-dinner drinks went so well — memories are a bit hazy on who drank how much — that Mr. McCain, an Arizona Republican, later told people how unexpectedly engaging he found Mrs. Clinton to be. “One of the guys” was the way he described Mrs. Clinton, a New York Democrat, to some Republican colleagues.

Mrs. Clinton and Mr. McCain went on to develop an amiable if professionally calculated relationship. They took more official trips together, including to Iraq. They worked together on the Senate Armed Services Committee and on the issue of global warming. They made a joint appearance last year on Meet the Press, interacting so congenially that the moderator, Tim Russert, joked about their forming a “fusion ticket.”

Sounds like they’re this close to an appearance on The Dating Game.

Will Hillary and McCain be running against each other in 2008? A few more drinks and they just may end up on the same ticket.

It's way too early to say for sure, but one possible scenario of these events could certainly be such a ticket on a third party platform funded by Rupert Murdoch.

He'd see it as an excellent investment.

It's for this reason that I'm going to state here and now that I could not support such a ticket even if it might mean realizing a goal I've had since 1980. Such a ticket would clearly be in the thrall of Murdoch's fat wallet, and we already have enough problems with corporations owning pieces of our state and national governments without one person owning the biggest piece of all, the Boardwalk of American Corporate Monopoly Politics, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

I'd almost rather Bu$h decreed that he was eligible to hold office for a third term - provided he was proclaimed dictator by (Diebold and SCOTUS) acclaimation.

I think I'll stop before you all disgorge your dinners.

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