i may be late about this but reading crooks and liars, this guy lam was blaming science for the tragedy at va tech. claiming that by not teaching creationism, we are getting away from godly values... i paraphrase but you get the point. what is more tragic, the massacre at tech or the religious right using it as a method to advance their deluded views...
Posted by anthony at April 18, 2007 03:30 AMRep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), has declared in a letter sent to his Democratic House colleagues that he plans to file articles of impeachment against Vice President Dick Cheney.
Way to go Kucinich!
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2007/04/articles_of_impeachment_to_be.html
Posted by Christopher at April 18, 2007 03:44 AMThe VATech shooter was disturbed, and exhibited anti social behavior; some people reported him to the police who did nothing until it was too late. Kinda like Bush and the American people, eh?
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[Editor: ignore=off]Do you really believe that Bush reads books? I remember a time when he was being passed off as an intellectural too. I content that Bush has read none of these books. When he was cornered in NO by a reporter and asked about the book by Camus the media claimed he was reading, it was painfully aware that no such book was being read. He may read selective pages to reinforce some insane thinking, but actually read an entire book, absolutely not. Bush has the attention span of a nat.
Posted by Judith at April 18, 2007 06:15 AMBush reads crib notes.
Posted by Christopher at April 18, 2007 06:23 AMRichard Perle was on Rose's Show last night. Perle went back to that old line that it was Clinton's fault that the WTC tragedy happened, because he didn't go far enough to catch OBL. Watching this despicable man, it is apparent he really does believe this kind of bull. Of course, Bush is given a pass.
If people like Perle were allowed to write history, Bush would be the greatest president that ever lived.
Posted by Judith at April 18, 2007 06:31 AMPerle went back to that old line that it was Clinton's fault that the WTC tragedy happened, because he didn't go far enough to catch OBL.
Ah, excuse me but it was the Bush administration that ignored the August 6th, 2001 PBD that warned of the 9/11 attacks.
As far as capturing OBL, the Bush administration has scuttled funding directly intended to apprehend OBL because they need a McGuffin to justify the so-called 'war on terror.'
Posted by Christopher at April 18, 2007 06:40 AMChristopher, all neo-cons have one thing in common, perverted thinking.
Posted by Judith at April 18, 2007 06:47 AMFour big bombs exploded across Baghdad on Wednesday, killing at least 66 people and wounding nearly 150 as violence climbed toward levels seen before the U.S.-Iraqi campaign to pacify the capital began two months ago.
You know, what happened at VT is horrific, but I don't need three days and nights of it. Speculation, hearsay, guessing, accusations, and shoving mics in the faces of those who just lost a family member, is not my idea of responsible reporting. Sixty six people were killed in Bagdad yesterday. Does it cross anyone's mind that these people grieve also?
Posted by Judith at April 18, 2007 06:57 AMJudith, Perle's probably trying to deflect attention from his involvement in getting Wolfie's girlfriend a job in Iraq. What an idiot.
Posted by iamcoyote at April 18, 2007 07:10 AMFuck off, scout, you've been banned.
Posted by iamcoyote at April 18, 2007 07:12 AMDeath of hundreds each day in Iraq is now beyond routine and not considered "newsworthy".
I'm have to say I'm with Judith on the Bush Book Klub. I simply can't believe he reads any books.
Perhaps there's a duly apocalyptic "executive summary" (max: two pages) prepared by a young evangelical WH staffer from End Timer University, who is an "expert" in such escatalogical matters. Laura then reads it to Nero while he drinks beer and looks at cartoon drawings of Truman and Churchill.
Posted by euzoius at April 18, 2007 07:17 AMeuzoius, you're right on. I forgot which blog it was that kept an eye on the books Bush carried with him, but they found him toting around one for months - and when asked about it, Bush couldn't say a thing about what the book was about. Another meaningless photo prop.
I think the announcement of these books he's reading is more of a message to the press on where his puppetmasters are coming from, rather than Bush's reading habits. Kinda like the release of his iPod lists.
Posted by iamcoyote at April 18, 2007 07:31 AMYikes, everyone, here come the theocrats...
Supreme Court upholds law banning some abortions
Posted by iamcoyote at April 18, 2007 07:34 AMThanks for the link, coyote; this was what most expected would happen.
This case upholds the Repubs "Partial Birth Abortion" Act. All lower courts to date had struck it down as a violation of Roe. It will now take effect.
Roberts and Alito in their first abortion ruling: rock solid against choice. What a surprise.
The times, they are a-changin', folks. The Supreme Court will now be an enemy of individual rights and a champion of executive power. Another thing Bushism hath wrought.
Posted by euzoius at April 18, 2007 07:56 AMAnother thing Bushism hath wrought.
Historians will see this as the Dark Ages of the US.
Posted by iamcoyote at April 18, 2007 08:00 AMhy, Jzbl Jckl, hw s t tht y fk gttng pst whn nttr, lss psychtc thn yrslf, blws p bnch f yng ppl, thn rct glflly whn nbrn ppl r mrdrd wtht chnc? Thts psychtc crp; smtms Cnstttnl lw dlzng slfshnss mst b qstnd, bt thts t hrd fr dmns f x-cht rms, nd ldrs f cbbg ptch kks, rght?
Hw d y lk m nw? :)
[Editor: ignore=off]Scout, enough already. If I have a choice between my regular commenters and you, you lose out. Please go somewhere else.
Posted by at April 18, 2007 08:11 AMSadly, this troll is not going to go away, so I guess it's up to us to ignore the asshole as he ratchets up the outrage. Oh well, the world is full of loonies, isn't it?
euzoius, I guess we did know this was coming, and since the right can't discuss actual issues and concerns, they're going to start throwing out the "moral" and "social" issues to try to distract from their inability to govern. We may have won a victory in November, but the war against the authoritarians is going to go on forever.
Posted by iamcoyote at April 18, 2007 08:27 AMthen react gleefully...
There was nothing 'gleeful' about iamcoyote's comment re the partial birth abortion ruling scout.
The fact that you need to blatantly mischaracterize people's comments reveals you for the troll that you are.
...when unborn people are murdered without a chance?
As I've said before. The fetus should certainly be given the opportunity to vacate the woman's uterus before an abortion proceedure is performed. It's only fair. If the fetus is unable to make other arrangements and refuses to leave willingly then it shall be removed.
If the fetus is unable to make other arrangements and refuses to leave willingly then it shall be removed.
Now, that's gleeful! Our local abortion chapter has agreed to hold all fetuses (feti??) until just before the cutoff date before getting abortions, just to piss off the fundies.
Posted by iamcoyote at April 18, 2007 08:38 AMBetter idea!
All the fetuses could be issued guns.
That way they could defend themselves against the doctors trying to remove them.
I mean, if a doctor comes up against a fetus packing heat he's gonna turn tail and run right?
Posted by snark at April 18, 2007 08:39 AMOkay, I kept my opinion and mouth shut about this for a long time and tried my best to ignore people who spout meaningless, stupid, incomprehensible, despicable, and outrageously inflammatory comments ...but this has got to stop!
Scout,please grow up and knock it off...enough already! Do yourself and everyone here a favor....go away and stop your nonsense! Your "how do you like me now?" :) schtick is also tiresome and junior high...In the vast world of the blogosphere, I'm sure you can find some chat room that your comments will be read and appreciated by a much wider audience. And while your at it, I would be remiss if I didn't urge you as others have in the past to get some help (as in mental health).
Steve and or others...please ban this person, who adds nothing useful to discussions and whose sole purpose in being here appears to satisfy a craving for negative attention....which is sick.
okay, I'm done and that is the last I will say on the matter...back to my ignore mode.
Posted by emal at April 18, 2007 08:47 AM
I mean, if a doctor comes up against a fetus packing heat he's gonna turn tail and run right?
Wussies! Manly men would soldier on, and wrestle the tiny little gun away.
emal, the "how do you like me now" is akin to the teabagger's "thanks for the bandwidth." Kids these days, no respect for their betters.
Posted by iamcoyote at April 18, 2007 09:13 AMScout: "I never attack anyone on a personal level."
By-the-way Scout, you may want to look up the word hypocrite.
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[Editor: ignore=off]snark, you fool, a fetus is a baby. The term fetus is simply a label for a stage of babyhood. Talk about pure Orwellian crap, you're it.
You say 'unborn people'.
I say 'fetus'.
Democracy, right?
I'm not the one throwing around labels scout. It's not me who calls people Bolsheviks and neo-Nazis.
You frame your comments around hatred, vilification and condemnation. I use humor. If you can't deal with that that's your problem friend.
Posted by snark at April 18, 2007 09:32 AMTechnical problems at Research in Motion cut off wireless e-mail service to millions of users of its BlackBerry hand-held devices in the United States for more than 10 hours overnight.
Boy, Rove'll do anything not to give Waxman those emails, huh?
Posted by iamcoyote at April 18, 2007 09:45 AMIamcoyote, thanks for the link. We better pray for the well-being of the liberal Supreme Court Justices. All Bush needs is to replace one more, and he has the time to do it, if anything changes on the Court.
The banning of anything always begins with the first judgement against it. This is a huge victory for the opposition. Of course, very few late trimester abortions are performed, and only after a panel of doctors agree that, for medical reasons, it is the correct thing to do. However, the opposition has no problem of denying a woman a late term abortion after discovery of a fetal abnormality, undetectable earlier in the pregnancy or when a pregnancy becomes a risk to the mother's life or health.
In the third trimester, a woman whose health, whose future fertility, or whose life is placed in jeopardy by the pregnancy, (by a fetus that is incompatible with life), is the only reason that that pregnancy can be terminated.
Here is the solid stand of the American College of Obstetricians and Gyncologists:
"The intervention of legislative bodies into medical decision making is inappropriate, ill advised, and dangerous. The intact D&E.may be the best or most appropriate procedure in a particular circumstance to save the life or preserve the health of a woman and only the doctor, in consultation with the patient, based upon the
woman's particular circumstances can make this decision. The potential exists that legislation prohibiting specific medical practices, such as the intact D&E, may outlaw techniques that are critical to the lives and health of American women."
"We believe that the deliberate lies, deception, and outright distortion that the anti-abortion movement has engaged in throughout this debate to achieve a total ban on all abortions, must be aggressively exposed."
"We believe that Roe vs. Wade's legal and moral determination that prior to viability, even and especially within the late second trimester, a woman has a right to decide to terminate a pregnancy, for any reason, must be proudly stood and spoken for. Life and Liberty for Women believes it is here that the current abortion rights movement has failed in its defense of PBA, to the general public."
"The intervention of legislative bodies into medical decision making is inappropriate, ill advised, and dangerous." American College of Obstretricians and Gynecologists
Elections have consequences, chumps.
Have a problem? Elect new legislators.
Posted by lordtyranus2 at April 18, 2007 09:50 AM"Friends do not defend friends when they are wrong, even if you don't like what I think, as we live, supposedly, in a place where free and fair expression is favored."
Did it ever cross your mind that I agree with Iamcoyote on most everything? You Scout have attacked Iamcoyote many times without being provoked, so the victim role doesn't apply.
Posted by Judith at April 18, 2007 09:53 AM"Democracy, right?"
Yep, and this law was passed by democratically elected legislatures. Or does the will of Congress only matter when it comes to Iraq?
Posted by lordtyranus2 at April 18, 2007 09:57 AMscout, what part of fuck off or banned do you not understand? Why do you continue to post at a site where you are universally loathed? What is wrong with your pickled brain?
The only "book" that Bush has ever read is a 1982 edition of Hustler. Sadly, Pickles found it, and it went into the dumpster, where scout apparently lives...
Posted by tempus at April 18, 2007 09:57 AMSteve, why ban Scout only to allow him access weeks later. This is just getting out-of-hand again. Some would prefer it if he was not allowed to post again on this site. It has nothing to do with freedom of expression, but rather the wasted time and bandwidth of nonsense. I also do not appreciate the general negative slang about women.
Posted by Judith at April 18, 2007 10:00 AMLordanus, what the hell are you talking about? We are talking about the SCOTUS and it's ruling on abortion.
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Wht ls y gt? :)
[Editor: ignore=off]As opposed to precluding thinking outside the Bible. For instance.
Posted by snark at April 18, 2007 10:17 AM"Lordanus, what the hell are you talking about? We are talking about the SCOTUS and it's ruling on abortion."
They ruled to uphold a law passed by Congress. If you have a problem, change the law, and the Court's decision is irrelevant.
For the record, I don't care much for abortion rights, but I'm not pro-life either.
Posted by lordtyranus2 at April 18, 2007 10:18 AMscout, have you had an MRI lately? You are sadly in need of one, along with a three-day psychiatric evaluation, which I know you will flunk. Then it's off to the Cukoos Nest with you, forever.
Posted by tempus at April 18, 2007 10:22 AMFor the record, I don't care much for abortion rights, but I'm not pro-life either.
See, I'm pro-life but I'm opposed to the government getting involved in how women decide to reproduce.
Posted by snark at April 18, 2007 10:22 AM"See, I'm pro-life but I'm opposed to the government getting involved in how women decide to reproduce."
Does that include state funding of abortions? Because then they're getting involved, by paying for it.
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[Editor: ignore=off]The good news: The Theocratic SCOTUS majority has insured by its Shivoest ruling on PBA that a democrat will be elected president in 08.
Posted by TIKI AL at April 18, 2007 10:41 AMYOu know, that Blackberry outage....never in a million years would I even consider this having to do with kkKarl ..but with this administration, as we have learned nothing is ever a coincidence! Thinking of those issues with election computing outages that occurred conveeeeeniently in the middle of the night and then miraculously Bush pulls ahead after they are back up and running (the Ohio county lockdown etc). Repeat, nothing ever happens by coincidence when there is a pending damaging issue involving Rove in the works...nothing.
Posted by emal at April 18, 2007 10:42 AM"The good news: The Theocratic SCOTUS majority has insured by its Shivoest ruling on PBA that a democrat will be elected president in 08."
Good luck with that. About 70% of Americans oppose this procedure.
Posted by lordtyranus2 at April 18, 2007 10:47 AMTiki Al, that was my first thought too about the decision.
Posted by emal at April 18, 2007 10:47 AMDoes that include state funding of abortions? Because then they're getting involved, by paying for it.
I ceded my right to determine how exactly the goverment spends my tax dollars when I stepped into a voting booth and voted for people to represent me in the governing process.
Providing funding for medical proceedures deemed appropriate by medical professionals does not compell anyone to have an abortion. It does not involve me in the decision making process. The woman makes the choice to do so or not. Anti-abortionists seek to prevent a woman from making a free choice.
Posted by snark at April 18, 2007 10:48 AM"I ceded my right to determine how exactly the goverment spends my tax dollars when I stepped into a voting booth and voted for people to represent me in the governing process."
Fair enough. I hope you keep that attitude when it comes to war and military spending.
Posted by lordtyranus2 at April 18, 2007 10:56 AMBut 71% of Americans oppose the Shivo episode, and will see this theocratic ruling as a stepping stone to a complete ban.
And you hurt my feelings with your sarcasm.
Posted by TIKI AL at April 18, 2007 10:57 AMFair enough. I hope you keep that attitude when it comes to war and military spending.
Absolutely.
As you said, if you don't like the policies change the representation. I don't think you would find any commentary by me on this site that contradicts that. Of course that being said, nothing precludes me from voicing my opinion and expressing my opposition to the way my tax dollars are being spent in the hopes of persuading my representative to see things my way.
Posted by snark at April 18, 2007 11:01 AMWell it took 175 people being killed by the biggest bombing in Iraq to date for Moron O'Donnel after 3 days to finally mention the word Iraq.
That lasted 2 minutes and then it was back to Hokie Hell, 24-7.
Can't the corporate media cover more than 1 story at a time? I hope Kerry doesn't flub another joke, or they will be faced with an impossible choice.
Posted by TIKI AL at April 18, 2007 11:08 AM"But 71% of Americans oppose the Shivo episode, and will see this theocratic ruling as a stepping stone to a complete ban."
Well, that's kind of odd, because the courts don't have the power to ban anything.
All they can do is continue eviscerating Roe and return the debate to Congress.
Posted by lordtyranus2 at April 18, 2007 11:18 AMThe only thing I would ask your wife, scout, is why she didn’t leave you long ago. Or do you keep her in chains in the basement? That wouldn't surprise me at all. I truly can't believe a woman could put up with your misogyny.
Posted by tempus at April 18, 2007 11:28 AMWhy is it the men have to involve themselves in women's issues? Frankly, it is non of your business. Women will do what they want with their bodies whether you give your permission or not. It has always been that way and will continue to be that way. Abortions are not something new to women. We have been having them for centuries, and you are not going to stop it. All us mere women ask is for them to be legal and safe.
Scout, you are not necessarily a mental giant yourself. At lease I admit when I really don't know much about a subject. Your posts are not readable most of the time, and your rants are never clear in meaning. All you do well is insult.
Posted by Judith at April 18, 2007 11:45 AMthat's "at least"
Posted by Judith at April 18, 2007 11:46 AM"Well, that's kind of odd, because the courts don't have the power to ban anything."
They banned Gore from the White House.
Posted by TIKI AL at April 18, 2007 11:49 AM70% of Americans have no idea why late term abortions are needed. That is because the Pro-Lifers have done a great job of misinformation and propaganda on the subject.
In 1997, the lowest year in a decade of abortions, out of 2,184,758 abortions, only 14,217 were after the first trimester. This is not about trimesters, this is about banning abortions.
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[Editor: ignore=off]This is not about trimesters, this is about banning abortions.
Actually, Judith, this isn't even about trimesters. This is about forcing women to have babies as a penalty for fucking. That's why they're going after birth control next. People like scout can't stand the thought of women fucking without penalty - and this is pretty much the only way they can exert any kind of control over it. The only women they want fucking are their wives and daughters - preferably by force, 'cos that's they only way those limpdicks can get it up. By forcing the woman to carry to term, they are transferring their own shame onto the women. That's why they ignore Christ and embrace the old testament - they love them some rules that subjugate everyone they encounter, don't they?
It has nothing to do with "unborn babies" who they don't give a shit about once their born. That's only the cover story because "Women are under men in the 'genetic heirarchy'" won't win any support these days except amongst faux-religious lunatics like Robertson and scout. Pure and simple, they want the control over women that men in previous centuries enjoyed - it's so much easier than having to treat them as equals, since they don't believe that we are. Our mere presence is emasculating to these scared little boys. In a way, that makes us more powerful than them, because they can't control their low self-esteem and rage, and they can't control us.
Posted by iamcoyote at April 18, 2007 12:58 PM"70% of Americans have no idea why late term abortions are needed. That is because the Pro-Lifers have done a great job of misinformation and propaganda on the subject."
Oh right. Your side is superior to everyone else, yada yada yada.
If you're talking about 14000 abortions out of 2 million maybe you should stop whining instead of your slippery slope fallacy nonsense.
Posted by lordtyranus2 at April 18, 2007 01:31 PM"Why is it the men have to involve themselves in women's issues? Frankly, it is non of your business. Women will do what they want with their bodies whether you give your permission or not. It has always been that way and will continue to be that way. Abortions are not something new to women. We have been having them for centuries, and you are not going to stop it. All us mere women ask is for them to be legal and safe."
Why is it that abortion supporters need to always play the gender warfare act? Because its not like women from both parties supported the PBA act.
You want to know why Bush replaced Oconnor with a white male? Because NOW, the NAACP, and all the rest of the leftwinged minority groups lynch their own.
Posted by lordtyranus2 at April 18, 2007 01:40 PMIamcoyote, yes your right, it has always been about controlling women, although you won't find one of these people who will admit that fact.
The hysterical part of the story is that abortions have never been controlled, no matter how difficult they try to make them. In the 50's if you needed an abortion and were financially well off, you went to a doctor who did a D&C in the hospital. If you were middle class or poor, someone always had the name of someone who did abortions. These clowns think that banning abortion is the answer. What twitts.
"Why is it that abortion supporters need to always play the gender warfare act?"
Because you assh*les insist on sticking your collective noses into something that doesn't concern you.
Posted by Judith at April 18, 2007 02:54 PMFurthermore, not one woman on this earth needs to ask your permission to end her pregnancy.
Posted by Judith at April 18, 2007 02:58 PMhy, jst rd yr cmmnts, cyt nd Jd, sm nc wrtng, bt y r n rrr, f crs. dn't hv tm t rspnd, s wll gt bck ltr f rmmbr. Hv gd n, nd drnk lt's f kl d, bttr grb cpl tms, t:)
[Editor: ignore=off]I love judgemental people who tell me I'm wrong because I disagree with them. Spare me your thoughts.
Posted by Judith at April 18, 2007 10:28 PMI don't play games, scout. You are a seriously sick fucker. Get some help.
Posted by tempus at April 19, 2007 06:26 PM