LOL!!
This is damn funny and dead on. If she wins the nomination, it's gonna be fascinating to see what tack the campaign takes against the crap the Republican will be slinging. They'd be wise to read this post.
Posted by Jeff Dinelli at October 10, 2007 12:07 PMYeah, there was a lot of frat boyish back slapping and more yucks than Henny Youngman at a Dean Martin roast. Sick stuff.
But the highlight was Rudy trying to get in Dr. Paul's face again over 9/11 and getting smacked back down. Suck it, Rudy.
Obama and Edwards were never mentioned. I guess they really have proclaimed Hillary as the opponent to be threatened by.
Posted by MaskedVigilante at October 10, 2007 02:04 PMfrat boys at the AARP kegger
I laughed out loud. What a perfect turn of phrase, and what a clever background theme for counter-GOP messaging in the campaign.
Posted by biggerbox at October 10, 2007 02:17 PMObama and Durbin, aligned on Iraq, apart on Iran
by Jill Zuckman
When it comes to Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama is perfectly happy to point to the senior senator from Illinois as an example of someone who got it right when it mattered.
Sen. Dick Durbin, the assistant Democratic Leader, voted against authorizing force in Iraq back in October of 2002. Obama, then a little-known state senator, spoke out against the resolution – a point he has made in the presidential campaign to criticize Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) and argue that judgment trumps experience.
"If it had come to me in an up or down vote as it came, I think I would have agreed with our senior senator Dick Durbin and voted nay,'' Obama said at the time. Durbin, in turn, has praised Obama for speaking out on the issue back when the vote to authorize war was a popular one.
But in recent days, Obama has also criticized Clinton for voting in favor of a "sense of the Senate" resolution calling the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization. It was a vote that Obama missed altogether, but one that his campaign has used to criticize her for potentially expanding the Iraq war into Iran.
"There's nothing wrong with identifying the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization, but it is a problem when you start using Iran as a justification for troop structures in Iraq and providing language that could potentially lead to military action in Iran," Obama said Monday, according to the Associated Press.
And in an interview with ABC News, Obama said: "Her willingness to once again extend to the president the benefit of the doubt I think indicates that she hasn't fully learned some of the lessons that we saw back in 2002."
On this one, however, Obama parts ways with Durbin, one of his earliest and most ardent supporters, who voted for the resolution.
"If I thought there was any way it could be used as a pretense to launch an invasion of Iran I would have voted no,'' Durbin said in an interview.
In fact, Durbin initially criticized the language in the measure, prompting its author, Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut, to cut two paragraphs out entirely.
"I am opposed to military action in Iran," Durbin said, noting that it would require congressional approval. "To say we need to pressure the Iranians to change their course in the Middle East and I want to do it by nonmilitary means, that's what my vote was all about.''
Durbin said he also received assurances that the U.S. is not preparing to attack Iran from a source he respects, Defense Secretary Robert Gates: "He was as clear as could be that there are no plans for that to happen.''
Posted by mp at October 10, 2007 02:41 PMThose men may be of THE FRATERNITY, but they do not represent the legacy of their era. You need to be careful, Steve. My generation, the Nam generation, had to fight an entire century of tradition for change. Your generation has resisted nothing, other than with pathetic bleatings. My generation gave you the tools, and what have you done with them? You've likely put a moderate hawk in the driver's seat. My generation may now need the Depends, your generation are the pants pissers. Please don't diss us.
Posted by Julie at October 10, 2007 09:06 PMa picture is worth a thousand words..that picture succinctly defines the gop as any i have ever seen
Posted by dennis at October 11, 2007 03:42 AMmp: "Durbin said he also received assurances that the U.S. is not preparing to attack Iran from a source he respects, Defense Secretary Robert Gates: "He was as clear as could be that there are no plans for that to happen.''"
uh, Gates won't be deciding, that will be the Deciderer
sad that Durbin is so naive
Posted by Gay Veteran at October 11, 2007 12:33 PMWow, had coffee with a college-aged Edwards worker today, so I had to come back here to apologize to you, Steve. This young man from Arkansas is living in Iowa for the duration, it sounds like, working 80 hour weeks, with only two days off in over a month. It wouldn't matter who he worked for (well, except for Repubs), I would still be as impressed. I've been so discouraged by the lack of involvement by the younger generations who often can't even be bothered to vote in this time of scary politics, so I took it out on you, Steve. Sorry.
Posted by Julie at October 11, 2007 04:49 PMJulie, you owe me no apology. There are thousands of committed activists out there of all ages working for all the Democratic candidates that would make all of us proud.
Posted by Steve Soto at October 12, 2007 09:27 AM