TV is for recreation rooms in mental hospitals, correctional facilities and college student unions. Vast wasteland of Newton Minnow years before is even more waste of vastness. If citizens want their news like this, they deserve the government they have.
We have the Internet, for now. Down the road,when the Internet is taken away,the pamphleteer will return, or the town crier or the park soap box.
Stay away from CommonDreams.org. Bill Maher has an article on this supposed progressive web site.
Posted by Morose at November 23, 2007 08:51 AMb-b-but pants pissing peter says we have a LIBERAL media
Posted by Gay Veteran at November 23, 2007 09:02 AMAccording to a Harvard study published earlier this year; of the stories on the evening newscast from Feb. to May, 59% were Dem. positive where as only 11% were Rep. positive. I guess that's not good enough for ya Paradox. Not balanced enough, "there just isn't anything a Republican does that's positive", and "we're all saints under the Democratic tent." You don't want the truth, whatever that is, you want it flavored to your belief system.
This president offers and signs into law, federal support for embryonic stem cell research, first time for federal funding in this area, and yet that's not good enough for ya.
No, you don't want objective news, "all the news fit to print". You want it slanted towards your side and if it isn't that's criminal. Ayn Rand would be ashamed of you.
Do you really expect 'Open Left' would broadcast anything positive about this President Bush? This president is welcoming all of America's Noble prize winners to the WH on Monday. Yes, that means saint Al will be there with George shaking his hand and being congratulated for his accomplishment. Can Open Left place that info on their blog without any condemnations? I don't think so, never happen. It surely won't happen over here either. That's not objective, that's what Walter Cronkite practiced and to lesser degrees, Jennings, Rather, and Brokaw(sp) did too. News has evolved to be more friendly towards the liberal view point. I deal with it, seems its a shock to you whenever they come my way once in a while.
When Chris Matthews is having his way with Senator Miller of Georgia, y'all were joyous. Whenever he carries your water, you're happy. When he ask questions, pointed questions, now he's a shrill for my side. Nope, I don't want him, he's yours. Enjoy...
Posted by peter at November 23, 2007 09:29 AMIt seems to me that one of the popular blog stories in the fall out of Gore's eventual loss of the presidency, is that Chris Mathews was responsible for 18% of all negative stories on Gore in the media.
One of the visceral impacts media has on Democratic representatives is that they both see and experience themselves on television as the loathed minority. The most common guest on tv is still a white Republican male and most panel shows have more conservatives than liberals on. Flat out lies get more time than honest-to-got truth. It's got to be bizarre as all hell to be sitting on a panel with three other guests who are lying through their teeth, and not be allowed to tell the truth.
this is the thing, in our media age, truth has no intrinsic value And if truth has no intrinsic value, then there is no difference between lies and truth, and Fox News is fair and balanced.
Posted by lorelynn at November 23, 2007 10:15 AMRe peter's comment, there is confusion about 'liberal' media in that we so-called Liberals too often conflate liberal with 'a reasonable semblance of truth' (and giving a sh*t about others). It's not so much about equal airtime for bent opinions on whatever side. Sorry for the misunderstanding!
/snark/
the public knows things have gone disastrously wrong and wants the truth to solve problems.
I am not convinced that "the public" wants the truth. I know that some people are eager or anxious to know the truth, but I think that these people represent a small part of "the public."
The great mass of Americans only want relief from the anxieties of modern life. Truth, intractable and often at odds with long-held beliefs, tends to increase those anxieties.
People can only be lied to so many times
I am sure that this is not true. There is no limit to the credulity of human beings. For example, how long have people believed that there is an omnipotent, omniscient Ruler & Creator of the Universe who takes care of everyone and everything from the weather, to disease processes and field goal attempts?
the knowledge of what happened to Gore and Kerry is solidly out there
Again, I have to disagree. Solid and out there? Sure, just read Somerby. Widely known and understood? I don't think so. Consider that, after the War on Gore, the entire left blogosphere anticipated similar tactics in 2004. Then we all watched it unfold as predicted. First against Dean, then against Kerry.
I would be very interested to read the answers that 1500 randomly selected American adults would give to the following: list three reasons why Al Gore lost the 2000 election, and list three reasons why John Kerry lost the 2004 election.
I am willing to bet something significant that at least one-fourth would not be able to list three reasons.
Similarly, I would like to know there answers to this question: Other than the Scream, what do you know about Howard Dean?
The blogs have given a narrow band of Americans a deeper and more comprehensive understanding of American politics. But this is no match for the awesome power of the corporate press/media to control the flow of information.
Posted by James E. Powell at November 23, 2007 01:46 PMI agree most people are uninformed and apathetic and deserve the crappy conditions they find themselves trying to survive in.
Watching the corporate media over-cover the "Black Friday" sales more than makes the case of what their modern media role is.
I wonder if the large numbers of "people" who camped out in the cold to save $100 on a TV would do the same for a fair voting machine with a paper receipt.
Posted by TIKI AL at November 23, 2007 03:03 PM"... list three reasons why Al Gore lost the 2000 election, and list three reasons why John Kerry lost the 2004 election."
Three are not necessary: Al Gore lost the 2000 election because he did not win the majority of Electoral College votes.
Posted by Bagley at November 23, 2007 03:17 PMgod you're stone cold stoopid, pants pissing peter! The korporate media are all owned by huge korporations. But I guess they are all well known liberals.
Bad news in the media? why oh why does Reality have a liberal bias???
bagless bagley: "Al Gore lost the 2000 election because he did not win the majority of Electoral College votes." thanks to the ReThugs on the Supreme Court
Posted by gay veteran at November 24, 2007 11:05 AMAnd liberals own the corporations, direct the corporations, make money from the corporations.
Posted by peter at November 24, 2007 12:24 PM