Are you really this clueless?
Hillary gets responsibility for the health care debacle alone because that was the first big responsibility her husband Bill gave her. And after she screwed that up, she wasn't allowed to play a large role in anything. That was made perfectly clear in Sicko.
I do agree that Hillary would do be doing better if she wasn't the frontrunner, but I don't think that's going to change before Iowa.
Posted by Mike at November 26, 2007 11:49 PMSteve, a unified government, Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress. She just didn't make the case. She was the forerunner of this presidents and vice presidents stubbornness. Cheney learned from her/them how you can treat an opposition Congress. There were the very same "questionable" Zogby polls in 2004 and 2006. Many here liked them then, changing your tune now.
The "Deaning" of Hillary, is it happening? Are you going to face another disappointment next November?
Posted by peter at November 27, 2007 04:01 AMHow does one man, with no experience in comparison to others in his party whom are also candidates, who's thin resume is just two years in the Senate and seven in the Illinois state Senate, become the front runner in a race for the Presidency?
Obama has no legislative record to speak of, and his claim to fame is the keynote address at the Democratic convention in Boston. I know of another pResident with similar credentials.
The next election is probably the last chance we will have to turn this Country around, if at all possible. Seems to me we need experience over hipe.
Posted by Judith at November 27, 2007 04:42 AMThere is nothing 'New Politics' about Obama. He's same ole same ole. I wrote his campaign on this topic 10 days ago, centering my thrust on his inability to deal with GOP'er tricks (Novak, the Pledge of Allegiance etc) and his willingness to criticize his Democratic colleagues on cue from the GOP. Of course I did not get anything but 'auto answers'..same ole same ole and never ending Obama donation spam to my mail box, same ole same ole and wad of miscellaneous spam that clearly indicated my E mail addy went to his promo list and my letter to his junk basket.
What is new about all this?
I'm really worried that if Obama gets the nomination, he'll crash and burn in the general. He's too green and he hasn't been vetted at all so far. All the GOP has to do is talk about his lack of experience. I had high hopes for him, but was disappointed when he decided to run this year. It's too soon. Now he'll be a one-term senator who missed half his term because he was busy campaigning--kinda like Edwards.
Posted by CG at November 27, 2007 05:19 AMthe msm = corporate america..do not want the clintons back in the white house..they are moving the needle for obama..he will not win a national election...they don't want hillary..it's as plain as the nose on your face...
Posted by dennis at November 27, 2007 05:48 AMMike and Peter, just because Michael Moore says it was all Hillary's fault doesn't make it so. Anyone who wants to blame Hillary for congressional Democrats, the GOP, and Corporate America all opposing any chance at health care reform in 1993 is simply spinning an anti-Clinton narrative with a disregard for what actually happened. This is what Republicans do all the time, devoid of the facts, but Hillary's opponents are adopting those talking points as well.
Posted by Steve Soto at November 27, 2007 07:13 AM"And portray yourself as being ready to earn their vote, not because you are a Clinton but because even though you may not be this year’s new model car, you know the road well and can get home." ...Steve Soto
...And unlike the chimp and the "macho" candidates, if she does get lost SHE won't be afraid to ASK FOR DIRECTIONS.
Posted by TIKI AL at November 27, 2007 07:37 AMSteve, no offense, but this is a bit defeatist. Obama is a media darling, but media darlings usually lose. She can't do anything about the media. I think she can only soldier on, defend herself when attacked, and distinguish herself from the field including Obama, though if I were her, I wouldn't draw those distinctions just between herself and Obama. But she's not going to suddenly say, I'm losing. That would be sort of strange.
Posted by Masslib at November 27, 2007 07:47 AMActually, Michael Moore did nothing of the sort. Sicko is almost a love letter to her until after the '94 debacle when he assumes now she is bought off. Now not then. Ofcourse he's wrong now. But, he didn't criticize her for her work then. He went after Congress.
Posted by Masslib at November 27, 2007 07:50 AMhey there masslib. I wouldn't expect her to say she's losing but.. Soto's remarks about hyping the Zogby poll were interesting - are Hillary's people encouraging the hype, so that Obama finally gets the same scrutiny a frontrunner should get, which he hasn't to date.
Posted by daria g at November 27, 2007 09:55 AMI just decided, I'm voting for Obama.
Posted by Brian Bell at November 27, 2007 08:17 PMI just decided, I'm voting for Obama.
Kinda funny, BB. All this is pushing me toward Hillary's camp. ;-)
Posted by bartcopfan at November 28, 2007 08:47 AM