When there's no accountability, these powermongers just go for it. Why not? sez they. It doesn't work? Depends on your definition of "work" since the goal isn't necessarily so obvious.
You missed Minority Whip's Pelosi involvement in this story...
She knows more than she's saying...
Posted by peter at December 11, 2007 01:15 PMOur spy agencies have tortured at times. But this administration is alone in it's guilt.
'Waterboarding George is the only president to renounce the Geneva conventions.
john- well, the geneva conventions are "quaint"...
peter- did you notice the lack of sourcing on those articles? didn't think so.
sharon- agreed.
Posted by Turkana at December 11, 2007 01:33 PMI believe it's OK to torture, but only to find out the following:
1. Who talked Bush into invading Iraq?
2. Who outed Plame?
3. Who attended Cheney's energy meeting?
4. Where are the missing E-mails?
5. Etc. Etc. Etc.
Turkana, your last paragraph is most important, for that is exactly what these vile beings are counting on, and it is working.
Posted by Judith at December 11, 2007 04:11 PMNot that it matters much, but Arrianna Huff... seems to be buying it. Where are the denials from the Speakers people? But thats Ok, delude yourself and say she didn't know, that Daschle didn't know, that Judith's Minority Leader didn't know.
Posted by peter at December 12, 2007 03:43 AMWhen I was a boy, legal 'reasoning' like that witness thing was something that we would expect from the warped ideologues of the Soviet Union, and waterboarding and similar tortures were a sign that the North Vietnamese were barbarians.
Now we have clean-cut Americans on TV telling us that it is 'necessary', and a U.S. Senator comparing it to swimming.
I miss living in America. I wish I could move back.
Posted by biggerbox at December 12, 2007 10:07 AM"You missed Minority Whip's Pelosi involvement in this story..."
One difference between pants pissing peter and most of the rest of us is that we are willing to condemn those Democrats who approved of torture or who remained silent and did nothing. Why? Because, again unlike pants pissing peter, we place COUNTRY above party.
Posted by Gay Veteran at December 12, 2007 10:41 AM