come on all you bedwetting trolls...come out from your holes and defend your beloved leader the great fascist asshole chimp for the world of torture and paranoia he has engineered ...
Posted by headxray at January 12, 2008 02:36 PMGood catch on these articles and a good piece.
Of course the War on Terra has lamed and damaged us tremendously, and foolishly elevated bin ladin to absurd global power "Hitler" status, causing a ridiculous inversion of our real, enormous priorities (global warming, hopeless oil dependence, economic weakness and wage stagnation) beneath trumped-up "Islamo-fascism".
But don't forget that Bushco declaring this to be an indefinite "long war" permitted yet more excuses for permanent militarism (and hence increased "commander-in-chief" power) as well as provided an basis for elevating and expanding the powers of the execu-codpiece-in-chief in our constitutional system literally indefinitely, according to Cheney.
That's why the GWOT was declared and rhetorically intensified by Bushco---as a long-term "basis" for the constitutional perversions which Cheney dementedly imagines constitute our ACTUAL constitution.
Oh, it also allowed us a pretext to invade another country to "liberate" its oil, another little benefit to our industrial complex....so on the whole, the GWOT has been quite a valuable little "policy" for the lunatic "conservative" Right, I'd say. Now that the bill's comin' due, it might not turn out to have been so smart.
Posted by euzoius at January 12, 2008 03:32 PMHeadxray, don't rattle their cages.
Mary, how right you are. As a leader, you can bring out the best in people, or the worst in people. I have always believed that all attitudes begin at the top and filter down. Where Kennedy gave us pride and inspired us to believe we could make the world a better place, Bush has appealed to the darker side of human beings.
In the Third Reich, there were also those who planned and carried out sadistic techniques or torture. Those were the perverts, sadists, sociopaths, who no longer saw their victims as human. We are no different. Indeed Mary, the action of resorting to such tactics is invariably more primal and has nothing to do with so called interrogations. These are people who delight in the suffering of others.
While American and Iraqi men and women are dying or being wounded, and their lives being altered forever, and you joke about looking for weapons of mass destruction under the Oval Office furniture, then you cease to be human yourself.
This is interesting:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/12/164838/069/501/435794
What do you think?
Posted by Patrick at January 12, 2008 05:01 PMPatrick, not only interesting, but somewhat disturbing if Hillary becomes the nominee. The closer the election, the easier to commit voter fraud.
Posted by Judith at January 12, 2008 09:12 PMLooks to me that McCain does equally as well against either Clinton or Obama, no matter what the negatives are. In fact, with these numbers, Clinton's negatives don't seem to matter at all and the same goes for the lower negatives for Obama. This poll looks very much suspect with negatives having no impact at all.
Posted by peter at January 12, 2008 09:48 PMJudith and Patrick,
Those polls are indeed disturbing, but not because of the Menace of McCain. His strengths are just as great, in abstract, as Hillary's inevitability LONG before the general election. What those polls show is that the so-called mainstream pollsters are succeeding in making John Edwards into a non-person. Neither one even mentions the name of the candidate who, until he disappeared, outpolled BOTH the Hill Raisers and the Man OF Hope. What an odd occurrence!
Posted by DeminNewJ at January 13, 2008 04:17 AMDeminNewJ, how right you are. And I wonder why I feel like I am being manipulated. It seems as though the race has already been decided whether or not millions of us like it or not.
Posted by Judith at January 13, 2008 07:59 AMeuzoius is absolutely right, the entire point of the War on Terra and Iraq is for Dear Leader to grab more and more power
the really sad thing is that after 9/11 Bush COULD have become a great president, but lust for power prevented that
DeminNewJ, the korporate media decided long ago that they would not allow Edwards to have a chance at the nomination. Economic populism gives their bosses heartburn.
Posted by gay veteran at January 13, 2008 09:24 AMgay veteran, I'd say Bush had the opportunity to be a great president after 9/11, but he never had the potential. He has way too many character flaws to ever been able to rise to the occasion.
Posted by Mary at January 13, 2008 09:50 AMThat's a good point, GV. The dim-witted simpleton Bush does seem to have lusted for power after 9/11, lusted to be the "dictator" he "joked" about being after he was elected, remember?
He never served in an elected body in his life, did he? Always a creature of the "executive" branch of government, before that an (utterly failed) Bid'nessman/MBA, which is just more of the same crappy "lone, decisive, crisp decisionmaker" shit and nonsense.
So of course Bush had no interest in working with the Congress in partnership after 9/11 and taking the path that successful presidents take. Cheney's obvious longstanding hatred of the (Dem) Congress was the evil Iago whispering in the pinheaded Crawford Othello's ear: "Hate Congress, take control, wartime prezlidenter".
With "Bush's Brain" KKK Rover telling him the same thing, the result (a move toward authoritarian dictatorship) was a foregone conclusion, I guess.
Posted by euzoius at January 13, 2008 11:46 AMMary: I'd say Bush had the opportunity to be a great president after 9/11, but he never had the potential. He has way too many character flaws to ever been able to rise to the occasion.
yes, being a psychopath is a character flaw
euzoius: The dim-witted simpleton Bush does seem to have lusted for power after 9/11
The illegal wiretapping started BEFORE 9/11. It was a tyranny from day 1.
Posted by Gay Veteran at January 14, 2008 11:12 AM