That is probably the most ridiculously funny thing I have heard in a really long time. Thanks for the cheap shot at Hill , starting to like Obama more and more .
Posted by Mattress at January 14, 2008 09:22 AMI have no doubt it was deliberate, and no doubt they knew pricks Mattress would think it's hilarious. This is the "character" of the Obama campaign and its followers, and it's uglier than anything the SCLM can manufacture against Clinton. It's going to be really hard for me to vote for Obama if he's the nominee. It's obvious women's issues will not fare well in his admin, and may be set back even further than they already are.
Posted by iamcoyote at January 14, 2008 10:12 AM...pricks like Mattress, obviously...
Posted by iamcoyote at January 14, 2008 10:14 AMHillary is running a racist, Lee Attwater style campaign in the hope that Obama will overreact and alienate white voters. It'll probably work, but it still makes Hillary a racist.
Posted by pleaseme at January 14, 2008 10:15 AMWell, the rhetoric has gone over the top.
I think I'll be check out 'til the primaries are over.
Have fun flinging monkey poop at each other.
Posted by snark at January 14, 2008 10:21 AMI think I'll be check out 'til the primaries are over.
Yeah, I think you've got the right idea. Couple more weeks of this, and Romney's going to start looking good.
Posted by iamcoyote at January 14, 2008 10:26 AMI agree with snark. Obama better get control of the racist stuff or he's finished. Hillary is a lot of things but racist is not one of them. I wish she and Bill would stop making up excuses for her support of Bush's war.
Posted by JohnT at January 14, 2008 10:38 AMOr we could just make fun of the GOP!
Looks like Rudy's got the zombie vote!
Posted by iamcoyote at January 14, 2008 10:38 AMI think I'll be check out 'til the primaries are over.
Best news of the day, imo. (Suck it, snark.)
This is disgusting. If Obama didn't choose the song, he should've immediately put a stop to it and said, "No! Turn that shit off! I'm not running the campaign like that."
Posted by MaskedVigilante at January 14, 2008 10:42 AMSorry, sir...your post falls apart here:
"Hillary has personally taken swift action against anyone on her campaign making untoward comments..."
I have not seen Hillary in any way back off from Bob Johnson's odious remarks from yesterday. In fact, she was on the stage with him when he said it.
It's clear that this site has taken on an anti-Obama stance since things have heated up. That is clearly your right. Obama has also had some missteps and it's perfectly fine to mention those as well. But if you're going to call a tight game, call it on both sides, please. Thanks.
Posted by Mike P at January 14, 2008 10:43 AMNot surprised to see this lie published at the Hillary Coaster.
I was there.
The music that was playing when he took the stage was not Jay-Z.
It was Stevie Wonder's "Signed Sealed Delivered."
Video proof:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JJBTyL0nQr4
Posted by Geek, Esq. at January 14, 2008 10:45 AMSigned, sealed, delivered was played in NH where he didn't even win. It would have been arrogant if he had won. It was just a mistake that they forgot to change the song when he didn't win.
Posted by CG at January 14, 2008 11:09 AM"But as the campaigns creep on, the stakes grow higher, and candidates craving star power are reaching out to the varsity team. Not even a day after losing the New Hampshire primary to Sen. Clinton, Sen. Obama announced that he would be harnessing the marketing talents of Jay-Z and Kanye West to spread his social message.
"Obama was careful to issue a statement decrying the hip-hop artists' use of the N-word in their music - and their degradation of women. Still, a vote - especially from a young, celeb-loving constituency - is a vote," Joe Piazza wrote in the New York Daily News January 13, 2008.
Yes, indeedy. Better late than ... well, just too late.
Posted by B Merry at January 14, 2008 11:23 AMBoth campaigns better start playing "Ebony and Ivory" at their events or I'm joining snark at the titti bar.
Posted by TIKI AL at January 14, 2008 11:33 AMTIKI, save me a seat too
Posted by T2 at January 14, 2008 11:40 AMSlight correction: It was U2, not Stevie Wonder, that was playing when he entered.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rAXAemXaivY
Stevie Wonder played when he left.
But, if it's good enough for Page Six of the Murdoch-owned NY Post, it's good enough for this website (so long as it smears Hillary's opponents).
Posted by Geek, Esq. at January 14, 2008 11:52 AMWow Geekesque good for you. Debunking something that is incorrect (although I still wonder if the music might have been playing at any time during the victory party but the way it is written certainly seems incorrect) And your correction is appropriate and should be done no matter who the candidate.
However badmouthing this blog over at another popular blog by using the same cute ad hominem name you used here is just plain wrong and totally classless and in very poor taste. (appears to be a trait common among the Obama supporters that I've encountered these past few weeks...sigh) But one last question since when is it a crime for front page writers of a blog to write about the candidates and support them as they desire.
Yes and it is also appropriate for you here to respond in any manner that you did (maybe minus the name calling but whatever) But as I said it was a really a juvenile and petty thing to attack this blog over at someone else's blog. Way to unite people!
You Obama supporters really don't get it and don't care to...you're turning off people even though you at times make and have very valid points....you're making it harder to support your movement. But you don't want to hear that, No instead you'll just go play with your friends on more Obama friendly turf where your group think runs rampant. It's almost a mentality like if my candidate doesn't/isn't going to win then I'll be damned sure I'll tear the whole party apart in the process. I've said multiple times I'd support whomever wins the nomination...but wonder if you would...something tells me otherwise.
Who was the FIRST to introduce
SEX
RACE
DRUGS
YOUTHFUL INDISCRETION
and feigns tears for herself, but is dry-eyed for Kosovo, Darfur, Katrina, Indian Tsunami?
Atwater, Morris, and Rove play book all rolled into one. Shameless as it is shameful.
Compare and contrast the frequency of
"first woman president" -- Hilary
"first black president" -- no one
Sexism, racism, fearmongering, entitlement vis-a-via distaste for not excluding, rather than including. Pandering works. Willie Horton works. Tears of personal ambition work. Divisiveness works. Indeed, the Clintons originated divisiveness, why should they cease if they get the goods?
Posted by The Gay Species at January 14, 2008 12:14 PMJeff Dinelli - You're a liar.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/14/135113/083/591/433686
Truth may be stranger than fiction, but your attack is pure fiction.
Posted by Qwerty at January 14, 2008 12:14 PMThanks for bringing the Obama campaign's homophobia and misogyny to the forefront. They've been getting a pass on this for too long.
You can't point an accusing finger at others and nod and wink at the bigots that are useful to you.
I see Obama's supporters are screaming that it's all lies. Well, what else can they do with the cognitive dissonance when Mr. Hope & Change is revealed to be Mr. Same Old Same Old?
Posted by cc at January 14, 2008 12:26 PMWhy would you print as fact an unsourced item from the Murdoch-owned New York Post attacking any Democrat? I'm very disappointed in you.
Posted by Joel at January 14, 2008 12:33 PMYou know what I wish would happen?
I wish Hillary would stop trying to supress the votes of her fellow Democrats.
btw-this blog is on the Hillary payroll
Posted by green heron at January 14, 2008 12:40 PMGreen Heron, please immediately provide proof for your assertions, or find yourself banned from posting.
Posted by Steve Soto at January 14, 2008 01:09 PMDear Jeff- You might want to try an Ear Syringe, available at Walgreens and some warm water, now lean over your bathroom sink, fill the syringe with the water and squirt into your ears. That should unplug that nasty muck plugging your ears and keeping you from hearing right.
Posted by eyesonthestreet at January 14, 2008 01:10 PMRemember "Calgon take me away...", Steve rescue us, "you're our only hope." Wow, this is really something now. Now we know why Steve left us for six months.
Posted by peter at January 14, 2008 01:11 PMJeff, I know you're just repeating what AlterNet and Huffington Post are also repeating, which is what the NY Post published. And I know that you, Jeff are NOT intentionally lying, you're just commenting on something that was reported. (Come on, fellow Obama supporters, this is the LeftCoaster, one of our friendly neighborhood liberal sites, NOT Little Green Footballs or Free Republic. Believe it or not, at the end of the day, the LeftCoaster is on the same side of the aisle.)
However, Jeff and other LeftCoaster editorial staff, you folks need to correct this mistaken report on your Web site. Quite frankly, this -- playing Jay-Z's "99 Problems" at the Obama Iowa victory party -- did NOT happen, just as the link to YouTube clips show. The campaign played a bit of U2, not Jay-Z.
I can only imagine what the motivation of the NY Post, a paper belonging to noted Hillary financial supporter Rupert Murdoch, was in publishing this blatantly false story. But LeftCoaster needs to correct this. It really is NOT true. They played U2 when Obama entered the victory party in Iowa, not Jay-Z.
This won't stick to Obama, anyway, because it's just so silly to begin with. Let's face it, attempting to demonize a rap song is such the culturally "conservative" thing to do. Did anybody even bother to figure out what the song is actually saying? No, they did not. This sort of nonsense is designed to scare the stupidest among the culturally conservative. It's like, "Oh, NO! The black man listens to rap! He must be a gangster and want to rape our white women! Hide the women and children!" Seriously, that's a lot of what's being said here. Go read through some of the comments in this thread if you don't believe me about the undercurrents, the things left unsaid, in this "conversation" about this false report. To me, this smells like desperation from someone in the Clinton camp -- I don't mean anyone on this site since this comes from the NY Post. I think they ought to be worrying more about correcting Hillary's falling numbers in South Carolina and Nevada than putting silly lies about Obama out there
By the way, emal, and that fact-challenged idiot cc ought to pay attention, you're right, we don't "get it" and neither do you. Here's a story, reprinted, basically, on Left Coaster and guess what? It's a completely false story, a complete lie. Don't mince words about it, about how maybe they played it some other time of night, something for which there is not one iota of evidence. This story is false, period. And somehow, when Obama supporters read it and call it for the lie it is, it reveals Obama's and Obama's supporters' misogyny? Bullshit. You don't get it. When a lie is made up like this, call it for what it is, don't excuse it. Be intellectually honest.
Anyway, The Left Coaster and Jeff need to correct this false story ASAP. Unintentionally spreading a lie is still wrong, even when it is unintentional.
Posted by Brian Bell at January 14, 2008 01:14 PMSteve, you might check the IP, since I suspect green heron's been posting under several different names. In fact, it seems sockpuppetry is a bug, not a feature of Obama's support here.
Posted by iamcoyote at January 14, 2008 01:21 PMWow! Just, wow!
I am really enjoying the Democratic Primaries.
Posted by Bagley at January 14, 2008 01:33 PMActually, Steve Soto, maybe what you ought to do instead of bugging green heron is do something to help the credibility of your site, like correct this story. It's false. It is not true. It's been pretty well debunked by Geekesque and others over at Daily Kos as well as here in the comments thread. Look at the links to the YouTube clips. Read about Obama's standard playlist at that DKos diary by Geekesque, etc.
People like green heron are able to say bad things about Left Coaster, serious things which cast doubt on the credibility of your site, because your site is basically reprinting a lie from the NY Post, without correction by you or your editorial staff. Green heron is not hurting the credibility of your site, reprinting disproven lies, without correct, about candidates other than Hillary are hurting your site.
Posted by Brian Bell at January 14, 2008 01:52 PMWhoops, I meant:
Green heron is not hurting the credibility of your site.
Reprinting disproven lies -- without correction -- about candidates other than Hillary are hurting your site.
Posted by Brian Bell at January 14, 2008 01:54 PMBagley, if I were you -- given the lack of quality of the Republican candidates (Huckabee? Romney? Rudy? Chuck Norris? LOL!) -- I'd be enjoying the Democratic primaries, too.
Posted by Brian Bell at January 14, 2008 01:57 PMBrian, as usual what part of my saying that Debunking something that is incorrect and correcting it is appropriate and should be done no matter who the candidate, did you not understand? I agree it was wrong and Jeff should correct it.
And so I speculated about the song playing another time that nite...I also knew Obama was going to work with Jay-z and had said he'd had some of his music on his i-pod.
Anyway, I've been much more than level headed and fair in my many post and criticisms here than most of the Obama supporters such as yourself. So go ahead and take me to task if you feel you must and to make you feel better, but coming from you these days it's lost something for me.
And lastly, no one to date here or anywhere imo has adequately addressed his appearances with McClurkin.
Posted by emal at January 14, 2008 02:03 PMBrian Bell,
As I have posted before: Hillary will be the Democratic nominee, but what she has to do to become the nominee guarantees that she will lose in the general election.
The modern Democratic party is based on identity politics and now you have two competing identities. The Democratic ticket will get really interesting when Hillary has to decide who her VP will be...it will be really, really interesting.
"...given the lack of quality of the Republican candidates..."
And what quality, may I ask, does Hillary deliver? I hardly think that being publically humiliated by her husband (on an international level) is a "quality" that the voting public wants in a President.
Obama? Less than one-term in the Senate. I hardly think that inexperience is a "quality" that the voting public wants in a President.
Edwards? Well, he has nice hair. A nice "quality" for a President.
Kucinich? He has a good-looking wife. A good "quality" for a President.
Posted by Bagley at January 14, 2008 02:17 PMJeff, that qualifies as a correction? How intellectually dishonest. You can go see the YouTube clips yourself, the story is flat-out false. And the guy from the NY Post, what a turd. Since when is a comment or reply from anybody required to correct a demonstrably false story, one proven false by numerous video clips in numerous publicly available places? I'm terribly disappointed in LeftCoaster staff and founder over this. I thought you guys were better than this. I guess the message to take is the one that Obama's camp is putting out by ignoring the NY Post, as they should. That message: who gives a hoot about this?
Posted by Brian Bell at January 14, 2008 03:22 PMAnd, Bagley, for once, your analysis may be spot on, particularly about the identity politics, although you ought to note Obama has not played those politics.
Posted by Brian Bell at January 14, 2008 03:23 PMBaggy, you want to talk about inexperience? I don't think you want to go there.
Posted by at January 14, 2008 04:40 PM"Baggy, you want to talk about inexperience? I don't think you want to go there."
Brave words from someone who is anonymous.
Want to play? (Name required.)
Posted by Bagley at January 14, 2008 05:03 PMLet’s see The NY Post and Ben Smith publish a rumor they can’t find one person to corroborate. There's a diary up at Kos with video of Obama entering the only victory party he attended that night with a U2 song playing. We’re talking IA here, where 99.99% of Obama’s supporters are whiter than the snow in my front yard for God’s sake. This is laughable.
What's not so funny as at about the same time her minions were whispering this crap to the clowns at Murdoch's NY Post Page 6 gossip column Hillary had Bob Johnson who has made a cool billion exploiting his own people with really ugly and demeaning gangster rap on BET for years, who has succeeded in keeping any and all, let alone wholesome competition in his black broadcasting niche off cable, who took out full page ads and made speeches advocating abolishing the inheritance tax, ridiculing Obama for his admitted drug dabbling as a kid.
Classy! Hillary should be as proud of herself as she is of Bob Johnson. But not as proud as I’ll be to vote for Obama.
Posted by markg8 at January 14, 2008 05:50 PMWhen you consider how acceptable misogyny is, it's difficult to truly get others to condemn it. Misogyny is the only bigotry regularly confused with simply being rude, as in "disrespectful." This will only make people like him more.
What I don't understand is that if the Obama campaign was pissed about Cuomo using "shucks and jive" when referring to politics in general--and NOT Obama--then why use a rapper who regularly exploits racist stereotypes and slurs?
Posted by Nathan at January 14, 2008 05:54 PMI heard "Head Over Heels" by the Go-Gos at a MITT ROMNEY rally Sunday. Just thought I'd share...
I like that song.
Posted by lima beans at January 15, 2008 11:40 AMCheck the facts. I saw the event live. Stevie Wonder was playing, NOT JAYZ.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JJBTyL0nQr4
Posted by angryman at January 15, 2008 10:44 PMSee you cant trust them niggers they're always trying to denigrate our white women
Posted by tterrific at January 19, 2008 11:00 PM