Support Edwards.
Posted by Judith at January 14, 2008 02:00 PMYes, because Johnny is tough and has manly-man resolve.
Posted by cc at January 14, 2008 02:25 PMAnd really lovely hair.
Posted by RalphB at January 14, 2008 02:33 PM"I wanna go back to the politics of hope and being a uniter and taking the country in a different direction."
That's your best argument in favor of Obama yet!
Posted by Qwerty at January 14, 2008 02:49 PMIn the words of a very famous philosopher with multiple DUIs:
"Can't we all just get along?" (tears)
Posted by TIKI AL at January 14, 2008 03:13 PMWell then Jeff, if you're tired of this, maybe then you shouldn't be doing things like repeating falsehoods (see "Jay-Z and Barack Obama" posting and comments thread for details).
It's not just the candidates playing games, but also commentators not bothering to look closely at the facts themselves.
Obama's busy reaching across the aisle, as he promised he'd do. I fail to see any contradictions. Bringing new voters into the fold is what political parties usually want to do.
Posted by Brian Bell at January 14, 2008 03:30 PMCheck out this diary:
http://mydd.com/story/2008/1/14/175442/674
Apparently it's a national them.
Posted by MarkL at January 14, 2008 03:39 PMWhy am I surprised to see nothing hear about Obama praising the Clinton's commitment to civil rights and him trying to end the race spat? Doesn't fit the editorial stance I guess, so it's not worth mentioning:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Obama_putting_out_the_fire.html
Cue the whining about how it's too late for someone to take the high road in this argument, blah blah blah.
Posted by Mike P at January 14, 2008 04:08 PMMike,
I read about that---and Bill Clinton praised Obama as well.
Looks like the spat is being put to a halt.
MarkL, very interesting. So maybe this is actually a National campaign theme. How sad.
Posted by Judith at January 14, 2008 04:15 PMI just read what Mike and MarkL commented about over at TPM...good move by Obama and Clinton (didn't see his response). Let's not let the media dictate the damn narratives out there and put this baby to rest once and for all. Time for them to all go after the republican candidates.... like the straightshooting bomb, bomb-bomb-bomb-bomb-Iran McCain seems to be an easy target. Get the float of the of him and Bush hugging ready to follow him around and tie his support of Bush (and at times his flip flopping to actually acquiece and endorse Bush's policies) around his neck so tight it'll make the Lieberman kiss float days look like a picnic.
Posted by emal at January 14, 2008 04:21 PMAnd why again, are people upset about a Democratic candidate trying to appeal to Republicans and Independents? If our ideas (and I am not talking specifically about the ideas of any one candidate on the Democratic side, but the major agenda items that Democrats en total are supposed to stand for) can sway others to join the party, why is this bad? Expanding the Democractic party, making it more appealing to more Americans is a good thing.
Posted by Mike P at January 14, 2008 04:38 PMI glad Obama is wants to stop this stuff, assuming he is sincere. Unfortunately, once Pandora's box is open, the little beasties can be tough to chase down.
Posted by Horselover Fat at January 14, 2008 04:45 PMOn ABC's Blog--emphasis mine:
Former President Bill Clinton also offended some African Americans when, addressing Dartmouth College students, he referred to Obama's campaign as "the biggest fairy tale" he'd ever seen.
Did Obama feel dissed? He laughed and shook his head.
But, again, Obama looked past the racial controversy.
Instead, Obama directed his response to the dispute over whether opposition to the Iraq War was consistent. (Clinton has since reiterated that is what he meant when he invoked the "fairy tale" line.)
Good for Obama, but good grief can the media not get this right?? Bill didn't call Obama's campaign a fairy tale. He called Obama's claims that he will bring about change a fairy tale based on his Iraq war rhetoric in comparison to his Iraq war actions. Obama didn't "direct his response"--he responded to the exact issue Bill raised. What Bill meant?? It's what Bill said. Did this guy not hear the whole quote? Sheesh.
Posted by CG at January 14, 2008 05:40 PMActually, you are being objective about the Obama campaign but in a climate where any hint of not being overjoyed with him is treated as treason, it's easy to see why being objective is confused with bias.
I can't believe how bad this has gotten. As an Edwards supporter, I don't really have anyone I care for in the race, but one thing I loved about the NH primary is that it would allow us, as citizens, to enjoy a truly competitive primary that would strengthen both candidates. However, when you willfully distort comments from the Clintons to inflame racial tension and a press is all too happy to assist, the result does not strengthen the party, but fundamentally weakens it. The double standards are outrageous: Clinton gets personally blamed for any hint of a smear against Obama, while Axelrod can accuse Clinton of being a co-conspirator in the Bhutto assassination and nothing happens.
Mark P,
What's the point of expanding your party when your principles are no better, in effect, than the GOP? Lieberman was a Democrat and yet I never would've voted for that wretched man. The GOP employed the Southern Strategy, enjoying tremendous political success, but obviously it was at the expense of basic principles of justice and liberty.
Posted by Nathan at January 14, 2008 05:46 PMMark P, Obama's campaign did not say anything in those flyers about coming over to our side because of shared ideals.
It was an outright appeal to switch parties to vote against the evil Hillary, then switch right back. It was an open invitation for committed Repugs to game our primary, NOT an invitation to join us. Similar fliers were went out in Florida.
It stinks to high heaven, and Obama ought to apologize, not to Hillary, but to THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
Posted by WMCB at January 14, 2008 05:53 PMI'm sure Nevada citizens are aware of how their caucus works.
Is that sarcasm or naivete?
There is no chance that more than a handful of Nevadans know how their caucus works.
More important. Why are you in such high dudgeon over a run of the mill campaign thing?
Posted by James E. Powell at January 14, 2008 06:01 PMWill Obama disavow all knowledge -- of this site which his campaign in Florida has had up since April 2007?
Some people better archive this before it goes away.
Quoting from the Google cache "as retrieved on Nov 30, 2007 02:11:00 GMT"
By Obama Florida 2008
Published: April 24, 2007
....
That's why "Democrat for a Day" was launched this spring by ObamaFlorida2008. Using the official forms provided by all Supervisors of Elections offices, you may re-register as a Democrat for that one day -- when the primary is likely to be held -- on February 5, 2008. You must do so before the end of 2007, to make sure it is done 30 days before the primary.
But this is not about some "hard sell" to recruit voters to become permanent Democrats. Not at all. After the primary, you may re-register back to the
Republican or Libertarian parties, or revert to your previous status as an Independent! There will be plenty of time before the general election in November 2008.
....
But we're finding that up to 20 percent of Obama supporters are registered Republicans.
In fact, during the first couple of weeks in April, some 150 Republicans indeed became "Democrats for a Day." You might call them "Obamacrats!"
Here are tinyurls for the Google cache:
http://tinyurl.com/24pvlg
http://preview.tinyurl.com/24pvlg
Posted by 1950democrat at January 14, 2008 06:55 PMGo Edwards!
Posted by Bob In Pacifica at January 14, 2008 08:57 PMcc and Ralphie, this means you don't support Edwards because he looks too good? Or that you don't support him on the issues?
Posted by Bob In Pacifica at January 14, 2008 09:03 PMNathan and Emal, hammer meets nail.
Posted by Judith at January 14, 2008 10:47 PMRepublicans hate Hillary. Why not use them to beat her?
Posted by maavelous at January 15, 2008 03:35 AMJust wanted to point out, Taylor Marsh may be posting this as a blog. I tried to find a source that could link this directly to Obama. Didn't find anything. If you could post a source that actually links this to the Obama campaign, maybe I would care. Right now I don't. I think there is a higher chance that this is a group organized against Hillary more than a group organized for Obama. People have nutty ideas about who can win the general.
Posted by daniel at January 15, 2008 11:41 AM