The only reason they gave up is that the satellite that was in charge of the illegal evesdropping is out of control and coming down fast.
Run away! Run away!
Posted by TIKI AL at January 28, 2008 04:07 PMBush will use tonight's speech to start the "Dems won't give me what I want so they are soft on terror" meme and it will be all over the media and Press by tomorrow morning. It might be an opportune moment for either Hillary or Obama to call him on it in no uncertain language. What are the odds on that?
Posted by T2 at January 28, 2008 04:11 PMWhat happens to the pending lawsuits against the telecoms while this is going on? Are they moving forward?
I'll have to see if I can find how my senator voted this time. See if she changed her mind and decided NOT to support immunity. With all the versions and various votes, I find it hard to tell what was what, but I'll try to go look.
Posted by CG at January 28, 2008 04:15 PMOK, both of my senators voted the same way Clinton and Obama voted, so that's good.
Posted by CG at January 28, 2008 04:19 PMSalazar came through, too. I hope this marks a trend.
Posted by Flamethrower at January 28, 2008 05:16 PMnaturally I won't waste my time watching Bush's final SOTU, but I've read what he's expected to say on the economy and congressional spending and it goes like this: "I've created such a failed economy that I'm asking Congress for a multi-Billion dollar give-a-way to save it, but at the same time telling the Democratic Congress I'll veto any spending bill they send up." Same old Bush...full of it.
Posted by T2 at January 28, 2008 06:07 PMAs Greenwald explains, "FISA" does not need to be extended. That law, with all the protections for civil liberties and all the amendments designed to address mdern surveillance issues (and nab terrorists) remains in place to protect the Homeland fully. It's just Bush's anti-Constitutional amendments that expire. You should not make careless mistakes like this that enable Republicans to draw blood with their talking points.
Posted by urban legend at January 28, 2008 09:58 PMLet the damn thing expire, then write a reasoned bill that addresses whatever minor technological fixes are required, and leave it at that.
There was never much need to change the FISA laws to begin with, except for giving Rover and Cheney and their idiot love child Georgie cover to violate every law we have on the books or sheepskin parchment. How else could they get the dirt to blackmail Reid and Nancy and Rocky and Mikulski and what not coward Dems?
Posted by Duckman GR at January 28, 2008 10:30 PMThe failure to cover the FISA debate shows the complicity if the MSM in Repub rule----numerous senators are on the floor of the senate stating directly that Bush/Cheney are seeking to immunize themselves from illegal acts they undertook, seeking to ensure that the courts and people never find out what illegal acts the president suborned, and there's simply no real, sustained coverage.
One would think this qualifies as "news" even in our degenerate country. But no.
Posted by euzoius at January 29, 2008 06:59 AMCongratulations to Majority Leader Reid, Chairman Rockefeller, Senators Clinton and Obama for following real leaders like Senators Dodd and Feingold on this issue. Please keep up the good work. Thank you.
Posted by Pvt. Keepout at January 29, 2008 07:05 AM