Trying awful hard to divert the train wreck aren't you Tarkana? Anything to draw your people away from the edge. Keep trying, they both feel they're right. And the loser isn't going to be forgiving.
Posted by peter at February 8, 2008 01:52 PMJust came back from visiting my 74 year old neighbor lady. Had no intentions of talking politics; she makes great cookies which was the intent of my visit. She brought politics up and that she has been a Democrat all of her life I was a bit shocked when she said she did not like either of her choices and that she (her words) "kinda like that McCain fellow" and those in her circle of friends of that age feel the same.
You have a problem.
Posted by jj at February 8, 2008 02:01 PMgee, jj, my 90 year old just voted neigbhor lady voted happilly for Hillary. And both my 75 year old parents voted happilly for Obama. Who has a problem?
aimai
Posted by aimai at February 8, 2008 02:10 PMjj,
Like your methodology. Maybe you can get a job with Zogby?
Posted by snark at February 8, 2008 02:14 PMhi peter! hi jj! i look forward to hearing more from both of you, as the campaign season progresses! fun stuff!
Posted by Turkana at February 8, 2008 02:14 PMnew poll results out regarding the state of the Bush Economy. Most people, apparently, think the best thing we could do for our economy is to Get Out of Iraq. They are, of course, correct. Let John McOld run on the 100 Year Iraq War and watch him get his ass kicked. How long will we have to wait for him to start hedging on the war? I'm guessing as soon as he's got the delegates to nominate, he'll start moving the goalposts.
Posted by T2 at February 8, 2008 02:17 PMSure is, I've got my popcorn ready to watch the debate a week Democrats seem to want. Great theater, we had Oscar a few weeks ago, maybe Tony's or Emmy's are next.
Posted by peter at February 8, 2008 02:19 PMGo ahead and take your chances. You already know about your problem. Keep a stiff upper lip though, and don't let on !
Posted by jj at February 8, 2008 02:25 PMgee, jj, my 90 year old just voted neigbhor lady voted happilly
What the hell is that?
Posted by at February 8, 2008 02:26 PMjj sounds like he read The Rude Pundit today!
Posted by Seven of Six at February 8, 2008 02:26 PMTurkana this is huge. He reaches up to 15 million people on his radio program and through mailers.
Throw in the "ditto heads" and we will have this election in the bag!
Posted by Seven of Six at February 8, 2008 02:34 PMGo Mullah Dobson---now that's a man of principle, by God!
Get that pledge internetized! Viral!
Grrreat stuff. Perhaps Preacher Huckabee can still pull it out!
Who's train wreck will be bigger?
Wouldn't it be something if all the illegal wiretapping that you both so approve of was turned onto YOUR phones and computers, jj and peter? Nothing like a taste of your own conservative medicine, eh?
Posted by euzoius at February 8, 2008 02:50 PMIs this godbot mini-Hindenburg tax-exempt? If so why so?
Posted by TIKI AL at February 8, 2008 03:02 PMI get my cookies from younger ladies. None of them kinda like McCain. The Dems could very well have problems, but they would be in spite of The Hundred Years' Warlord.
Posted by Bob In Pacifica at February 8, 2008 03:07 PMBomb, bomb, bomb Iran
100 Year War in Iraq
Yep, I think you guys are going to be very disappointed come November jj, peter, baggy, etc. Just think guys, eight years of Democrats in control. Of course, you all will develop a conscious suddenly and become great defenders of the Constitution when the Democrats are in control.
Posted by Judith at February 8, 2008 03:32 PM"hi peter! hi jj! i look forward to hearing more from both of you, as the campaign season progresses! fun stuff!"
What about me? :(
Posted by Bagley at February 8, 2008 03:55 PMjj sounds like he read The Rude Pundit today!
Posted by Seven of Six at February 8, 2008 02:26 PM
Well have him read English 101.
Posted by jj at February 8, 2008 04:23 PMI get my cookies from younger ladies.
I'll bet you do. Pervert.
Wouldn't it be something if all the illegal wiretapping that you both so approve of was turned onto YOUR phones and computers, jj and peter? Nothing like a taste of your own conservative medicine, eh?
Posted by euzoius at February 8, 2008 02:50 PM
Would not concern me in the least. How 'bout you?
Posted by jj at February 8, 2008 04:27 PMWell have him read English 101.
Bwaaa... here's The Rude Pundit bonehead:
By the way, Mr. Papa is a Professor of Drama and Creative Writing at the City University of New York/College of Staten Island. He has taught drama in Denmark, developed work at the Steppenwolf Theatre in Chicago, and directed outdoor Shakespeare in Tennessee.
Posted by Seven of Six at February 8, 2008 05:59 PM
"would not concern me in the least...."
Spoken like a true craven bedwetter. Thank god we didn't have boot-licking, authority-worshipping worms like jj at the constitutional convention, eh?
Posted by euzoius at February 8, 2008 06:10 PMwhat the hell are value voters? they get the best value for their buck? they screw only their wives? they secretly play around with their daughters? they go to church 15 times a week? they do not swear, take the lord's name in vain? they let god guide them/direct their life and blame god when it does not go right? what are value voters?
Posted by mamameow at February 8, 2008 06:40 PMwhat are value voters?
Think Ted Haggard.
they secretly play around with their daughters?
Actually they take them to dances at age 15 and make them take a pledge of celibacy.
Re: Problem.
OK, let's talk about the "problem." Sooner or later, the issue of a serious black, hispanic or female candidate was going to come up. This is the year to face the issue. McCain has promised to keep the Iraq war going indefinately.
I know a lot of people, who are uncomfortable with both the war and social change. They're going to have to make a choice vote their hopes, vote their fear or sit it out. With the Republican party in the shape it is in, they'll never be a better year to address this "problem" than this one.
herbal tee, You talking to me?
Posted by Seven of Six at February 8, 2008 07:45 PMwell it's the triumvirate of bed wetters and asskissers..jack off jj, bagless boy, and the alltime asshole pants pissin petie all in one convenient spot...go lay down you bedwetting asswipes ...
Posted by headxray at February 8, 2008 08:26 PM"herbal tee, You talking to me?"
Actually, I somehow missed the Rude pundit link you provided. But that in general is what I'm talking about. I've come to the conculsion htat using code words when talking about race and gender is just a load of PC crap that, considering all of the big problems Bu$hco is leaving us, we can ill afford anymore. We've been living in "pretend land' scince the Reagan years.You really can't move a society forward by pretending that private markets can solve any problem. You end up with the plutocratic wasteland the corporatists, aided and abbetted by the social conservatives, that America has largely become this decade.
They want their choice of VP...so they are beginning their lobbying effort to get it...What if McCain gets sick in office? Then they get their VP. The oil backed Republican operatives who wanted Romney are already gaming this...Bush is on board...they have something up their sleeve. And if they can ram Obama through the Democratic party...they'll win.
Karl Rove...is planning his comeback. He lives for that...he lives for the payback.
Posted by lily15 at February 8, 2008 09:54 PMI solemnly pledge not to vote for anyone that James Dobson recommends...primarily because I value our nation, our democracy, our hard-won freedoms...and because I'm certain that Jesus Christ was a liberal...who would have had nothing at all to do with hardcore orthodox wingnuts like James Dobson...but would have instead told them "Get thee behind me Satan"...which is why the hardcore orthodox wingnut "values voters" of Jesus' day had him executed.
Posted by The Oracle at February 9, 2008 02:49 AMI'll sign that pledge Oracle!
You're onto something....but instead of "values voters" can we be "rational voters" or "enlightened voters" or somesuch moniker?
Posted by euzoius at February 9, 2008 05:56 AMBy the way, Mr. Papa is a Professor of Drama and Creative Writing at the City University of New York/College of Staten Island. He has taught drama in Denmark, developed work at the Steppenwolf Theatre in Chicago, and directed outdoor Shakespeare in Tennessee.
Posted by Seven of Six at February 8, 2008 05:59 PM
Well that is the problem right there. He needs to get out into the real world occasionally, with real people and less make-believe. As a matter of fact, that would not hurt any of you. Give it a try!
Posted by jj at February 9, 2008 08:24 AMHe needs to get out into the real world occasionally, with real people and less make-believe. As a matter of fact, that would not hurt any of you. Give it a try!
I'm at the Veterans Hospital once a week... does that count? And most VA patients are fed up with your pResident jj.
Not really. There are a lot of people at VA,s, my family included as well as other hospitals. Most don't spew the anti US venom that is so obvious here.
So, No, that doe not count. Try Again
Posted by jj at February 9, 2008 12:27 PMjj,
i understand that you don't understand that in a democracy an administration is not the same as the nation itself. criticizing bush is not criticizing america. it is, in fact, defending america.
Posted by Turkana at February 9, 2008 01:41 PMWhat you do not understand (actually you do-it just does not make any difference to you) is that when you hope for a military defeat, and get giddy when our troops suffer a setback, that is a much different than criticizing an administration.
Posted by jj at February 9, 2008 05:19 PM
No jj, we want our troops to come home to their loved ones and all their dreams. And we want their leaders in Washington to face criminal charges. You are much in the dark.
Posted by Copeland at February 9, 2008 08:07 PMIs it legal to run a Jesus Party (tm)???
Would Dobson have to give up his tax-free church if he ran a Jesus Party (tm)?
Posted by Moon at February 10, 2008 12:05 PMConservatives are beginning to amaze me in their inability to see what's really at stake here. This election is about more than McCain and his inability to follow conservative principals.
How is handing the whole country over to far left liberals a suitable alternative to McCain?
There is a serious difference between McCain and a purebread liberal who is bent on destroying ALL conservative values permanantly.
Today’s liberal is not like the Bill Clinton’s Presidency. It’s moved radically left... Clinton is now considered a moderated, and loosing it’s power because it’s not radically liberal enough.
The Democratic candidate that is surging now, Obama, is bottom of the barrel liberal. He is about to take power, unless conservatives stop fighting and get serious.
This would give liberals what they will treat as a clear sign from America that is it ready to move sharply to the left. Not slightly to the left.
Cherry picking our candidate is exactly what got us INTO this mess, and if conservatives aren’t careful, they will allow our country spiral out of control.
There is no such thing as a quick recovery from 4 years of radical liberalism unchecked. We may be facing what will take years and years of damage to undo. What’s more, there’s no guarantee that it WILL be undone. Have conservatives completely forgotten Roe v. Wade and other extremely important issues?
Questioning McCain was right and highly useful for a time and a season. Many of us wish we had acted sooner to support Romney or Huck.... But staying home on election day allows liberals a pass to capture all THREE branches of Government. Our kids deserve better out of us.
I'm not asking anyone to sacrifice their own belief or convictions, but we have a serious problem here that requires that we do everything we can to minimize the damage this election can cause to our society.
I’d rather have 50% of McCains ear, than 0% of a liberals ear.
Give it some thought, friends.
Danny Vice
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