Maybe, just maybe Bushco wants dissention throughout the world.....makes the threat of terra seem more plausible when the whole world is upside down. Just wondering!!
Posted by Goyo at February 19, 2008 03:29 PM"....when the NATO military alliance bombed Yugoslavia to force then-President Slobodan Milosevic to withdraw his forces from the province of 2 million."
Did this action include the US?
...googling...googling...gooling...
It did!
By what legal authority: when did Serbia attack the US?
...and we still have troops in the Balkans?
A quagmire, I tell you! A quagmire!
P.S. Just what Europe needs: a Muslim state in the heart of the Balkans. Europe is lost.
Posted by Bagley at February 19, 2008 04:49 PMbagley,
yeah- we should apologize for having stopped genocide in the balkans.
Posted by Turkana at February 19, 2008 04:54 PMjay,
musharraf seized power in 1999. without our help. and bush indicated it was okay.
Posted by Turkana at February 19, 2008 05:32 PM"...we should apologize for having stopped genocide in the balkans."
I am afraid that argument does not work, Turkana.
What about the "marsh Arabs" and the others Saddam murdered?
A little consistency would be a good thing.
P.S. Be careful how (?) you answer...
Posted by Bagley at February 19, 2008 05:33 PMA little consistency would be a good thing.
I'd recommend more fiber in your diet.
Posted by snark at February 19, 2008 05:55 PMsnark,
Care to answer the question as it relates to "stopping genocide": what about the "marsh Arabs" and the others Saddam murdered?
I suppose not.
Posted by Bagley at February 19, 2008 06:10 PMbagley,
i know this is hard for you to understand, but there was no ongoing genocide in iraq, when bush invaded. saddam was contained. but gassing and genocide and other such fun things did, indeed, happen- when reagan and bush were president, and saddam was, for a while, even our friend.
Posted by Turkana at February 19, 2008 06:14 PM"... no ongoing genocide in iraq..."
Huh? (I specifically cited the marsh Arabs.)
"...when reagan and bush were president..."
And Clinton.
"...and saddam was, for a while, even our friend."
Weak, Turkana. Very weak.
P.S. If you continue your line of reasoning...be careful....strike one...
Realpolitik.
Posted by Bagley at February 19, 2008 06:36 PMA little consistency would be a good thing.
Damn, bags. If you are saying genocide is bad and should be stopped then you and I agree whole heartedly. If you are using the Marsh Arabs as the reasoning behind our presence in Iraq, that's well down on the list of top reasons for our presence. WMDs was number 1. Then we quickly went through Saddam conspired with terrorists, then Saddam was just a bad guy, then we were bringing them democracy, ad infinitum to the surge. Now it is preventing genocide. Go figure. And we aren't even stopping that genocide.
Posted by phidipides at February 19, 2008 08:33 PMphidipides (et al),
Nice try.
Ok, I will answer the question for you.
In accordance with Leftist thinking, US military intervention in geographic areas where the US has a significant strategic interest and other involved parties have a limited ability to intervene (Iraq), well, this intervention is a bad thing.
In accordance with Leftist thinking, US military intervention in geographic areas where the US has a significant strategic interest and other involved parties have a limited ability to intervene (the Balkans), well, this intervention is a good thing.
(Hypocrisy alert.)
In accordance with Leftist thinking, US military non-intervention in geographic areas where the US has no significant strategic interest and other interested parties have no strategic interest is an opportunity to pay lip-service to the US failure to undertake military intervention (e.g. Rawanda).
It is part and parcel of Leftist ideology that the US is evil when US foreign policy looks to US interests first.
Part and parcel of the Leftist wish for global government: a global, transnational authority. (What was it Senator John Kerry said..."global test.")
(By-the-way, I am still waiting for one of you Leftist to provide the website/address/telephone number of that singular global legal authority that determined the Iraq war to be "illegal." And no, the UN does not count.)
Part and parcel to Leftist hypocrisy without acknowledgement of said hypocrisy: (re) US involment in Iraq is imperial so we (the Leftist community) will overlook and by-pass the evil that was Saddam. (And for those of you Leftists that want to cite our suport of Saddam during the Iran-Iraq war, please see my previous post where I use the word "Realpolitik," also Iran's seizure of the US Embassy, and then consider your hypocrisy once again.)
What Leftist philosophy reduces to is a lack of intellectual honesty, a wilful ignorance, and a fundamental lacking of historical perspective.
Hello, mirror, you Leftist; Mr. Dorian Gray.
P.s. The sound you hear is a couple of dozen Leftists googling "Dorian Gray." So, may I add to the previous list: Leftists are an uneducated crowd.
Thanks to TLC....
...well, you know the drill.
Posted by Bagley at February 19, 2008 08:48 PM