"...one can only hope that the Bush Administration doesn't do too much damage, between now and next year...."
sigh, I am confident that Dear Leader still has one more fuck-up left in him
Posted by gay veteran at February 29, 2008 06:30 AMThey must have finally run out of 1953 Chevy parts.
Posted by TIKI AL at February 29, 2008 08:36 AMDear All,
I seem to recall a debate in Ohio wherein Sen. Clinton talked about "Fears vs Hope" with regard to talking to our enemies. She talked about the vast amount of preparation(H) needed before talking to our enemies and that Sen. Obama was nieve. Cuba?...Hmmm? Red Phone?...Hmmm?
Then I think about the comments in the previous LC article about Obama "not reading the blogs" but Sen. Clinton reading the blogs. The author, I guess, was saying, in his very personal logic, that reading the blogs means Sen. Clinton is in touch with the netroots.
I know this. Foreign governments monitor our press and that includes our blogs. They see the "Red Phone" campaign sabre rattling ad by a proported progressive who will do anything or say anything to win...an election.
Someone please tell me who stood up with Sen. Dodd and voted against the TelComm Immunity Bill?
Who was AWOL? Someone tell me who has made "net neutrality" an active part of their campaign?
I told Steve Soto about this issue many months ago. He figured it out...the rest of you...not so much..!!
I think being realistic about a scorched earth policy WITHIN the Democratic Party will lead us to 4 years of McBush. Get a clue, or STFU.
Perhaps we should just give the Clintons their DLC ball back, and just go back home...to the 50 STATE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. The quicker, the better.
One World,
Domino49
PS.
When did it become "ok" for progressives, to become that which we detest?
Posted by Domino49 at February 29, 2008 03:05 PMdomino,
she said she was open to diplomatic engagement with cuba, just no presidential face-to-face unless there had been tangible progress.
Posted by Turkana at February 29, 2008 03:12 PMway too late....Cuba has won the fight...a long time ago.
We can count on the US to do the typical thing..
Turk,
I believe that the Cuban Revolution was far better outcome for Cuba than the mafia running Cuba. That was the pre-Castro reality of Cuba. I believe that hotels run by Nixon and Be Be Rebozo along with prostitution and gambling were economic slavery imposed by the Batista Junta, backed by the Mafia and the US government, were far worse than not having parts for a 57 Chevy.
But, that's the truth..and you SHOULD be old enough to KNOW that before you start towing the SOS/BS for the Clinton's and McCain's of the world.
I believe if we had been honest and open with Castro in the 50's and 60's, we wouldn't be in the fix we now face and have faced for 50 frackin' years of the SOS. Is anybody home here at TLC over 12 years old?
There never would have been a Cuban Missile Crisis if Castro had been dealt with by "overwhelming" diplomacy "smart enough" to offer "face-saving" alternatives for BOTH sides.
Don't you get tired of having THE MOST POWERFUL MILITARY ON THE PLANET and having it being run as SECURITY GUARDS for CORPORATE AMERICA and PAID FOR BY AVERAGE JOE? How's that going to change with the Clinton's back in the White House selling favors to corporate scum for a night in the Lincoln Bedroom?
I am not a Communist, but, I don't support Free Market "SLAVERS" either. How about you? Do you really think that the Clintons, considering their RECORD of triangulation on issues that matter "beyond ballot box promises", are really going to upset the status quo?
PLEEZZZZZZZZZZ...They want to be the Kennedy's for cryin' out loud. it's pathalogical with them.
If it looks like a duck and panders to illogic, pettiness, victimhood and vengence, just like your big sister when she rats you out, in tears, to your parents...Dude, WTF? Clinton and her "white upper-middle class" female supporters are telling us at every stop that it's about THEM, not US, as in the US of A. At least they are honest and open about something. Are you DEAF?
Help me out with this one. When polls are used to indicate female support for Sen. Clinton and Black support for Obama, where does that leave Black women? How are they counted? As Female? As Black? Pollster Voodoo? WTF? Exactly who is watching the watcher?
It leaves Black Women exactly where they have been. On the outside of the "White Middle-Class" Womens Movement and 70% unmarried, while the Clinton's "enlightened" drug policy was jailing Black Men for 3-strikes by proposing and enacting the ABSURD and UNCONSTITUTIONAL crack vs powder cocaine legislation and building our current PRISON INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX (1 in 99 in jail?) for jobs in RURAL AMERICA. Pandering? Triangulation? Boom-Times? or...BS? Hmmm? Exactly how's that working out..for AMERICA..!!
We currently have a unique opportunity to actually "do something" about the issues of the day. Giving the Clintons a 2nd chance to clean up jizz stains around the White House while the progressive agenda get's shelved...AGAIN... due to MORE INCONVENIENT TRUTHS about their LACK OF CHARACTER, is not my idea of progress.
Their daughter works for a HEDGE FUND for cryin out loud. Talk about IN YOUR FACE? But, according to Sen. Clinton.."Lobbyists, are people too"
Dude, WTF do thay have to tell you that you can't hear?
It's quite clear by their "PERSONAL QUEST FOR POWER, BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY" that the Clintons are not the answer to anything except destroying the DEMOCRATIC PARTY...for PERSONAL GAIN.
Their motto: The Clintons, or ELSE..!!
One World,
Domino49
PS.
Obama makes McCain look like the confused, conflicted mumble-mouth, passive-aggressive sell-out that he is.
* McCain ain't Regan.
* The Clinton's ain't the Kennedy's. Although they certainly want to be, at any cost...to you and I, and by any means necessary.
* But Obama, "IS" the ANSWER...
Posted by Domino49 at March 1, 2008 04:52 AMdomino,
comparing clinton and mccain makes you unworthy of debating. and just because batista was horrible- which he was- does not excuse castro's repressions. this may, indeed, be a unique opportunity, but if you don't think clinton would handle it as well as obama, you're not paying attention.
Posted by Turkana at March 1, 2008 06:22 AM