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Thanks Senators Clinton and Obama for fighting with us on this! You've been the best!

What really warms my heart is the faith y'all inspire in our fighters. Oh yeah, when the general comes around I can can count on them being there with us. Faith and confidence, now what would we do without it?

Posted by paradox at March 4, 2008 05:02 AM

and neither one of them ever says anything about investigating bush's crimes, after he leaves office. i'll vote for either one of them, in november, because the alternative is unthinkable, but the shrill hysteria of some of their supporters is incomprehensible.

Posted by Turkana at March 4, 2008 05:14 AM

Where's the leadership? Either candidate that is willing to take this head on would earn some great respect from me. (this issue is why Chris Dodd was my first choice). Either candidate willing to make this a big campaign issue and willing to expose just what this really means would do well by many people. I won't hold my breath though. I think you're being too kind with your word choice here by saying Democrats are letting Bush get away with this...no the Democratic Leadership, the Democratic candidates (that means both who are too chicken to take some leadership on this), and those Bushshit Dog Dems are enabling it. They are all are just as guilty and culpable as Bush in this whole affair.

Posted by emal at March 4, 2008 05:42 AM

You know, you both are right that the Dem candidates have been essentially AWOL and inert on this, but let's remember who is really to blame here: the worthless leadership of the two Dem houses of Congress.

Thank you for making clear what this legislation is: a presidential crimes cover up act. And I doubt there will be any "exposure" by a future admin because once these lawsuits are dismissed all the evidence of what Bushco did will be destroyed and the records wiped clean.

So we'll never know what happened and never have the courts rule of the legality of the executive's surveillance actions. And this is because of Dem cowardice or complicity that they don't want exposed, I don't know which.

I do know that they made no attempt to characterize this as a presidential crimes cover-up act, made no attempt to counter the lawbreaking fear-based Repub spin whatever---did anyone see ANY counterarguments?

I'm so disgusted with this that I can't stand thinking about it anymore. They really do see the Dem base as dirty fucking hippies and it's hard to generate much enthusiasm for them as a party. What fucking worthless knuckeheads. Endless (bad) calculation, very little principle.

Posted by euzoius at March 4, 2008 05:51 AM

The Unitary pResident will continue to do as he pleases, no matter how many crimes have been committed. We can't even get the AG to uphold the law. *shakes head in disgust*

Posted by Seven of Six at March 4, 2008 08:24 AM

Did you notice how quickly Reyes caved after his tough letter to Bush. Someone speculated that the defense contractors around Fort Bliss gave him a reality check.

Posted by JohnT at March 4, 2008 09:55 AM

"This is about protecting Bush from accountability. For spying on the American people. For no reason, and in violation of a little thing called the Fourth Amendment. And it appears that the Democratic Congress will let him get away with it."

and that is precisely why I am no longer a Democrat and why the Democratic Party will not get another penny from me

Posted by gay veteran at March 4, 2008 01:44 PM