The story's a long way from over. Prosecutors don't have the choice to use their powers politically. If we find out they did, they should be disbarred.
Further investigation is necessary, cause all roads lead to Bush.
Posted by robolc at March 14, 2008 03:47 PMThat's the issue.
How many fishing expeditions have they gone on and come up empty?
It's like the old saying, "If you don't have anything to hide you shouldn't be worried. But that's not what our Constitution guarantees.
Posted by snark at March 14, 2008 04:45 PMLook!
Up above!
Black helicopters!
Posted by Bagley at March 14, 2008 04:46 PMbagley,
putting your "intellect" up against those of horton and paulsen would, indeed, be amusing.
Posted by Turkana at March 14, 2008 05:30 PMTurkana,
Nah, I am dis-inclined to take advantage of the mentally-challenged....
..except for (on) this forum, of course.
Posted by Bagley at March 14, 2008 05:50 PMand out of the primordial ooze comes bag boy the criminal party's foremost apologist ...still supporting and excusing fascist criminals eh,scum bag?
Posted by headxray at March 14, 2008 05:56 PMTurkana, bagless has claimed Jack Balkin was "mentally-challenged"!
Posted by Seven of Six at March 14, 2008 05:56 PM7o6,
and horton's a prof at columbia law school. and paulsen's a constitutional law prof at u of minnesota. i hadn't known bagley was such a legend in his own boggled mind.
Posted by Turkana at March 14, 2008 06:13 PMSeven of Six,
I do hope that Turkana does not need your help in determining the meaning of my words.
headxray,
At least you are safe....not out in public, that is...
P.S. I am watching Obama try to dig himself out of the hole his Pastor excavated: stick a fork in him. Obama is done.
Regards,
Bagley
Posted by Bagley at March 14, 2008 06:39 PMheadxray,
At least you are safe....not out in public, that is...Posted by Bagley
typical of someone ignorant enough to support fascist criminals, bag boy...your best apparently...you grow more pathetic each day...time for bag boy to go lay down..try not to wet your bed tonight baggy..
"baggy"
OMG, did you come up with that on your own. LOL! So funny.
You crack me up!
Posted by Bagley at March 14, 2008 06:51 PMWow! This is some big 'Financial Crime’ investigation! Spitzer vs. Halliburton, Blackwater, KBR, Iraq, Katrina and Homeland InSecurity? Banks investing in billions of subprimes without proper reserves. What a laugh his ‘financial crime’ is.
Should he have quit? Why? The GOP guys -Vetter and Craig- are still ‘representing’ their constitutes in the Senate last I checked. I do not see anyone investigating who they paid for sex. In July 2007, Vitter was identified as a client of "D.C. Madam" Deborah Jeane Palfrey's escort service in Washington, D.C. How is that 'investigation' doing? Did the FBI start that investigation? And that non-investigation into outing a CIA agent named Plame, what about that?
The poor daughters- yes, I am sure they are much happier now. Private life is no longer private. Sorry, but sex between consenting adults is no crime. This is not even close to a real crime compared to Bush/Cheney. Cheney while drunk shot a guy in the face --and got away with it of course. That is a crime. Bush guts the EPA rules on smog- that will only cost a few thousand people their lives over the next few years, but Spitzer committed a terrible ‘crime’ and is hounded out of office? No, not even close.
Did they really find Spitzer by 'accident?' There is a big article in the LA times on how rare they even find these prostitute rings- let alone investigate thee johns. What are the odds? Fifty million johns not found out vs. one Dem Governor who is? See what Vegas would say about those odds! On the other hand, did Rove and the always-evenhanded Justice Department target Democrats again, like many other states we know about? And are YOU next?
This is just like Obama vs. Clinton. The GOP and right-wing protect each other; Dems tear each other apart over stupid trivialities.
Posted by Tom The Patriot at March 14, 2008 07:52 PMYou crack me up!
Posted by Bagley
another sign of how feeble minded chimp supporters are easily amused?
thanks turkana
for highlighting this info.
it is very important.
the united states constitution was born out of a deep disaffection with and contempt for
abuses of government power against government opponents
both
by the conduct of colonial governments
and by
the english crown, which latter, the founders knew well from english political history.
the bush administration has acted as if it were ignorant of this critical historical information.
in truth, they have acted,
repeatedly,
as if they were working from a soviet constitution:
show trials
political prosecutions
secret detentions
denials of due process and habeas corpus
manipulation of elections.
if you ever wondered what a "manchurian candidate" would do in america,
in real time,
observe what president cheney and "representational president" bush
have done, or allowed to happen, with civil liberties and with elections in the last eight years.
Posted by orionATL at March 14, 2008 08:05 PM"You crack me up!
Posted by Bagley
another sign of how feeble minded chimp supporters are easily amused?"
Try again "feeble minded chimp".....
Perhaps you should bay at the moon....
Posted by Bagley at March 14, 2008 08:08 PMhe's all your chimp bag boy...remember to use the toilet tonight and not the bed....
Posted by headxray at March 14, 2008 08:18 PMWe give the government the power to monitor monetary transfers to track drug deals. Now they're used to track payments to prostitutes. We give the government power to read our emails in order to find out terrorists, and now it's being used to release graphic people's sexual conversations.
What's big on the government's list of cases? How about dog-fighting, a crime that never was but now is a federal crime. Let's go full tilt on dog-fighting in Virginia while a certain organization has been grabbing people off the street, kidnapping them and taking out of the country to be tortured. Or how about some athlete who may have lied about whether he knowingly took steroids? The government has already invested over ten million on the Barry Bonds prosecution and the judge says that the indictment doesn't even make sense.
This is the war of terror.
Please all, bear in mind that the troll wishes you ill, wishes you harm, as what they support most assuredly does. So remember that the next time you want to engage them in casual insults. They are contemptible traitors to our founding principles.
When was the last time the Bush administrations Justice Department has gone into such detail to explain their case? When was the last time that the Justice Dept has been forthcoming about any of their actions? I think Shakespeare spoke to that.
They aren't trying to assure us that all was done scrupulously and fair, please, when was the last time they trod down that path? Ever?
It may not have been their wiretaps, it may not have been their TIA offspring, it might not have been their political legal firm aka The United States Department of Justice, but their stench is on this as sure as the stench that comes from the trolls.
If they really do prosecute Spitzer it will because of the vindictiveness of the Wall Street thieves that he pursued, and an indication of their influence with the White House.
Somebody on the NewsHour commented, as if it were stone fact, on his moral superiority, in reference to his prosecution of Wall Street corruption, as if his personal failings were a cogent equivalence to the Streets criminal failings.
That is the lens that Wall Street would have you view this tragedy. With Tom the Patriot, I say that there is no equivalence whatsoever between his sexual affairs and his prosecution of Wall Street Corruption.
If he has done these things, as it would appear, he is guilty of giving the GOP something that would be used against him rightly or wrongly. But that has nothing to do with his prosecutions of the Crooks on the Street, whose greed and shortsightedness and cowardice, (yes, cowardice-ever watched a selling panic as the mindless herd destroys a company whose only sin was a bad quarter?) is driving us towards a depression-never mind the recession talk, these fools haven't even thought about lifting their hooves from the gas pedal.
That's the truth of the Fall of Eliot Spitzer. Bushco's relentless abuses of our rights and our government has bagged them another Democratic Governor, 3 at least, and Corporate Sponsors couldn't be happier.
Posted by Duckman GR at March 14, 2008 09:02 PMWell, when a cheer goes up on Wall Street, that tells you all you need to know about the Spitzer story.
Posted by Judith at March 15, 2008 07:28 AM