sigh, again, where's a Nuremberg Trial when you need one?
Posted by Gay Veteran at March 24, 2008 12:35 PMas I posted in the Open Thread, Bush's Mouthpiece on the Ground, Petraeus, has blamed the Green Z attack on Iran, due to the fact he claims the rockets are Iran supplied. First, Iran, like the US, sells tons of munitions to other countries, so they are easy to get on the black market. But even if the rockets were Iranian, until the Brilliant General (who, by the way has admitted losing hundreds of thousand of dollars worth of US weaponry in Iraq) can prove it was Iranian citizens firing the rockets, not Iraqi's, he needs to STFU and admit his Surge Success is a gift given by Sadr. A gift easily taken back.
Posted by T2 at March 24, 2008 12:52 PMt2,
he's probably just trying to suck up to mccain, just in case. the rockets were fired by iranian shia/sunni al qaeda. or something.
Posted by Turkana at March 24, 2008 12:56 PMPBS is broadcasting a special edition of "Frontline" Monday and Tuesday (24th-25th) called, "Bush's War" that might be worth watching.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/
Posted by cnmne at March 24, 2008 01:17 PM"...Iraqis are fighting among each other over fundamental questions about the future of their country, but the central conflict is not between Sunnis and Shiites, it is between Iraqi separatists and nationalists."
snip
"Numerous polls...show that a majority of Iraqis from all different backgrounds tend to be more nationalist than separatist...for a complete U.S. withdrawal, for keeping a strong central government in Baghdad, and against privatizing and decentralizing Iraq's natural resources."
Iraq's "Hidden" Conflict by Raed Jarrar
Foreign Policy In Focus, March 18, 2008; http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/5078
privatizing...Iraq's natural resources
That's what motivates bipartisan US support for this dirty, thieving war.
Do our candidates have the hair to discuss this or are they in on the cut?
Posted by Pvt. Keepout at March 24, 2008 01:33 PM
You are almost gleeful when you get the opportunity to report bad news. One can tell it in your "voice"
Why is that?
Posted by jj at March 24, 2008 01:45 PMBush and his cretinous "Batte for Iraq" (His exact words from today's MSM "agenda" appearance). Yep, just like the Battle of Britain or the Battle of the Bulge.
But WE'RE the pinheads for still listening to him and his jingoist "Battle of _____" nonsense, and taking his stooge replacement, the unbelievably stupid dimwit McCain, seriously.
This country has no ability to think straight about the use of our military, the need for its enormous size and crushing expense, nor about the endless "wars" our idiot elites drag us into, half the time for their vanity. And we never will.
Our "war of terror" has been a lie from the beginning and was hopelessly botched to boot. Yet all that needs to be said to the American rubes is that we have to "show backbone!" in "tryin' times" to get them away from any serious thinking on the disaster.
Because the "opposition" party refuses to start denouncing this as a resource (oil) war from the beginning, we are trappped in the ridiculous Right-wing frame that Iraq is about national security and "Fightin' Terra!". So no traction can EVER develop about WHY we need to withdraw and leave Iraq to its people and neighbors, and why we have no business occupying their country.
And don't worry, Iraq will have to sell their oil somewhere---it's all they have, at least after we destroyed their country. It just might not be as sweet a deal for American BigOil and Halliburton. But the truth cannot be spoken by any "serious" politician. Nor by a single talking head on the MSM cable TV.
Posted by euzoius at March 24, 2008 01:46 PMCUT AND RUN!!,redux
Posted by onar at March 24, 2008 01:56 PMAs the Right-wing cretin onar rushes in to quickly prove my point.....thanks for playing.
Posted by euzoius at March 24, 2008 02:20 PMonar, why do you suppose that the United States, with the worlds most advanced military and led by George W. Bush is now in it's sixth year of war in Iraq? Are we trying to kill Iraqis? or what? Why can't we win?
Posted by T2 at March 24, 2008 02:23 PMYaas, Turkana, tell us of the Lexan & Tang of this epic strategic blunder!
We must know what meaningless bullshit justifies millions needlessly dead.
It's been five years, and the fog of war that settled over our nation has never really lifted. Public opinion has turned against the war without really turning toward peace. We're still wandering around, lost in the fog, while the madness continues. (And if Dick Cheney isn't in the Middle east getting everything buttoned down for an attack on Iran, he's sure doing a good imitation.)
Posted by Madison Guy at March 24, 2008 02:38 PMYou are almost gleeful when you get the opportunity to report bad news.
There is no glee in Turkana's voice jj.
You mistake glee with utter disgust. Turkana has taken it upon himself to do the journalism that our MSM hacks refuse to do. So that it can be brought to morons like you in an easy to understand format.
It ushered in a day of violence around the country that claimed the lives of at least 58 lraqis and four American soldiers.
If that is not gruesome jj... you need help!
"They Volunteered." - Dick Cheney
Posted by Seven of Six at March 24, 2008 02:54 PMeuzoius, do you read Glenn Greenwald? If not you should, he's a great writer.
onaN: "CUT AND RUN!!,redux"
hey onaN, you posting from Iraq?
no?
then STFU, you yellow elephant
Yes unlike you, Mr "Other Priorities" Deadeye Dick, they did volunteer.
I guess in Deadeye's perverted mind that means they have even less "right" to be taken into account than a draftee. And just how low in the Cheney "calculus" the hapless Iraqis figure is anyone's guess.
What a monster.
His severe mental illness and utter hatred of the country and its constitution cannot be concealed anymore, nor does he even try.
Posted by euzoius at March 24, 2008 04:25 PMeuzious,
"So?"
4000 dead.
"They volunteered".
Now if we could just get Cheney to volunteer instead of defer! Too demented...too sick...to alcoholic...to serve (except as VP)
Posted by tfitznc at March 24, 2008 04:33 PMWe live on the Outer Banks of NC, just 65 miles south of The Navy's Oceana Air base, home to
aircraft carrier jet jockeys, god bless them.
For the last year we have been experiencing a dramatic increase of night bombing runs of the Carolina Coast presumably. The y are coming like clockwork now starting after sunset.
What was that they were saying about not being able to stop the invasion of Iran??
God help us.................
Posted by chaz at March 24, 2008 07:05 PM