Stephen Colbert celebrated today by showing his mammoth "EARTH DAY" sign stretching across North Africa from space.
He said it was made of giant piles of burning tires.
Posted by TIKI AL at April 23, 2008 01:35 AMwoke up this morning and saw hrc won pa. congrats to her supporters. however, in speaking with a colleague, i wonder if obama can win the shooting match. not trying to be a race baiter here, but i want to propose hypothetical, based on the words of nash mc cabe, the abc plant during the debate, as well as the thread concerning the church in sc.
mrs. mc cabe epitomizes the folks illustrated by obama's now infamous bitter comment. her story is tragic, she is a finacially disenfranchised voter in small town pa. her struggle is heartbreaking, however, her reasons for not voting for him, (again, i take the reason at face value)is that he does not wear a flag pin on his lapel. not economics, but the divisive issues utilized by the repub attack machine.
what my colleague and i discussed is if america is really ready for either an african american or woman president. maybe more so a an african american than a woman. america still has roots in racism. and will the democrats in small town america, in privacy, really vote for a black man? are we as a country really ready for that?
then i read mitchell's article in the huffpo, echoing my colleague's and i concerns:
Before that, I had long suggested that many understate the number of older Democrats who are (still) racist and who would tip many contests to Clinton. But I closed yesterday's post by saying that if Obama won or came close in Pennsylvania that might put the issue to rest.
Didn't happen. And the exit polls show, again, that one in four Clinton voters claim they would not vote for Obama in November. For whatever reason. And she got 70% of the white, blue-collar vote in most regions, including the area of central Pennsylvania where I spent a lot of time growing up and heard many a racist remark.
Other details from polling turn up other troubling numbers along those lines.
And once again, the old phenomenon of exit polls proven wrong, because people with racist views do not tell pollsters the truth on election day, again reared its head. The final exit polls today indicated only a 4% Clinton win. Now it looks like 10%. That difference is largely the racial vote, I'd guess. I call them the true "late deciders" -- they decide to show their bigotry in the privacy of the voting booth.
i think we need to have this conversation...
regardless if hrc or obama wins, will this country embrace either in the general? i try to be hopeful, but i really don't know. both can and should beat mc cain, but will either really do it?
good morning everybody..great day to be alive..the people in pennsylvania have spoken
Posted by dennis at April 23, 2008 04:19 AMFrom the thread below:
You know folks, the statement or argument that CG brought us is the argument for the Electoral College. Without it, the cities get all the representation those raising crops, doing business in small town America virtually nothing. Democrats are living proof the Electoral College is needed.
My argument was not an argument for the Electoral College. The EC is winner take all. That's completely different from the proportional representation of the primaries. My argument was that if a candidate wins 55% of the popular vote, she should get 55% of the delegate count. If a candidate wins by 1 percent, he or she should win more delegates, or at least tie. That's not always happening.
Also, about the popular vote. FL and MI were told their delegates wouldn't be seated, but to me we should at least include FL in the popular vote total. They were never told their popular vote would be ignored. The delegates wouldn't be seated--that doesn't mean they won't have delegates, just that they won't count. They do exist. So don't count them, fine. Those are the rules. But those popular votes do exist.
Posted by CG at April 23, 2008 04:31 AMPetraeus to lead centcom watch out Iran.very scary.
Posted by George E. Seeger at April 23, 2008 09:31 AMWell, George wins the prize for most important news of the day: That Petraeus the Cheney Toady will inherit CentCom from the fired Fallon.
I predicted this the day that Fallon resigned (peter pinhead, you were wrong once again). Cheney must have a stooge general in at CentCom, one who will do as he is told enthusiastically and the Bushco creature Petraeus was the obvious willing choice.
The attack on Iran is likely going to go forward if Petraeus is confirmed. Another great opportunity for the Senate to show its mettle. Do any of the Dems really think that Petraeus will show independent judgment in evaluating and giving the Codpiece in Chief professional advice? Why would the senate confirm Cheney's yes man in such circumstances to this command if they actually oppose an unlawful, undeclared attack on Iran?
Posted by euzoius at April 23, 2008 03:36 PM