What irony...killed in the Lords house for doing the Lords work.
Now who is going to continue God's work of killing those damned pesky babies, er fetuses, that have so inconvenienced our women.
Maybe one of the kids he scraped in the 70's reincarnated and came back for revenge.
Posted by manapp99 at May 31, 2009 11:27 AMWhat a terrible business. I can't imagine choosing to work as an abortion health care provider, but I nonetheless support the right to abortion. This is domestic terrorism. These targeted killings reduce the likelihood that anybody would choose to enter this health care specialty.
Manapp - you are a disgrace as a human being for your comments above.
Posted by mike at May 31, 2009 11:46 AMman-ape
you are a terrorist as sure as the asshole who assassinated this obviously brave and principled doctor...terrorists are cowards man-ape....
"Manapp - you are a disgrace as a human being for your comments above."
How disgraceful that anyone would disagree with your POV.
God forbid.
You don't see the irony of him being killed working as an usher in a Lutheran church? He was not only an abortion doctor he was a late term abortion doctor. You know, the last three months when the fetus is viable.
Oh well, live by the sword die by the sword.
Posted by manapp99 at May 31, 2009 12:05 PMHey x-headray...I know you posted something but all I saw was blah blah blah.
Maybe if you re-post it will make it through the "to stupid to display" filter.
Posted by manapp99 at May 31, 2009 12:08 PMThis will not happen in Europe. It will not happen in Japan. It will not happen even in a developing country like India. What does that say about our society? We are not matured enough to look at abortion as a medical procedure that is some times necessary. I do not believe a woman enjoys having an abortion.
And the reason our society is so immature is people like Man Ape. In the name of saving life they will take a life. Does not make any sense.
Posted by suresh at May 31, 2009 12:10 PM"And the reason our society is so immature is people like Man Ape. In the name of saving life they will take a life. Does not make any sense."
If you look at it as "in the name of saving THOUSANDS of defensless lives they will take ONE life", it will make a lot more sense to you.
Would you take the life of someone standing at the fence of a daycare shooting little kids that did not have the abiltiy to run and hide?
Posted by manapp99 at May 31, 2009 12:17 PMs long as cowards like man-ape and the rest of the criminal apologists like him exist we are in trouble...
you have no viable view point to disagree with asshole, just rationalizations for murder.....
the doctor wasn't the murderer but your fellow terrorist is...
you need to go to jail with you those you make excuses for ape-man....
"...the last three months when the fetus is viable..."
Which shows how little you know about abortion. Late-term abortions are performed when the fetus is dead or deformed and will not survive and/or when the woman may die or have her health seriously compromised. These are acts of mercy, and Dr. Tiller was willing to put his own life in jeopardy for women in these kinds of situations. He was a hero.
And due to the fear caused by this terrorist's actions, fewer people will be willing to help women.
Posted by ignorance is harmful to your health at May 31, 2009 12:18 PMI know this study is old but look at the reasons for late term abortions as given by the women who had them:
In 1987, the Alan Guttmacher Institute collected questionnaires from 1,900 women in the United States who came to clinics to have abortions. Of the 1,900 questioned, 420 had been pregnant for 16 or more weeks. These 420 women were asked to choose among a list of reasons they had not obtained the abortions earlier in their pregnancies. The results were as follows:[3]
71% Woman didn't recognize she was pregnant or misjudged gestation
48% Woman found it hard to make arrangements for abortion
33% Woman was afraid to tell her partner or parents
24% Woman took time to decide to have an abortion
8% Woman waited for her relationship to change
8% Someone pressured woman not to have abortion
6% Something changed after woman became pregnant
6% Woman didn't know timing is important
5% Woman didn't know she could get an abortion
2% A fetal problem was diagnosed late in pregnancy
11% Other
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late-term_abortion
Posted by manapp99 at May 31, 2009 12:32 PMThis from Australia but more recent:
"The medical data tells a different story. In Victoria, the most recent data is from the Health Department's 2005 survey of perinatal deaths.
The majority of late abortions were for psychosocial reasons, not fetal abnormality.
The term "psychosocial" means there is no medical problem with the mother or the baby, but the parents request abortion because of economic or emotional stress"
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23117356-5000117,00.html
Posted by manapp99 at May 31, 2009 12:38 PMif your goal is to demonstrate you are unable to see reality you are performing admirably ape-man..
and you remain a terrorist coward....
Closer to home and on point about Tiller and his criteria for late term killings:
http://www.lifenews.com/state2339.html
"Tiller had been charged with doing illegal abortions contrary to Kansas law, which requires they only be done in very serious medical conditions.
According to the analysis McHugh provided, the late-term abortions were done for illegal reasons with most all of the women citing various social reasons for the abortions that he said could be easily remedied."
Posted by manapp99 at May 31, 2009 12:47 PMX....once again it came through as blah blah blah.
I don't think you are trying very hard. I know it must be you because the filter is set to minimum and still your comments are not making it through.
But please....try again.
Posted by manapp99 at May 31, 2009 12:52 PMAn op-ed piece and a twenty-year-old study that includes pre-viability abortions. Neat.
Anything else?
Posted by ignorance is harmful to your health at May 31, 2009 01:05 PM"An op-ed piece and a twenty-year-old study that includes pre-viability abortions. Neat.
Anything else?"
Actually there were three entries. One directly confronting the dead doc and his criteria for late term abortions.
However....I was responding to this:
"Which shows how little you know about abortion. Late-term abortions are performed when the fetus is dead or deformed and will not survive and/or when the woman may die or have her health seriously compromised. These are acts of mercy, and Dr. Tiller was willing to put his own life in jeopardy for women in these kinds of situations. He was a hero."
Which gave no link at all.
Oh yeah....that post was from you.
Neat.
Posted by manapp99 at May 31, 2009 01:11 PMAnd as far as the study including pre-viability abortions try reading the paragraph linked again:
"In 1987, the Alan Guttmacher Institute collected questionnaires from 1,900 women in the United States who came to clinics to have abortions. Of the 1,900 questioned, 420 had been pregnant for 16 or more weeks. These 420 women were asked to choose among a list of reasons they had not obtained the abortions earlier in their pregnancies. The results were as follows:[3]"
So the results that followed (you can view them in the earlier post) are for the 420 women that were 16 or more weeks, not for the 1480 that were not late term.
What irony...killed in the Lords house for doing the Lords work.
And he probably read the great skygod's book...unlike completely fucked-in-the-skull republi-KKKon assclowns such as yourself. You know the book I mean. The one you ignore yet think guides you in some magical way. The book that says human life begins after birth, not at any point before.
And I find you fucktards to be sickeningly amazing, beyond being quite stupid as well. Among the leading causes of neonatal mortality are lack of access to healthcare and poor nutrition...the exact stuff you love to deny to pregnant women. So you, and other scum just like you, have committed more feticide than all the abortion doctors in the world -combined- have performed abortions. Everyone cheer with me! FUCKTARD KKKons! FUCKTARD KKKons! FUCKTARD KKKons!
Posted by phidipides at May 31, 2009 03:50 PMMy condolences go out to Dr. George Tiller's family and friends and fellow church members. This is unconscionable. We should be able to have differences and not resort to this level of violence. Protest sure, but this is so far over the top...
Please folks, just know this, this Republican doesn't cotton to this type of action, period!
Posted by peter at May 31, 2009 05:57 PM
Will Bill O'Reilly be hauled in as an accomplice?
He used to rant about "Tiller the baby killer" on his "show".
I find the pro murder posts by the troll simply amazing. Christian fundamentalist terrorism.
Posted by TIKI AL at May 31, 2009 06:53 PMLooks to me like our subhuman visitor man-ape thinks this murder was justified. He is a moral reprobate and a mentally ill monster. Hopefully NSA is still monitoring blogs.
Based on this performance Man-ape should be permanently banned from this site.
Posted by euzoius at May 31, 2009 07:25 PMIf he was "born" in Baghdad he would be on his knees 7 times a day.
5 times to pray and 2 times to plant roadside bombs.
Posted by TIKI AL at June 1, 2009 02:15 AM"Update: as this murder shows, in the United States, domestic terrorism is alive and well."
Which reminds me. I haven't heard Gore speak in a while. I'm sure he is still busy committing international terrorism?
Posted by Anon at June 1, 2009 03:50 AMWhy is manapp99 being allowed to spew terrorist propaganda here?
Posted by libhomo at June 1, 2009 04:34 AM