Now even the Liberal Washington Post has an article on the mysteries of C Street in which 5 Congress critters den, both Democrats and Republics. On a hot summer evening, they sit on the porch, smoke cigars and chat. I'm sure the Christian Bible Studies are a great comfort to the greatly stressed lawmakers.
It seems that Tom Coburn, who lives there, hauled in the Ensign cuckold, Doug Hampton for a little talk, presumably before Fox News "broke" the story, during the 3 days they had his email and sat on it.
"He was trying to be a peacemaker," the source said of Coburn, a Republican from Oklahoma. Poor Tom! The story broke anyway.
It's long past time that the kitchen light is turned on and makes these Christian Cockroaches scurry for cover. They are working for nothing less than an Amerikan theocracy and they've been allowed to keep their attempted corruption secret for far too long. I had links to The Family" in the last open thread. The Taliban started out small and secret too! These goomers would actually WELCOME a Palin/Bachman ticket. The less sense they make, the harder it is for reality-based people to stop goggling with incredulity and saying, "but, but...".
Posted by DeminNewJ at June 26, 2009 04:10 AMthis C Street place is kinda creepy if you ask me. A bunch of middle aged/old guys living together-praying together...sitting around talking God-talk while planning to slip away with a boyfriend or girlfriend to Sin Street when no one's looking. These people make our laws (or in the GOP member's cases, obstruct making our laws). No wonder the country is so screwed up.
Posted by T2 at June 26, 2009 06:03 AMIf anyone has a Chase credit card please beware... Chase is raising monthly minimum payments from 2% to 5% effective August 1st. Like the average American I owe 10K on a Chase credit card, so my minimum monthly payments just jumped from 200 dollars to 500 dollars per month. They roped me in with a low 3.99% offer. I usually paid a 3% minimum monthly payment anyway, but forcing you to pay an extra 300 bucks a month is a backbreaker.
Chase is asking for to much, to soon from the American consumer.
So I have done the balance transfer offer, will be closing accounts and changing my banks very soon. Then transfer my mortgage to anyone other than Chase. Chase has lost a customer and I suggest to everyone, do not deal with Chase.
This is how Chase pays back the American people after we bailed them out with TARP money!
Fuckers!
Posted by Seven of Six at June 26, 2009 06:43 AMHave TLCers been following the climate change bill which will apparently be up for a vote today.
Many enviro groups oppose it as too weak and coal friendly. Gore supports it. If you want to make your views known to your rep, today's the day.
This is the problem with ignoring the climate crisis for a decade---we now don't have the luxury of passing a too weak bill, and don't have the strength of will needed to pass a strong one.
I suppose that one piece of federal legislation was never going to be enough to solve the climate crisis, and perhaps this will (finally) get the ball rolling---if indeed it even passes, because of course virtually all Rump-Repubs will oppose it.
They are simply the greatest party of scum and mindless nay-saying the country has ever seen.
Posted by euzoius at June 26, 2009 07:29 AMEuzo, passing a piece of crap and having American's pay for this crap, isn't going to get you anywhere in the future for future bills. This IS piece of crap bill. It has gone from 946 pages in markup on 6/19 to over 1200 pages this week. Amazing how those additional pages showed up. Who added them, what's contained in them?
Gore and the admin he worked in supported the West Virginia clearing of mountain tops to get at the coal. Enviro's never supported that, he did. Lord Gore's support of this shouldn't be the litmus test. Maybe it shows the weakness of the bill and the weakness of support for this cause. "Let's get something, anything done." As we are seeing, paying for anything and not seeing any progress will turn the people off of future tries. So call your reps, get them to pass this crap sandwich, have us pay for nothing, something that gets no results and exempts many industries and groups. And say goodbye to any more bites of this apple.
Posted by peter at June 26, 2009 08:28 AMMore intellectual dishonesty from Peter Putz, GOoPer clownsuit wearer---as though YOU would support ANY climate bill, ever.
And all with your "Inside-Congressball" patter: "946 pages....in markup on 6/19...1200 pages...who added 'em?" dog's breakfast of mindless shit.
I suppose the conserva-clown Col Klink rule applies: if Peter's Team Conservative thinks it shouldn't be passed, pass it.
Posted by euzoius at June 26, 2009 09:52 AMThe reason wages are declining and jobs are leaving is because of lies like climate change. Carbon taxes increase company expenses which get passed on via higher fees (look at your local utility monopolies) or by reduced salaries/benefits, or by moving jobs elsewhere to reduce costs.
Posted by Dennis at June 26, 2009 10:13 AMBoy! I REALLY do not want to come close to agreeing with Peter. Fortunately, I don't.
But I've been wrestling and blogging on this issue a lot this morning. As it turns our Paradox's argument about the conventional wisdom, now or never, is precisely my dilemma. This bill has become a dark shadow of the original bill, which I enthusiastically supported. It now contains a decade long experiment throwing scarce money at the "clean coal" shibboleth. The newly diluted carbon goals are insidiously inadequate. Cap 'n Trade goals have been stretched like salt water taffee into the future. 85% will not be AUCTIONED, but GIVEN to polluters and the rate of reduction has also been extended generously. I see small incentive there for at least a decade to cut emissions. That's not to mention the potential shenanigans of a brand new derivatives market for Summers & his Wonder Dog Timmy to "control".
Nookular energy gets lots of love, Big coal will have another few decades to cut mountains off; at the cost of R&D for genuine, carbon free energy. This bill is beginning to resemble a wet, projectile dream for big energy. And the process is by no means over. This is still only one bill, from one house. Who wants to bet it gets better? Perhaps, with real leadership I can believe in, it might. That's a pretty big if.
Does anyone else remember, during the Kyoto talks, when everyone agreed, based on what turned out to be wildly optimistic estimates of rate of change, that the standard we aren't meeting still, was to return to BELOW the 1990 levels of greenhouse gasses by 2050. A lot of science under the bridge now reveals that the process is much further along than then understood and change is happening MUCH faster than predicted.
Of course, all that said, if we stopped the train now and attempted to break this monster into sensible parts, the whole opportunity may well be lost. My biggest fear is that, once embedded in budgetary stone, this turkey may be all we ever get. Science is not negotiable. This bill, if not rapidly improved upon, will surely lead to climate disaster. In complex systems, tipping points DO exist and, once reached, are inexorable. It's not a question of wanting all or nothing. It's become a very close question of nothing or next to nothing.
As with health care. The best options were removed from the table before anyone ever sat down. My nostrils are getting rubbed raw from having to hold my nose to try to make any progress at all. I feel I know what it's like to have my neighbor decide to open up a massive pig farm. IT STINKS!
Posted by DeminNewJ at June 26, 2009 10:34 AMThe reason wages are declining and jobs are leaving is because of lies like climate change.
You are completely fucking nuts. The reason wages are dropping is because of no demand or employers can take advantage of the situation and make an assload of money under the guise of "being competitive." I don't know what you do, but you are likely competing with a laborer offshore who earns .50 cents an hour for doing your exact same job. The world is over-capacity when it comes to most production, and so you get to compete. Good luck!
Posted by phidipides at June 26, 2009 11:30 AMAmazing how in a reality-free wingnut mind already existing massive job losses can be "caused" by (slight) CO2 regulation that hasn't yet been adopted. That's conservative "logic" for you! Don't go into any science-related profession, Dennis the Doofus (as if you could).
DemNJ, you're right. And this was what we got with out BEST leaders, Waxman and Markey, running the show, with Gore saying we should pass it!
Climate change is not like a social revolution in Iran where one needs to keep plugging along with no real "deadlines" for reform: we're already at the end of the climate line (thanks, Bushco!), with no remaining room for error. And this travesty of ever weaker CO2 goals is the BEST our fab democracy---the most scientifically advanced nation on earth!---can do? Passing "anything" is now viewed as a great success. Process over substance, the end of the line for a political society.
Well at least we can't claim we're intellectually "better" than the hapless Easter Islanders. Except the whole planet is being substituted for Easter Island.
The huzzahs will be hard to take, if they can even pass the thing.
Posted by euzoius at June 26, 2009 11:50 AMIt's liberalism. Carbon tax. Family medical leave. Disability.
Socialism failing yet again.
Smart people keep warning you that charging these costs to companies just gets passed on to you via higher costs, lower wages and layoffs.
Check your utility bills. Going up!
Check your wages. Going down!
Empirical evidence triumphs again.
Posted by Dennis at June 26, 2009 12:09 PMBoy, that's one of the most incoherent, ignorant and illogical posts we've ever seen at TLC, Dennis.
You are a god-awful moron, yet you actually think you're one of the "smart people". Classic Conservative White Male Sydrome.
Go mow someone's lawn, Dennis. I assume you can handle that level of "thinking".
Posted by euzoius at June 26, 2009 12:26 PMIt's liberalism. Carbon tax. Family medical leave. Disability.
Explain why a man with a disability can do the same job as a healthy man, yet the company will keep the healthy man. It's the fucking bottom line Dennis... conservatives are too fucking afraid that they might have to help people so they get rid of them.
Same as the loyal 20 year full time employee... they become more expensive to the employer... more vacation and sick time accrued... the company would rather go with younger healthy employees who they don't have to employ full time, pay health insurance to, or overtime.
Think Wal-Mart wages and living standard scumbag!
Posted by Seven of Six at June 26, 2009 02:00 PMI see my NJ friend didn't want to agree with me but he did. This is a one bite of the apple folks. Mess this one up and forget it for another four years. Hope Waxman-Markey or H.R. 2454 does it for ya.
Posted by peter at June 26, 2009 04:02 PMWhite House Is Drafting Executive Order to Allow Indefinite Detention of Terror Suspects. Embracing claims made by the former president again.
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Euzo, our president want us to follow Spain's model. Funny thing, sad really, Spain has an 18% unemployment rate to go with that green model. University leaders there know green jobs cost more than $700k to create and generally cost 2.2 normal jobs. Whole industries are now moving out of the country. South Africa sure is seeing an uptick in their employment, other third world countries too.
Wow, it passes, 219 to 212, with eight Republicans helping it pass. There you go folks, it's done House version, changed to HR 2998 recently. So send your appreciations to Republicans:
Bono Mack
Castle
Kirk
Lance
LoBiondo
McHugh
Reichert
Smith (NJ)
They got you where you are today. Lets see what the senate does...
And of course Greenpeace Does care for it too much.
"“As it comes to the floor, the Waxman-Markey bill sets emission reduction targets far lower than science demands, then undermines even those targets with massive offsets. The giveaways and preferences in the bill will actually spur a new generation of nuclear and coal-fired power plants to the detriment of real energy solutions. To support such a bill is to abandon the real leadership that is called for at this pivotal moment in history. We simply no longer have the time for legislation this weak."
There you go folks, follow Al Gore with this crap sandwich or Greenpeace. We now have this topic checked off as done, at least in the House.
Posted by peter at June 26, 2009 04:51 PMI guess in your intellect/thought free "mind" you are proving something to all us lib'ruls eh, shit brain pete?
I guess it's too much to expect you to note that no one agrees with your "brilliant, insightful, analysis".....
shit brain petie, legend in your own mind..
your don quixote act is mighty old shit head...
go find something to shoot up shit brain...it's all you and your fellow assholes understand...
Posted by headxray at June 26, 2009 05:09 PMthe petie-troll doesn't take much to get fired up..
Notice the daily progression of his delusions?
What a success Iraq's become. No question about it.
Posted by peter at June 23, 2009 09:30 PM
Yeah headcase, Iran's trying to change the subject. For you, they've done it. Feels good doesn't it. Nice to see you're led around by your nose. How's the leash?
Posted by peter at June 26, 2009 05:30 PMwassamatta shit brain pete..am I getting to close to the reality which only exists in that tiny space between your ears?
you live in fantasy land as much as MJ did...you're delusional..you make things up that only you perceive...
this is a great example shit head:
What a success Iraq's become. No question about it.
Posted by peter at June 23, 2009 09:30 PM
get help shit-fer-brains pete...it's your kind that got us in Iraq and is making up crap about Iran...it's your type that ruined the economy and lead to thousands, maybe a million deaths in Iraq
it's you and your kind that shoot up innocent people in churches
shit-fer-brain pete ruining the planet one delusion at a time....
Posted by headxray at June 26, 2009 06:26 PM