Comments: Open Thread

How about our president yesterday! What a gracious concession that he and Vice President Biden were wrong two years ago and our then President Bush and VP Cheney were right.

"Today's transition is further proof that those who have tried to pull Iraq into the abyss of disunion and civil war are on the wrong side of history," Obama said at the White House.

I'm sure even Rummy has a smile on his face. Thank you President Obama for your leadership here. American's should be proud of what we accomplished there and those who've paid the price should be viewed as hero's by all. If you see a Service Member anywhere, thank them for their service, maybe even pick up the tab if in a restaurant.

Posted by peter at July 1, 2009 03:24 AM

How about that psycho-pete© and the farcical drivel he spews 24/7?

Never before has a troll displayed as much ego as to attempt hi-jacking every TLC open thread for his brand of republiKKKon propaganda....

psycho-pete© and his buddies...like the party guests who never go home...you're ignorant troll and miles past boring...

But come to think about it, you do display the intellect of a jellyfish....

Posted by headxray at July 1, 2009 06:18 AM

speaking of jellyfish...a new poll shows barely half of respondents nationwide want Mark Sanford to resign!!! Let's see, he has multiple mistresses while campaigning as a Family Values GOPer, leaves his job for a week without telling anyone including his own sons where he is....but almost half of the country are good with that? Man, Bush really lowered the bar.

Posted by T2 at July 1, 2009 06:54 AM

...that he and Vice President Biden were wrong two years ago and our then President Bush and VP Cheney were right.

I didn't know Obama and Biden found WMDs in Iraq!? I'll be damned.

So, can we talk about the Bush/Cheney economic mackerel?

Posted by phidipides at July 1, 2009 09:25 AM

For a long time...way too long...the crap spewed by the ignorant but predictable pete has tarnished and trashed this site...it's one thing to be tolerant and allow thinking individuals a place to express diverse opinions, but it's clearly another to allow most likely paid trolls day after day another place to spew their lies and cherrpicked bullshit without being shut down. Shame on the left coaster for continuing to allow this jerk a platform to be ignorant. Shame on letting him fuel the fire of disgust and ire among the thinking majority that visit this site and are just trying to escape the hate filled propaganda emanating from fools like him. He serves no meaningful purpose here at all. If I really needed to find out what his latest fauxrage du jour is, it's be pretty easy as his style of craptastic illogical f*cktard thinking runs 24/7 on faux news. Please just shut him down. Please just shut him down.

Posted by emal at July 1, 2009 10:53 AM

more for psycho-pete© and his buddies to gloat over and apologize for:

At Salon, Glenn Greenwald writes:

The interrogation and detention regime implemented by the U.S. resulted in the deaths of over 100 detainees in U.S. custody — at least. While some of those deaths were the result of "rogue" interrogators and agents, many were caused by the methods authorized at the highest levels of the Bush White House, including extreme stress positions, hypothermia, sleep deprivation and others. Aside from the fact that they cause immense pain, that’s one reason we’ve always considered those tactics to be "torture" when used by others — because they inflict serious harm, and can even kill people. Those arguing against investigations and prosecutions — that we Look to the Future, not the Past — are thus literally advocating that numerous people get away with murder.

C'mon trolls get off your lazy asses and rell us more about what a great job dead eye dick head and his pet chimp did in I-raq...

Posted by headxray at July 1, 2009 10:58 AM

Folks:

Peter lives in his own world where Republicans are always right and Democrats are always wrong. He will never admit that going to Iraq was a mistake even though majority of Americans think so. By the way Peter's world must be on another planet because he does not believe that there is global warming problem that all scientists claim.

It looks like he is in deep amnesia and we should not wake him up. If he wakes up and sees that a Democrat in whitehouse is solving nation's problems and our country is getting better, he will be overwhelmed with sadness and may collaps.

We do want to lose him from this blog but we do want him to be alive. After all he still is our fellow (bad) citizen.

Posted by at July 1, 2009 11:10 AM

emal speak with strait tongue.

Posted by TIKI AL at July 1, 2009 11:43 AM

peter is a deeply, deeply intellectually dishonest person, making up spin and nonsense on a daily basis, seeking merely to goad and irritate.

He knows that nothing he writes has a lick of sense in it, and that no syllable would be persuasive to the dumbest lib'rul in Murica.

He is here to feel satisfaction that he can "express" his shit on a lib'rul site, and if his daily shit irritates those on the site, so much the better.

To his credit, he is almost never personally insulting no matter how roundly he is denounced. It's almost inhuman.

And he also serves as a foil for posts which counter his lies and dishonest posts, but while satisfying to beat the living shit out of his garbage, I question the value of the debate. Some would say that he is a good punching bag for pointing out the worthless lies and talking points of the Right.

If he were actually making arguments that he believed in, I might be sympathetic, but his recent creation of daily sophist nonsense, such as citing GreenPeace's dismay with the cap and trade bill, as though the bill's weakness is why HE opposes it, or today's Iraq idiocy, takes him out of the good faith camp and places him clearly in the dishonest game player camp.

Posted by euzoius at July 1, 2009 12:59 PM

I guess that our president, the person emal voted for, didn't say those words even though there is video of it. And to anonymous(afraid to stand by the words typed) up there, my world has a President Obama succeeding a President Bush. In my world President Obama held a town hall meeting today. And Helen Thomas went after Gibbs, calling it a phony town hall.

I'm sorry, my world doesn't have all peoples heading in one direction like in THX1138. We don't support the burning of books like Fahrenheit 451, BTW when and where is your next book burning? I'd like to watch.

What did Jane Hamsher write today?

"The White House is smoking mad at Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas), who says he's voting against the climate bill — despite the lobbying of the entire First Family in the Oval Office last night.

If the bill goes down, Obama won't forget Doggett's role, Democrats say.

It's "stunning that he would ignore the wishes not just of his president, but of his constituents and the country,” said an administration official."

Doggett, a life long Democrat, they won't forget...

Glenn writes;

"This has become an emerging theme among both the White House and House leadership: that progressive members of Congress have an obligation to carry out "the wishes of the President" even when they disagree (now, apparently, it's "stunning" when they defy his dictates). That was the same subservient mentality that led House Democrats who admitted they opposed the war supplemental spending and/or the foreign bank bailout to nonetheless vote for the bill: because they President favored it. The duty of Congress is not to obey the wishes of the President."

That's my world, a world that allows Glenn Greenwald and Jane Hamsher the freedom to express these sentiments. A world where you don't have to carry out and "obey the wishes of the President".

But then there's Thomas Friedman. He says "Just do it." Doesn't matter that's in the bill, "Just do it." Because it's a bill. Euzo would be proud.

And when are we going to help Iran's green movement?

Posted by peter at July 1, 2009 01:01 PM

well I see Mr drivel-spew psycho-pete© is back with more unoriginal.unintellectual, and uninteresting bullshit...
dunno exactly I quit reading any of it a long while ago..

But I will make sure to point out that the complete waste of life is spewing crap and to make certain he is roundly denigrated and insulted for said spew...

keep it up asswipe pete I am certain I can continue to find ever more creative ways to insult you and your propaganda...

I am certain Goebbels would be very proud of you...you do emulate Nazi methods very effectively, telling the evermore BIG lie

Posted by headxray at July 1, 2009 01:18 PM

And when are we going to help Iran's green movement?

We are helping. By staying out of it. Not our fight, not our country, not our problem.

Posted by Twinky P* at July 1, 2009 01:23 PM

"So what next? The Obama administration is moving ahead with plans to bankroll Iranian opposition groups, for starters. USA Today’s Ken Dilanian notes that the U.S. Agency for International Development is planning to dole out $20 million in grants to support “democracy, human rights, and the rule of law in Iran.” The deadline for those grant applications passed yesterday." Wired

Seems, we've been funding many things, sure "staying out of it".

Posted by peter at July 1, 2009 01:55 PM

So what next? mr bi-curious psycho-pete©
actually pulls his head out of his ass and realizes what an actual scum bag he is?

Posted by headxray at July 1, 2009 02:28 PM

Ah. Now I know why you asked about helping the green movement. You thought you had a real gotcha there, didn't you, peter?

So, a Bush program that got a lot of Iranian dissidents killed because Condi announced it to the world - no wonder Lieberman's all for it. I remember the NGOs protesting it back in the day because it put targets on their backs. But it is not in Obama's budget so, yeah, he's staying out of it. The woman who reviewed the applications said most of the money will end up going to DC think tanks, anyhow. Wonder how much Cheney's pal Chalabi ended up with?

So, how does that help the green folks again? Well, I suppose directing monies to more local groups interested in promoting freedom and the right to peacefully protest is a worthy notion, which is why Obama's asking for that to happen.

State Department spokesman Ian Kelly said, "Respecting Iran's sovereignty does not mean our silence on issues of fundamental rights and freedoms, such as the right to peacefully protest."

It's gamesmanship, sure, but a lot less clunky and dangerous than how the GOP would have it played. Thank goodness.

Posted by Twinky P* at July 1, 2009 04:12 PM

bye, peter. Please go post somewhere else.

Posted by Mary at July 1, 2009 07:06 PM

Thank you, Mary. I would rather let Hannity or a Jehova's Witness in than read his Kool Aid crap.
I truly believe he is a paid disruptor of no value to the progressive cause. A dishonest "devil's advocate" with an obvious cut n' paste agenda. Again, much thanks, TIKI.

Posted by TIKI AL at July 2, 2009 01:26 AM

Gosh, I hope peter was able to experience one last humiliation before he left! He seemed to enjoy it so.

Thanks, Mary!

Posted by Twinky P* at July 2, 2009 05:22 AM

Thanks Mary....sorry, but I just had enough of him. And I would have been happy with the disemvowelling (?sp) tool you used to employ.

Anyway, thanks again.

Posted by emal at July 2, 2009 09:42 AM
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