Comments: Open Thread

Riverbend has a new post up. She discusses events around her and the fact she saw Farenheit 9/11. This one line says hits it just right about Junior's failure in the GWOT.

Three years ago, Iraq wasn't a threat to America. Today it is.


She is exactly right. This is W's legacy. And as a warning, I don't want to hear about the flypaper strategery. That is not the answer. Iraq was never a threat to our country, our citizens, our troops. GWB has created this nightmare that now threatens all and that has now killed and maimed scores of American troops, and innocent Iraqi's. This is Dubya's failure and this albatross needs to be hung around his neck.

Posted by emal at September 15, 2004 04:57 AM

I bought Kitty Kelly's book on the Bush family yesterday from a table at Borders which was once filled with copies, but by the time I arrived, down to five copies. I always support Kitty because she has balls and ain't afraid to take on the big dudes. Her book on the Bush's is UN-real. I read it all and was left with the feeling that if we survived Bush Sr, we can survive his son. Bar Bush comes off as a total asshole--didn't speak to W for a year because of his drinking--this is a mother??? She was also in love with her dog, Millie. Poppy had several affairs with some geeky women, ignored his children and drank heavily--the erping incident in Japan was due to a vicious hangover. Jebby the Gov of the late state of Florida, is a turd. The only people who come out smellin' like a rose are Laura Bush and Nancy Reagan. Laura, because she suffers so much from W, and Nancy because she so blatently despised Poppy and Bar. The funniest line is when a Yale classmate describes W as "..a Sears repairman."

Compared to the Kennedy's, the Bush family comes off as poor white trash from some mountain holler in a miserable state somewhere in this here "homeland". I believe everything Kitty Kelly writes because her publisher is DoubleDay which is also my cousin's publisher--and my cousin is a fine person and a great novelist.

Besides reading for fun and profit yesterday, I put in two hours at our Kerry phone bank and put up my K/E yard sign. Oh, yeah, in Washington DC, Marion Barry, the outlaw former Mayor and major druggie won a seat as councilman in Ward 8. This is good news because it shows how desperate voters are for leadership...even from such a dissapted soul as he.

Posted by BushHater at September 15, 2004 06:09 AM

I believe everything Kitty Kelly writes because her publisher is DoubleDay which is also my cousin's publisher--and my cousin is a fine person and a great novelist.


Your logic for determining the truth is amazing. You an idiot Bushhater.

Hey I just published a book called all Liberals are morons and it's publisher is DoubleDay. GOD DAMN IT MUST BE TRUE!

Do us a favor and don't reproduce. Your kind gives the rest of us level headed Democrats a bad name.

Posted by Voting for Kerry at September 15, 2004 06:29 AM

It is seemingly impossible to hurt Bush with standard attacks over various domestic and foreign issues. He lies with impunity. Apparently there is a strong possibility enough people can be duped by Rove & Co. to get him reelected. Four more years of his rule will be disasterous for our nation. What will it take to shake confidence in him? A foundering economy hasn't hurt him. TANG duplicity hasn't fazed him. Plame, Larry Franklin and John Scully's Medicare fraud don't matter. Iraq lies on WMD's and Bin Laden still on the loose seem irrelevant to most. What will it take? The only events I see hurting him are cataclysmic defeats in Iraq, on the ground. As terrible as it is to contemplate in order for change to occur we need devastating military losses to be suffered at the hands of Iraqi insurgents. Multiple skirmish losses counting in the hundreds, if not thousands, of U.S. soldiers. It is the only way the public will be jolted from their miasma. Americans will have to die, violently and very publicly, in numbers CNN, FOX, MSNBC, and the major networks can't ignore. Then maybe it will be safe for the majority to finally point out the emperor has no clothes and have it stick.

Posted by steve duncan at September 15, 2004 06:44 AM

hey, what ever happened to the Plame investigation?

It (somehow) just left the airwaves and print media. I haven't heard anything about it in weeks?

I thought Fitzgerald was almost ready to do something, and then, nothing.

Did the Bushassholes get to him too?

Posted by John B. at September 15, 2004 07:49 AM

About Plame, the game has always been to delay until after Nov.2. Fitzgerald realizes his career is over if he indicts anyone, including the White House janitor, before the election. His career may not be the only thing he loses, either.

Posted by T2 at September 15, 2004 08:08 AM

What about Hersh and his new prison abuse book?? I saw him on Hardball and when Chris asked him how far up and who in the Pentagon was implicated, Hersh wimped out bigtime. To me, he looked like an idiot and I don't think he is one. The point he tried to make, in between Matthews interruptions, was an important one: that the US standing in Muslim countries has been crushed by this abuse policy fermented in the Bush Admin. Any plan (not that there is/was one) by the current Admin or future Admins to tame the middle east is just not gonna happen for years now. But really, BushCo doesn't give a hoot about the abuse or the Muslim people, they are just targets standing on top of oil.

Posted by T2 at September 15, 2004 08:20 AM

I have just return after a 4 months stay in Europe. There, I was able to get multi opinions on the American political mess and its worldwide repercussion. It was just a reinforcement of what I had felt since 2002. All that I talk to, could not believe that the Americans people, who had always been envy and considerate as the freest people in the world, could blindly follow a man who rises to glory was that he just was president when 911 happened. On that fatal day, Ossama wanted to destroy our economy, and with Bush helps as our leader, he has realized that dream. At the end, we will only have ourselves to blame.
This is a translation of an article I found.

The Pinocchio effect: By Marc Moulin (Belgium)
In spite of all that one tells, the reelection of George W Bush remains possible. Little as you- know-what, which makes the advertisement "" Ladies and Gentleman, John Kerry is elected as the 44th President of the United States of America sounds still to date like science fiction. What will remain of what could be well the first half-time of the bushiest mandate?
An economic disaster: The USA has reached the historical record of their trade deficit, which still will weaken their economy forever. An inextricable mud pit geopolitics, among others in Iraq. Violations of human right were reports especially at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. A health care law which distribute subsidies and tax exemptions to the doctors, health care providers and pharmaceutical industries, but without helping the patients. A devotion without weakness with oil and armament lobbies. Confuse financial scandals. A fanaticism religious State: that does not have anything to do with the Americans believers. An education bankrupted. But in spite of this sad honors’ list, more amazing innovation of the era Bush is certainly its culture for lies. Never a president of the USA have lie, even a little as close as G.W.B. Nixon resigned, thirty years ago, on a peccadillo: he denied knowing that his party spied on their rival democrat. Clinton lied on a faribole (feminine nonsense): a sexual intercourse "inappropriate". George W Bush has organizes the lie as azimuth, and arrives to sell it as truth to the opinion. Until before him, one could read in the American handbook of ideas, it was understood that Americans electors supported all except lies. It is, as one could say, ended.

Posted by not stupid at September 15, 2004 09:55 AM

This is sickening. I thought that nothing that the Bush Administration does could shock me, but Hersh has proven me wrong.

Posted by EvanstonDem at September 15, 2004 07:19 PM

Dear Voting For Kerry: You lack humor but I appreciate your input.

Posted by BushHater at September 16, 2004 05:16 AM