I wonder how those Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee now feel about giving Goss a pass at his confirmation hearings.

They mostly wish that they could be spending February voting on his Kerry-nominated replacement, I would guess.

"his installation of the partisan hack Porter Goss is already" bla bla. Steve, the Goss appointment was directly enabled by loser Dems, including our P&VP candidates, Hillary, and the thankfully removed Daschle. The Dems, scared to do anything, let Goss, who was clearly going to be the worst possible partisan appointment, sail through with no problem. Alot of the problems we have are directly traceable back to the weak-kneed Dems who just won't fight for anything. Crooked votes....we don't wanna cause turmoil, Crooked CIA, we don't wanna cause a turmoil, Crooked Entire Bush Administration....we don't wanna cause a turmoil. No wonder we have lost the last three national elections. Most of the Dem leadership *are* losers.

And one other thing: If the CIA hates Bush and Goss so much, why don't they do something about it. They know the truth about all the BushCo scandals. Spill it you Spooks, spill it.

Let em' have at it. Give em' all they want. They'll hang themselves . The Right has never been successful at anything unless its a stolen idea from the Left. Four more years of getting it their way and things will be so fucked up the country will be begging for new blood.

Yeah, I watched those hearings. None of our senators really had any guts. It was frustrating.

I read somewhere today (sorry I would give due credit to the person if I could remember who and could find it) that the CIA under Goss will become the KGOP. Thought that sounded pretty accurate.

According to Daniel Hopsicker at madcowprod.com, Porter Goss "appears to be visible in a photograph taken in 1963 in a Mexico City nightclub of members of the CIA’s secret assassination squad known as 'Operation Forty.'"

This would be the assassination team that Hopsicker links to Dallas unpleasantness on November 22, 1963. Which begs the question -- was Porter Goss on the Grassy Knoll?

T2, DITTO

Is there anything that the democrats are willing to fight for?

Is there anything that the democrats are willing to fight for?

Abortion, amnesty, and acid? Oh, wait, wrong decade...

Ummm, no. There isn't.

Is there anything that the democrats are willing to fight for?

Plenty.

Abortion, amnesty, and acid?

The Bush day-planner for the 70's

Off post, but still fun. How to hack the vote.

Is there anything that the democrats are willing to fight for?

Plenty.

Y'know, America and stuff.

There's an entire Constitution to fight for. It's the fighters we need to identify. I'll start with Dr. Dean.

CK:

That picture and hypothesis is quite remarkable. That is the kind of story that the John Kerry I remember from the 1980's would love to dig into.

Maybe the CIA needs a good house cleaning after dropping the ball on 9/11, WMD's in Iraq and other failures. Maybe somenew blood with some people who will think outside the box and not be trying to defend some bueracratic fiefdom will enable the US to fight the war on terrorism with better intelligence than we are now armed with.

Porter Goss: Another swine. But, if he is in fact managing to destroy the CIA - good on him! It's just one of many institutions I'd love to see crumble into chaos, and ultimate nonexistence.

The CIA's primary gifts to the world have been the assassinations of Guevara and Allende, the overthrow of the Sandinistas, the massacre of FMLN members and indigenous organizers, the slaughter of Latin labor leaders, the seeding of disinformation throughout the American and foreign media, illegal snooping on Americans, and God knows how many crimes that we have no idea about. I don't care if they're ostensibly keeping us safe from the Al Queda bogeyman; if they hadn't participated in the bogeyman's creation in the first place (see: murder of Nasser, support for Shah of Iran, money + guns to Osama/Muhajadeen), there wouldn't have been the problem for them to solve.

Go ahead, Porter, do your stuff. Make the CIA the most money-draining, inept, useless secret policeman's polo club on the planet; you'll be doing us all a favor.

David/RabidNation

More here on the Bush purge at CIA... they aren't leaving by accident... or because Team Bush is incompetent... this was predetermined after the post Iraq war leaks...

The dems feel just like they always do after they've once again fallen for the "check is in the mail" line. Only with the dem leadership since Tip O'Neill, I think they look forward to having their checks bounce. The party leadership needs to go. $500 MILLION dollars they took from amerikan voters this election cycle, and for that you get I quit, Porter, Porter, he's our man, and Mr Sen Joe Biden sucking the heels of Little Lord Torture is A-OK by me Gonzales. What a pathetic bunch.

What an intelligent group of people you have on this blog! I must admit a bit of ambivalence about Goss. On one hand there has been a need to reorganize the agency. I thought the CIA would profit by recruiting more agents who speak Arabic, Farsi and Hebrew and putting them on the ground around the globe to ferret out terrorist cells. This isn't a war we can fight with satellites. But after the arrogance and mendacity of the Dubya crowd concerning the WMD/yellow cake information, I was halfway rooting for the agency to turn on the neocons with a vengeance and rip their balls off. Oh, well...that could still happen.