Like I was saying, y'all really need to get behind the whole Dean thing because that's where you were going before the same people who are pushing for Donnie Fowler decided to install Lurch.

Is it too much of a surprise that a troll would want to see a real two-party system in this country?

Don't sit back and watch the Democratic Party sell out, comrades. Let 'em know what you're thinking ---and keep the prinicpled (albeit nauseatingly) liberal voice alive.

Is this an indication that they are distancing themselves from the Clintons? Also, is it true that Harold Ickes is backing Dean?

"Like I was saying, y'all really need to get behind the whole Dean thing because that's where you were going before the same people who are pushing for Donnie Fowler decided to install Lurch."

I agree with Pretzel and Steve Soto. We cannot hate John Kerry enough. Proud members of the left should urinate and defecate in public on old Kerry campaign posters. We have to make it clear what we stand for.

Gotta love Toby using talking points from a drug addict. These trolls love criminals i guess. Heck, muck wants a crack whore, a stalker and a person who exposes himself in public to reside in the WH!

I know cupcakes, and you're no Cupcake....I like your name, makes your comments that much more brutal, haha

Is it too much of a surprise that a troll would want to see a real two-party system in this country?

But Toby, you keep wanting the second party to support the same things the first party supports. What the hell fun would that be?

Admit it: If the Republicans would just shut up about your porn, you'd be cool with a dictatorship.

I don't see an affirmation of Dean as being a "turning away" from Bill Clinton.

But I do believe it IS an affirmation of the Democrats finally deciding to BE Democrats...not Republican "lite".

If the party shows its nuts and pounds away at the Republicans on OUR issues...labor, Social Security, healthcare...and is not afraid to call out the Republicans to the American people to take note of where "deregulation" and blind allegiance to the CORPORATE ideal of the free market has led the common man (outsourced jobs, increased work weeks, dual income families, reduced benefits, unsafe health regulations, damage to the environment, tax cuts favoring only the policies and pocketbooks of the RICH), we will not only win back the White House but it is the REPUBLICAN Party that will be delitimized AGAIN...and sent back to the political backwater from whence they came.

One predicate act necessary for the Democratic Reformation is to move away from Clinton and the notion that he was some marvelous leader of the Democratic Party. A talented politician, sure, but a great leader, no.

The keys to our future are our own hands, not in Bill Clinton's or any other political icon. The most obvious and most talked about factor in the Dean Movement is aggressive opposition to the Republicans. An equally important factor is that we, the people, have the power to change things and that we, the people, are the only ones who can really make it happen.

Cupcake: I also like your name, and would be proud to stand with you, and urinate and defecate on every old political poster we can find of any political persauison or party. You can count on me.

Is it too much of a surprise that a troll would want to see a real two-party system in this country?

Davis:

But Toby, you keep wanting the second party to support the same things the first party supports. What the hell fun would that be?

If you're saying that I wish the Democratic Party were more in support of this war and the overall strategy of taking the fight to the Islamofascists then, yeah, that would be nice. That way, I could feel a hell of a lot better about voting for a Democrat who shares my own [progressive] views.

Face it, Matt. You guys flaked out over this war when you didn't even need to. Because that's all part of the paleo- and neo-hippie ethic: preach world peace and human and civil rights, but never concede what it takes to effect that change. Are the rights we enjoy here universal or not? Why have you people abandoned that basic tenet of American ideology?

Admit it: If the Republicans would just shut up about your porn, you'd be cool with a dictatorship.

Heh, heh. I'll have to borrow that one.