Bush is so transparent, it's embarrassing. So Johnny-on-the-spot with this, yet experts tell of global warning, and his response? Let's study it for a year or 5.

Well, they were going to finger Saddam and invade Iraq, but then somebody at State reminded them that they already did that.

if we don't invade syria, they'll kill another billionaire friend of the sauds. why, it could be any one of us!

We need to encourage the Bush administration to go to war with Syria, both to further deplete our armed forces and to erode American confidence in Bush's leadership. Until the generals in the Pentagon and average American sees Bush as the loose cannon that he is, we're going to get nowhere destabilizing the Republican party.

On to Damascus!

didn't paul see a burning bush on the road to damascus? or was it a burning oil refinery?

Plus, Faux Cable News was pushing the Syria connection big time today.

And they get their talking points from the RNC and WH, right?

Better yet, why don't we just go into the Middle East, drop a nuke on all of them and get it over with. Why play around. In fact, I am not so sure that this evil idiot hasn't already intertained that thought.

With the SS changes is getting more oppositions, program cuts, 82B+ to be add to our deficit, our poor king george has not been to popular and have lost some point in the polls, and need some pick me up! It has work before, why not going to war! He did it with Afghanistan, Iraq and it worked why not going after another axel of evil? Iran, Syria or North Korea is the choices. Therefore are you surprise, that so quickly this warmonger administration are attacking Syria? Holding them responsible for this attack in Lebanon? Is it not the weakest of the 3? Does it looks to you that we have been there done that twice. Why no another one. Do they expect that the Iraqi will demand that we leaves therefore they can just cross the boarder.
I wish he had gone back to be the first man on mars he does have short attention span. See how quickly the topic change.

Today, I read:
State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said the United States has "made it clear" it wants Syria, which maintains some 16,000 troops in Lebanon, to use its influence to prevent such attacks.

"I have been very careful to say we really don't know who committed this murder at this point, but we do know what effect the Syrian presence in Lebanon has," Boucher said. "And we do know that it doesn't bring security for Lebanese."

I'd like to rewrite that:
State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said the citizens have "made it clear" they want USA, which maintains some 180,000 troops in Iraq, to use its influence to prevent such attacks.

"I have been very careful to say we really don't know who committed this murder at this point, but we do know what effect the USA presence in Iraq has," Boucher said. "And we do know that it doesn't bring security for Iraqi's."

...but then, you saw that coming, didn't you?

this has Rummy's new "black ops" teams all over it.. we're stirring up shit, and pointing fingers. then we're going to go in for real.

The Bush Admin is like a broken record, every cycle they sing the same song. It would not be a shock if BushCo arranged the bombing in Lebanon just to present this opportunity to distract from the lost SS scam, the lost Iraq election, and all other bad news emanating from the White House. The truth is they have no plan....no plan for Syria, no plan for Iraq, no plan for N. Korea, no plan for Iran,no plan for SS, no plan for the deficit, no plan for anything. Whoops, sorry, they do have a plan to cut down the national treasure of Sequoia National Park in order to keep those trees, (which are naturally resistant to fire), from burning. I'll tell you what's burning, and that is the Bush Admin, it is a flaming hoax on all fronts.

Cupcake, assuming you were serious, how many innocent Syrians and GIs are you ready to see killed to "destabilize the Republican party"?

Let's have no more bullshit wars please.

The chickenhawk-in-chief has already proven his incompetence and loose cannonhood ad nauseum for anyone not a diehard rethug and/or moron to plainly see.

Somebody (Feith? Bolton? Boykin?) has told Rummy that knocking off Iran is going to be big trouble, but that Syria will be a cakewalk. And now that the war is over in Iraq (Elections, boss! Elections! Let Freedom Rain!), Rummy wants to find out what his neat new private SSB special forces can do. The Iranian stuff is only a head-fake. Syria's next.

The poor duped Syrians -- here they've been torturing CIA captives for Rummy and feeding him intelligence on the Iranians, and this is the thanks it gets them.

This is the international version of an orange terror alert. This is meant to be a warning to anyone still in opposition to Bu$hCo plans that this could happen to them - 'aid' terrorists by 'allowing' them to assassinate an economic bigwig, and Bu$hCo will militarily attack you for being responsible.

Domestically, with SS plans under attack by GOP allies, and with the Gannon scandal underway, and with 52 examples of Bu$hCo treason in failing to defend the nation against terror attack, something bigger than a change in alert pigmentation was necessary.

"We knew from the 'great victories' getting closer to Berlin that we were losing the war" - an ex-Nazi German national I used to work with.

Bu$hCo is almost in the bunker.

I've been reading the Jane Mayer article on "outsourcing terrorism" that's in the latest New Yorker. A question for me is why we are happy to "outsoruce" to them and also wanting to start a war with them?

"4 more wars", I mean "years". These people that call themselves our leaders are the biggest group of terrorists in our history. We are looking down the barrel of potential WWIII, folks.
The PNAC and its Master, the NWO are giddy and primed for further war and destruction. We have a weakened military with limited resources (with exception of nukes), the soldiers in Iraq are being nuked with D.U.(depleted uranium)by our own armchair warriors, home is being invaded by 1,0000,000s of illegals, treasury is being robbed, dollar is going down, and its only Feb.
. Another '9-11' in the works for the sheeple by the people that stand to gain the most?
China is not going to play ball.
Scary times ahead.

yet experts tell of global warning, and his response? Let's study it for a year or 5.
Posted by Sharon

Sherry..10,000 years ago North America was coverd with Ice. I guess we've been warming up for quite a longtime. Don't worry Sherry, 2500 more years and the trend reverses itself, the Ice will start to retun and you'll have to move. That damn BUSH!!
Pass this tidbit of info to your libs friends Sherry and remind them every 25,000 years to plan on relocating. Damn Bush!!
Chevy

"We knew from the 'great victories' getting closer to Berlin that we were losing the war" - an ex-Nazi German national I used to work with.

Pessimist, I hope the end is near but, I'm more pessimistic than you are. I fear we're closer to 1939 than 1945.

global warming is fact and science and not rumor like the Shrub would like the people to believe. Artic ice and Antarctic ice flows are melting at never before recorded rates.

Yo DEMS...I see your new appointed King stuck his foot in his mouth again denegrading the Black race with his racist remark about republicans using the whatver it was "Staff's Help" to equal the blacks the DEMS had at this place. LOL You sure know how to pick em. This story is gonna grow legs and piss a few Blacks off. Go Dean!!
God Bless GW Bush and his war on terror and democraps.

Chevy,

Why do you so enjoy revealing your incredible ignorance to everyone here?

global warming is fact and science Stu

Stu...Science is theory supported by lab tests. Not facts. The universe is expanding at an accelerated rate. Looks like Newtons and Einstein's laws on physics have some holes.
See any UFO's lately? Now here is a fact...GW Bush is YOUR president.
Chevy

Chevy,Why do you so enjoy revealing your incredible ignorance to everyone here?
Posted by muckcat

Glad to see you missed me. Haven't been on much as my other life responsibilities preclude me from doing so. I must admit, really miss busting balls in here, yours in particular.
Your Buddy,
Chevy

I think the Edsel watched a Nova or something recently and is attempting to impress us all with his intelligence. Golly, I'm impressed.

actually, I haven't but many have. Chemtrails I have seen. 9-11 was an inside job by those that were supposed to protect us. Now they look to invaded the rest of the world.
...and he's not my president. He stole it twice. I wouldnt fight for his lying ass, ever.
Science also takes experience into play.
The ice is melting, the waters are rising, the globe is warming, and thats the facts.

Laos? Is that you, Laos?

stu:

9-11 was an inside job by those that were supposed to protect us.

What, the evil Jews are supposed to protect us? You know, they were all told to stay away from the WTC that day.

I think we should sign the Kyoto Protocols the very same day China does.

My last post then i have to fly back to Sanford N.Carolina and teach a bunch of morons Master Data in SAP. They're not right in the head down there. That southern drawl is killing me, like talking to a bunch of tarts. I just know they're DEMS.
Just want you to know I met Hannity and Mark Levin at the Palisades Mall in NY the other day. They both did thier radio show there and Mark signed my book "Men in Black" Mark Levin is one brilliant man. The dude impressed me. Behave Libs..Take your Meds.

I think we impeach the group that took over the country and make REAL peace with the rest of the world. The BS may hit the fan if we continue to impart our empire ways.

I think we should sign the Kyoto Protocols the very same day China does. Toby

Actually, Toby has a good point. Because of globalization the amount of pollutiants coming out of China and some other nations have increased drastically. China has very lax pollution laws although I understand that they are slowly getting serious about their pollution problems, the Kyoto formula needs to be updated.

This bombing serves Bush, just as 9/11, just as the Bali Bombing and the timing is just perfect. As they are trying to make a case against Syria a convenient bombing takes place. Did you see the size of that hole? That was no car bomb. Time will tell, there will be plenty of exposes on this one and all roads will lead to the hired killers for the oil industry, the Bush Military Industrial Oil Cartel.

Seems we are talking like a bunch of old women.We should take strong action and take our country back.It is, very easy to cure America's thug and greed problems and sadily, Most of you don't know USA's sick problems.There was a time we thought by allowing too many chinese in,they would swamp our jobs and take over. Yes,we put limits on them but they were the wrong folks.
Now if Jews were not allowed to own news media and not allowed in any government jobs,then this land of ours would be safe and nice to live in.
jewish media tycoons need arresting and public hanging. They knew that the late President from Lebanon,2 days passing, he agreed to testify againist Sharon-as a war- criminal.
Seems the Zionist media does not want to go near this.--cause it connects Israel--Dommmies!

so, the israelis are using the 150,000 jewish kurds now living in israel to infiltrate and exploit the kurdish independence movement in kurdish iraq, with the eventual aim of gaining control of the 10 billion barrels of oil in the kirkuk oil field

the haywire thing is this: even though there is an existing pipeline lashup that would take the oil to haifa, the pipe goes through syria, and needs upgrading from the present 8" diameter, not to mention its deterioration from not having been used for 50 years. there is much discussion of overhauling the mosul/haifa pipeline.

THE ISRAELI AND ISRAELI/AMERICAN PUSH TO ATTACK SYRIA can be understood in the light of:

1) securing the pipeline route to haifa (israel imports more oil per capita than any country in the world, and the 10 billion barrels would last israel a hundred years at the present rate of consumption)

2) gaining control of 200 miles of the euphrates river that runs through syria, keeping in mind that israel is already so desperate for water it's making deals with turkey to build special tankers to haul fresh water from israeli-built dams in southeast turkey to israel

3) gaining land promised to israel by god..... this according to jewish religious lunatics, who are egged on by secular likud lunatics who, just in case global warming is the real deal, want some higher ground

4) syria is a customer of one of the original "axis of evil" countries, north korea, which has reportedly sold missiles to syria

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"We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality." http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=3822

Now here is a fact...GW Bush is YOUR president.

No. Not mine. I owe this moron no allegiance.

I met Hannity and Mark Levin

Hann-jobity and Liar Levin! If your three brains were beans you couldn't work up a good combined fart.

Master Data in SAP

Damn, you should sell that to the idiot son of George Bush. He can't integrate all the information either.

Ewwww. Something on this thread stinks....

Oh, it's Chevy and Toby.

In the Feb 15 edition of "Signs of the Times" they wrote this:

Mossad Murders Former Lebanese PM in Carbon Copy of 1979 Assassination

Let's face it, all of the hallmarks of a Mossad operation are there. [...] By all accounts, Hariri was one of the few "men of peace" left in the Middle East. In his two terms as Lebanese PM since 1990 he had brought Lebanon out of the carnage wrought by 15 years of civil war and set it well on the way to becoming once more the "Paris of the Middle East." As in the case of Iraq, Israel is determined to do whatever necessary to ensure that it remains all-powerful in the region and prevent any of its Arab neigbours from emerging as solid, unified Muslim democracies that it could not demonise as "terrorist states". By murdering Hariri and having the blame pinned on Syria, the Mossad have removed a stablising influence on recovering Lebanese society and the Middle East in general, and given the US government an excuse to further ratchet up the war rhetoric towards Damascus.

In this sense, Israel shares a common goal with the US and it is for this reason that Israel has always enjoyed the overwhelming support of successive US administrations. While the US and Israel both make much of their bogus "war on terrorism", both countries have long since realised that it is by fomenting "terrorism" and "terrorist" groups that their control of the Middle East can be assured. Yet, while both countries share a common goal, the reasons that each desires to achieve that goal are slightly different.

By controlling the extensive oil resources in the Middle East (and the countries that sit upon them), the US can ensure that it continues to top the heap of world superpowers. Israel too wishes to remain as a powerful world player, and its leaders realise that acting as a hired thug for the US in the region is the best way to do so. Yet it is more than mere power lust that is driving Israel's leaders to deliberately antagonise and provoke the entire Arab world. Israel's very presence in the Middle East is predicated on the Judaic notion of a "chosen people" and their very own homeland granted to them thousands of years ago by their mythical god, yahweh.

While it may be possible (if unlikely) to make a convincing geopolitical argument for the US government's Middle East policies over the years, to understand the thinking of people like Sharon and all those that act on his orders, one would have to first embrace as legitimate the idea that a group of human beings can constitute a "chosen people", one of their lives being worth more than 1,000 of the lives of the "lesser" people of the world. One would also have to accept that the "chosen people" are divinely entitled to a piece of land in the Middle East and that they are permitted therefore to act in any way necessary to achieve their goals of lebensraum. While the Israeli government is careful to distance itself from extreme Judaic beliefs, it is clear that it is just such beliefs that underpin its policies.

Religious and political incentives aside, one of the strongest indications of an Israeli involvement in the murder of Hariri is the fact that not ONE mainstream news source is even mentioning the possibility of Israeli involvement, when it is painfully clear that Israel has the most to gain from his death. But then again, we have become accustomed to the severe lack of intestinal fortitude or any real journalistic integrity on the part of the mainstream media. And also to the fact that much of the Western press is dominated by Israeli sympathisers and/or "Zionists".

You might consider reading Signs of the Times daily. . .

Smlls lk schwtz n hr.

Ran,

"how many innocent Syrians and GIs are you ready to see killed to "destabilize the Republican party"?"

As many as it takes. If 50K dead Americans was the tipping point in Vietnam, population growth would suggest we may need to kill 75K Americans now, but I think that's a big pessimistic. I think that the American hide was made thinner by Vietnam (and now the failings in Iraq), so we might get a change in the electorate with only 10K dead.

"Let's have no more bullshit wars please."

On the contrary, we need a lot more. Only when the bible belt idiots see coffins stacked up on the sidewalk in front of their house are they going to realize how completely fucked they've been by this president. Reason is never going to reach these people - only blood counts. So let's have a river of it.

The US will never achieve anything like political sanity until the tit-for-tat insinuations about Jews, Zionists, Nazis, Auschwitz, and so on ad infinitum are brought to a halt in favor of objective analysis. However, instead of that happening, the opposite is happening : holocaustianity is being exported as the new global religion. What I mean by that is that holocaust imagery is being used in the way that the genuinely religious imagery of death, resurrection, purgatory, and hell were used in the hey-day of Christianity. This criticism has been voiced even by prominent Orthodox Rabbis, so don't tell me I'm being 'anti-semitic' for mentioning it. Just for a start, people could try detecting the standard 'anti-anti-semitic' rhetorical tactic in the exchanges above - it is the exaggerated comparison, as when [x] says the media in the USA are largely owned by Jewish investors and [y] replies, yeah, and they are drinking the blood of christian babies too, aren't they?

Hi, I'm English, you know, one of Bu$h Ltd lackey countries. We love being told what to do. Help invade here, help invade their, follow your economic policies, etc. Well, we just can't wait to help you destroy Syria (and loose lots of British soliders lives - job creation you know - lots of new recruits) and after that we can enjoy the spoils, contracts and crumbs you offer us. Limey xx

Why has seeing the Bush Administration jump to such a conclusion look a little bit premature and all too convenient?

Because when you have the demented mind of a leftie you instantly jump to the wrong conclusions and expect the worst of the wrong side.

colin powell to address the united nations shortly..to explain that the yellowcake really came from syria..has satellite photos of a truck that is carrying biological weapons..bill clinton let it all happen and if we don't do something about it soon there will be a gazillion mushroom clouds all over the world..maybe even in your own back yard...but fear not cause freedom is on the march so they can just bring it on...condi is on the job that alone makes me feel safe...she did such a bang up job in national security...georgie's world..what a place

Al Qaeda/Syrian government..... hmmmm..... only a fine line dividing them to be truthful.

Lebenon is about as popular as Israel with arabs. Why? Because it's the second closest thing on the peninsula to a western democracy and it's a damn sight more secular.
The arab muslims don't like that, they like things to be kept nice and absolutist.

oh yeah i forgot...al quada ties to syria...they know secret breakfast meetings (buffet style)were held in damascus years ago between bin laden and the now deceased hassad....comes from our own cia intelligence..slam dunk style...great thing about these past few years is that the whole world sees us for the straight shooters that we are and will undoubtably believe anything we say....and god forbid if have to have another premptive war we can rest assured that if any of our soldiers are captured they will be treated in the same way we treat theirs....makes you feel good inside just knowing that..

Is al Hariri going to be for Syria what the AMD were for Saddam?

Dennis,
What, like they gave any hostages they captured 5 star hotels to stay in for the duration of their life (before decapitation and after torture.... real torture that is, not making them wear undies on their heads) before the pictures our own media revealed to the world???
They treat their hostages like shit and always have, perhaps because their poet koran tells them too (they wouldn't breath if it said they couldn't). So maybe it's a case of our troops treating captured terrorists how they have earnt to be treated, and much more mercifully than they treat theirs.... and no crap about one of them died (good riddance to bad rubbish), all of their hostages die.... including civilians, aid workers, journalists and allsorts of other non-military personel.

The syrian government and Al Qaeda are all soldiers in the same jihad against the west.
Why is it that you assume these people are capable of know wrong. What is it with you, that as soon as muslims are accused of something you feel the need to defend them , like it couldn't possibly be true, because muslims are all good (thats far more extreme than saying they're all evil... which BTW I've never said, just their religion...okay?)? It's so fucked up, yet as soon as christians are mentioned, and for emphasis by the same "right-wing" media you accuse of being bias when it's your beloved extremist killers in the limelight there's a thousand post long thread on sites akin to this about the evils of christianity, and comparisons between Bush, the Christian Crusades and Nazis. What tickles me though is that you'd think anyone so anti-religion and skeptical/critical/cynical would be as uncompromising towards islam, but no, you're swept off your feet by every deception and apologist cover-up, you deny the meaning of koranic texts (and compare it to christianity..... chalk and cheese anyone?), and still can't seem to nail the even closer comparisons between the nazis ,christian crusaders and islamic jihadists.

Lets have a little consistancy folks,if you're atheist lefties you're either anti-religion, or you're just anti-christian bigots (or lying toads who defend islam and critisize christianity as part of your over-blown anti-Bush agenda..... fucking drama queens) .

Most muslims are not nice people, they hate us because we're not muslims, I can't put it any simpler than that, no matter how much you defend them in the face of overwhelming evidence to refute that defence, they will still hate you. Just because you're Bush-loathing lefties does not mean you are under an obligation to deny there is anything dangerous about the religion of islam, you are entitled to freedom of speech for that subject as well, and just because you click on to how truely twisted a cult islam is does not make you any less liberal than you were beforehand. Aren't you "all about" freedom of speech?

I concur w/ cali_, historically it now seems (there was an article on informationclearinghouse, but is now gone), the west has been complicit in such measures.

End Days huh? Self-fulfilling prophecy.

"Smells like Auschwitz in here."

Then why do you show up everyday? Yes you bookmarked this site. Educating us? Can't do that thru an autotresponder filled with prerecorded stale phrases. One day you may even contribute something useful. Doubtful but we can hope.

Syria this morning woke up to a new
best friend

Their new best friend brought their new best friend China.

BTW I agree with Toby about China signing the Kyoto treaty. They're polluting pretty good and nobody is riding them about it. Is that why Bush pulled out? Nope. He did it because BigBiz told him too.

Lebenon is about as popular as Israel with arabs. Why? Because it's the second closest thing on the peninsula to a western democracy and it's a damn sight more secular.

Where should I start?

a. Lebanon is a very popular tourist destination for Arabs. If it were not liked, not many would spend their vacations there.
b. I have lots of Lebanese friends and co-workers, and no one complained of being victims of envy due to your so-called 'reasons'. This is just a figment of your imagination.
c. Lebanon is actually the cause of sympathy to many Arabs due to the destructive 15 year civil war it had endured. It caused lots of death and destruction, and many Lebanese families left their country at the time due to it.
d. Thanks to Sharon's daily trampling on human rights and total disregard for human lives, no country (yes, "even" Lebanon) is in any danger whatsoever of being hated as much as Israel. Democracy (secular or otherwise) does not cause hate, but injustice and senseless killing do (If Americans Knew).
e. What does your statement have to do with Hariri's unfortunate killing?

The arab muslims don't like that, they like things to be kept nice and absolutist.

So you say to people who don't know (being an Arab Muslim, I would know). And what we don't like is any senseless killing and outright lying (e.g. what the current US government is doing). Muslims really like American people, but not their government.

Quite strange for a democratic country :)

excerpts: blah blah Most muslims are not nice people blah blah

K.A, do you always give opinions on topics you know NOTHING about? Your opinions about Islam show real and absolute ignorance! You show so many logical mistakes (and even in grammar and spelling) that really prove how much (or rather, how little) you know. I will not waste my time on you because you have proven you're not worth it, but just a note: in Islam's view, we're all equal where we have the same father, Adam. What separates us are our deeds to mankind. Islam is a religion for all, not for a certain race or creed. Just because your controlled "free" media links what some idiots do to Islam, that does not make the link true!

Of course, I doubt you are really interested in that. You are more interested in creating misconceptions about Muslims and Arabs through your posts. I suggest to stop visiting KKK and neo-con sites, and most importantly, lay off talking about Islam since you are not qualified to speak about it.

To anyone who is interested in knowing the truth about Islam, there are many places you can contact. One place I can suggest is the Zaytuna Institute.

Thankfully, most other people here are of much greater intelligence. For that, I thank them for their time, efforts and intelligent opinions.

Signing out.

NMH

that was a pretty big explosion - suitcase nuke, anyone?

The PNAC plan, which is still very alive, calls for taking over the Middle East...the order in which those countries are destroyed does not matter. Picking off the weak ones first would be a sound strategy. Save the tough one with a real army and big weapons for last. PNAC has already bagged Afgan and Iraq and Kuwait. The War on Terror is actually a War on Islam/Muslims/Arabs. Its a Christian Crusade against infidels on one level, world domination on another. Read the PNAC book, it's all there. And the people running our government wrote it. All they needed was a galvanizing event to put it in motion.

Why Is The Bush Administration Quickly Fingering Syria For Yesterday's Assassination In Lebanon?

Cuz Canada has an alibi????

We were watchin' American Idol, eh! -Canada

Cuz Canada has an alibi????

Good one muckdog.

How does the White House know Syria was behind the Beirut bombing? Simple, really : Hugh Orde,(the top cop who has been able to blame the IRA for the £26M bank job in Belfast , whilst apparently unable to lay a hand on any perps,vehicles or money),told them!

What is funny about all of this, not that what happened the other day is funny, but I find that it is strange that the White House is demanding that the Syrian troops leave Lebanon, like now. But has no problem allowing the Israelis to stay in occupied Palestine.

T2, your right about the PNAC / neo-con middle-east take over strategy to further US global dominance but it was also written about by non-PNACer Zbigniew Brzezinski's in his The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives. He's backed off this idea (for good reasons) in recent books but if you want to see some details and rational then take a look. This is just a FYI and I DO NOT support any of this proto-Nazi PNAC type crap.

Okay I am Ricardo, as someone yesterday sussed out (the K.A stands for "Kinetic Atom , the name I used at Talk Left, and "Koncerned Amerikan" which I use at GGF).

The reason I used a different name and pretended to be american (well I have been living here for 3 months if that counts) is because there are quite a few anti-Ricardo's here, so I thought, I'll try posting under a different name and being civil and see if I'm treated with a little more respect than I was before.
But no, because I held non-leftist views, I was instantly categorized as "idiot....ect".
Sorry but I'm not an idiot, I got As and Bs in every subject at school and I do writing and art at home as a hobby and at colledge.... I hear retards struggle with such passtimes...

Anyway enough of my life-story, look people the reason I come here, if I'm honest is despite you sometimes being the most obnoxious bunch of idiots I've come across, you amuse me, and I actually find myself liking some of you in spite of myself (because like it or not, we're all part of the same species..... I've walked into an insult there haven't I???).
I am british,as I say I've spent some time in the states but I am returning home, I just want to say you really ought to be proud of your country, I know you hate Bush, but Bush isn't america, he's just one person in it.... yes I know he's a doufus and I'd rather just about anybody be in charge than him, but I couldn't bare the thought of the niave , good-willed left running things. I know you folks aren't bad, in fact you're all pretty much angels compared to me.... but you're just too trusting, and skeptical of the wrong people.

I'd like to apologise for all of my insults to everyone here.... sincerly. Muck Cat and Soccerdad, you guys are top anyway, Judith you can be bitchy but you're genuinely sweet sometimes too, Duckman, I love the cartoon you're named after (but he's far zaneir.... be more zany.... like me!!!) paradox, clever mutha, always leaving me wanting to write an essay in return/vengeance.
And of course Chevy, Bendito , Right-Coaster, Muck-dog and Toby.... my only allies in a sea of hostility (on this site anyway, on other sites I'm the top-dog.... and yes you sarcastic fucks it is interlectual!!!)

One more rant going out to NMH, you are greatly mistaken if you think I know nothing about islam.... I know too much about it, which is why I even believe you are being deceitful in your response to me..... I'm mixed race, my mother white britsh, my father is an arab..... I'm an apostate and happy to be one (never will I join any cult or religion ; science explains it all good enough for me).

Anyway folks, no hard feelings huh??? Sorry for being such an unbeatable-in-debate kinda guy!!!