Delay is corrupt to the core. Unravel him and you soon will have a gateway into the corrupt machinery of the Rethuglican party. Hammer the Hammer folks.

Delay is corrupt to the core. Unravel him and you soon will have a gateway into the corrupt machinery of the Rethuglican party. Hammer the Hammer folks.

Yep.

while reading about this latest bit of news this morning it made me think to myself "why don't we have term limits again"? Is there a particular reason/argument why we don't have one term limits for senators and house members, or other politicians. I'm honestly asking, because it appears as if it would be a least helpful to keep these folks from thinking that they could make a living using the government to their advantage?

I realize that this would cut both ways, but perhaps it's time.

I know that 18 states have limits, but why isn't it more widely adopted?

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." -- Plato

Is there a particular reason/argument why we don't have one term limits for senators and house members, or other politicians.

The big argument is that it takes experience out of government. In fact, having seen limits work in this state, it seems to spread the wealth around by sending new pigs to the trough. You do, on occaision, get some fresh ideas.

Seems de rigueur that when a Texan Pol dries out they become a sort of old testament Christian peculiar to Texas and the rest of the south. Bush and Delay are such; both dried out drunks, mean, and small minded.

Simple solutions appeal to simple folks, thus the appeal of term limits. In practice, it takes several years to become a knowledgeable, proficient legislator. With term limits you get the equivalent of this bunch of single issue jerks we have now. They don't understand government, science, economics or business. So what good are they? With term limits, the concern becomes one of lining up your next gig, e.g., lobbying and for that you need grease a few axles.

The GOP is forming a small but visible line to cut DeLay loose.

Too bad. We needed him around for 06.

I know that 18 states have limits, but why isn't it more widely adopted?

Because a state that institutes term limits is at a disadvantage when cutting appropriations deals. Because seniority plays a large role in committee assignments, a term-limited congressperson never gets into the position to cut the deals that bring home nice, juicy slabs of pork.

As several posters have already pointed out, DeLay is the benchmark of today's GOP. Sure, some people in the GOP are trying to make him look like the exception, not the rule. Not because they really believe he's an outlier, on the contrary, because they know he is the true face of the GOP. Don't let the argument that it's just the "leadership" of the GOP that DeLay epitomizes...bunk...he is where he is because he represents the mentality of a large portion of the Party. A minority of GOP are the ones aghast at his behavior. But if that minority stays home in 06, then the party has a problem.

... when they are called to account for their hypocrises, lies, and moral bankruptcy.

Didn't the Senate just pass some changes to the moral bankruptcy laws?

I generally just skip these blog entries. For all the GOP members you claim are full of "hypocrises, lies, and moral bankruptcy," there are Republicans who say the same about Dems Boxer, Pelosi, Kerry, et al.

I think most Americans are at the point they just ignore these comments, because they seem to be fueled by partisan hatred rather than clear thinking.

thanks for the feedback all. appreciated.

The very intellegent people know that," In politics nothing happens by accident.If it happened,you can bet it was planned that way."
Franklin D. Roosevelt. And the secret is to know why.

I think most Americans are at the point they just ignore these comments, because they seem to be fueled by partisan hatred rather than clear thinking.
I don’t think so, they are waking up.
The Raw Story

Cali, great line by Plato. I agree. This Country may be ready to embrace term limits and a third party presidential candidate.

There you go, Judith. Nadar 2008!

Moveon.org is circulating this petition. If you are interested, cut and paste and sign.

It is time to fire Tom DeLay as House Majority Leader. Please sign our petition urging Congress to remove DeLay from his leader post at the link below.

http://www.moveonpac.org/delay/?id=5322-3876511-5BvaP.hG.AEXIls0b0R.sA&t=1

As the chorus of opposition grows louder, it is important to show that this isn't just a power struggle in Washington but that, in fact, millions of Americans share the same concerns about DeLay's pattern of repeated corruption.

"folks who feed at the trough of government and politics be exposed as a textbook case of enriching himself and his family from doing the same thing."

Yes and Ive never understood how it is ingrained into the conservative wing of the Republican Party to condemn a welfare mother for accepting help, but feed like pigs, themselves at the whatever trough they can find. And think to themselves, that they have any kind of moral fiber whatsoever.
And as Muckdog says, they sit back hoping that:
"most Americans are at the point they just ignore these comments, because they seem to be fueled by partisan hatred"
Thats the pity of it. The sleazy way they slough off their moral terpitude by inferring they are being attacked.
But this all seems to be endemic in Republican Conservative thinking.