Theater of the absurd? The only defense is laughter.
Posted by Gail Davis at April 21, 2005 07:08 PMit was part of the deal.
Posted by T2 at April 21, 2005 07:28 PMThe times may not be a changin' yet
But they're getting darn interesting!
Well, or course we have to protect Osama his rights. He is a Bush family friend.
Posted by Judith at April 21, 2005 07:43 PMremember the bin Laden family got flown out of the US on 9/11 despite the total lock down of flights-- oh wait, was that a conspiracy theory?
Posted by michelle at April 21, 2005 08:03 PMAn FOIA request for US government pay-stubs or other payments to OBL between January 2001 and the present could produce some interesting results.
Posted by Brian Boru at April 21, 2005 09:52 PMSorry, this is off subject, but I am dismayed at the Democrats response to the following information coming from Move On. We will be passing out flyers to our neighbors and calling our Senators. We can never win with that kind of response.
This weekend, Republican Senate leader Bill Frist will speak at a far-right rally where speakers will portray "Democrats as 'against people of faith' for blocking President Bush's [judicial] nominees." Hundreds of right-wing groups are pushing their members to be even more involved. The conservative group Progress for America announced today they're raising $5 million to run pro-"nuclear option" ads.
This is an out and out assault on Democrats. I am so angry that Frist would f*cking dare to protray "Democrats as against people of faith."
Go right ahead you motherf*cker, and see what happens when the majority of sane and rationale people hear your filth. Frist you are a very sick sick man. These are the very same people who burned innocents at the stakes.
By-the-way Mr. President, where is Osama? I am beginning to think that part of the deal was to protect him from capture.
Posted by Judith at April 21, 2005 11:28 PMJust the fact that we apparently hold “personnel and medical files and similar files” on Osama says a lot.
Posted by mamayaga at April 22, 2005 04:54 AMYeah ludicrous isn't it that a murdering religious lunatics rights are given precedance over the US publics right to know what happened???
Thats exactly how most britons feel about the UK left demanding the UK government uphold the civil rights of terrorist scum caught plotting to kill thousands of our people, plotting the destruction of our civilization ; while seemingly indifferent to the "civil rights" of normal law abiding citizens , to be protected from such violent monsters.
The US left are no better:
We hear you rambling on about the civil rights of POW terrorists in Gitmo when not a thought is spared for the danger you're putting your own troops under by demanding their release.
Maybe now you'll learn to get your own priorities right , before you jump to the defense of terrorists, demanding human rights for people who have no respect for our right to live in safety from religious nutcases.
Posted by Ricardo at April 22, 2005 05:40 AMWe hear you rambling on about the civil rights of POW terrorists in Gitmo when not a thought is spared for the danger you're putting your own troops under by demanding their release.
Ricardo,
Demanding their release? You are a fucking turd. How about demanding due process? That's what most people in this country would expect. Not people being held indefinitely without due process and without ever being charged with any crime.
Maybe now you'll learn to get your own priorities right , before you jump to the defense of terrorists, demanding human rights for people who have no respect for our right to live in safety from religious nutcases.
See here's where your problem is. And every comment you make here just illustrates it more clearly. "Demanding human rights, no, expecting human rights to be respected as a matter of course, without question in all circumstances is our priority. It obviously is not your priority. Nor is it the priority of the terrorists. So who is more like the terrorists? You, who emulate them, or those of us who seek to maintain those aspects of civilized society that set us apart from them?
Posted by muckcat at April 22, 2005 06:39 AMAs far as protecting information on Osama from becoming available to the public I'm not so sure I have a problem with it at the moment. He is a very wanted, apparently very hard to find, individual. If I were the Justice Department or the DoD I think I'd be very interested in keeping as much info about him as possible under wraps. Osama may be evil but he's obviously not stupid. He's going to know that anything we know about him is a liability for him. If he knows what we know he can do his best to use that knowledge to his advantage.
Anyone who believes that George Bush has some interest in protecting Osama bin Laden at this point is misguided in my opinion. The day the guy is confirmed dead or in custody go ahead and release everything you have on him. Perhaps there are some embarrassing items in there that people would rather not have come out but I doubt it's anything that can't wait until that time.
Posted by at April 22, 2005 07:20 AMWhat would we really do with Osama if we caught him? The head of the FBI has already said there isn't enough(any) evidence to convict him for the 9/11 attacks. This is all just another small release of smoke to try to make us all forget about how many people are dying in Iraq EVERYDAY!
Posted by ohscottyboy at April 22, 2005 07:47 AMIt obviously is not your priority. Nor is it the priority of the terrorists. So who is more like the terrorists? You, who emulate them, or those of us who seek to maintain those aspects of civilized society that set us apart from them?
Muckcat,
I heartlily agree we should be proud of our civilized ways here in the good old west , and I'm all for the our rights being exercized, but I don't see why people who seek the total destruction of western civilization, who have no concept of human rights themselves, should be entitled to the same ..... different rules should be applied. I'm not saying we should get islamic on their asses and bury them in the ground up to their necks and pelt rocks at them until their skulls are but masses of squelchy pulp, but at least make potential future terrorists think twice about killing our people.
Of course try them , but surely terrorists and unlawful combatants should be kept locked up on a minimum of evidence (unlawful combatants highly unlikely to be anything else , terrorists usually caught in the act of some dastardly deed or another) and in undesireable conditions. So they don't have their own private shower in their cells , but they're treated with a damn sight more mercy than they ever treat their prisoners with (even the ones who got kickings).
We want our enemies to fear getting caught, otherwise why are our troops risking their lives to arrest them if they're just going to be freed because there's "not enough evidence", and even the ones who stay locked up show potential future terrorists " Oh look , if we get caight by western troops we get a cushy lawyer acting in our defence, and they can't even so much as chop our hands off.... crazy system these soft westerners have got, back home a kid gets his limbs sawn off for stealing an apple , yet I kill people and get western uni-students protesting for my release!!!".
See my point??? Not bad for a "turd" huh???
Posted by Ricardo at April 23, 2005 04:58 AMShockingly there was no response from Muck Cat who was busy finding new ways to oppose his country.
Posted by Ricardo at April 26, 2005 06:15 AM