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[Editor: ignore=off]Go enlist Bendito. Your Dear Leader needs rubes like you.
Posted by Steve Soto at June 18, 2005 10:44 PMFor others who are not in the ideological camp that Bendito (or should that be Benedict Arnold as he seems to be so anti-American?), the US is absolutely required to abide by their treaties according to the US Constitution.
ARTICLE VI of the Constitution says:
1. All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this constitution, as under the confederation.
2. This constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, any thing in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.
3. The senators and representatives before-mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.
Bendito, which part of the Constitution have you been given the right to ignore? Same question for those bastards in the White House who are breaking the laws that we, the people, put in place.
Bush has broken his oath of office. For that alone, he should be impeached.
Posted by Mary at June 18, 2005 10:55 PMIf only the Democrats had stood up to Bush and showed a little spine and at least one ball. Oh, the humanity.
Although now that I think about it, if the Dems are responsible for letting Bush get away with everything he's gotten away with, why isn't the progressive left responsible for letting the Dems let Bush get away with everything he's gotten away with? I mean, isn't that fair? Shouldn't we all really lay the failings of this country on that 15% of the population?
Posted by Fair Play at June 19, 2005 12:34 AMNEWT says it BEST!!!!
This BLOG is perfect to READ about the TREASONOUS LIBS/democRATS!!
The more you speak, the closer WE get to 60 SEATS and the democRATS becoming a PERMANENT MINORITY PARTY!!!
Former Speaker Newt Gingrich sent the following letter to all U.S. Senators today:
Dear Senator _______________:
By his statements equating American treatment of suspected terrorists at Guantanamo Bay with the behavior of the evil regimes of Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, and Pol Pot’s Cambodia, Senator Richard Durbin has dishonored the United States and the entire U.S. Senate. Only by a vote to censure Senator Durbin for his conduct can the U.S. Senate restore its dignity and defend American honor.
Senator Durbin’s comparison, sadly, is despicable.
U.S. Senators should be clear about the gravity of Senator Durbin’s comparison. Nine million innocent human beings were murdered in Hitler’s death camps, nearly three million perished in the gulags under Stalin, and more than one and a half million were slaughtered in the killing fields of Cambodia at the hand of Pol Pot. And while not a single terrorist has died in detention at Guantanamo, Senator Durbin sees fit to liken our American service men and women to the terrifying murderers of three evil despotic regimes.
Moreover, Senator Durbin equates the terrorist detainees at Guantanamo with the millions of innocent men, women, and children exterminated by the order of evil dictators. The fact that he did so as a high ranking member of the Senate on the Senate floor makes his comparison all the more shocking.
This moral equivalence isn’t just utterly false; it endangers the lives of our young men and women in the military because it arms every radical Islamist with the official-record words of a Senate leader to justify their war of terror against civilized people everywhere.
Senator Durbin’s statement of “regret” on Friday has only compounded the need for the Senate to act. In it, Senator Durbin said that “I have learned from my statement that historical parallels can be misused and misunderstood. I sincerely regret if what I said caused anyone to misunderstand my true feelings…” Incredibly, Senator Durbin is sticking to his original assertion that there is indeed, in his own words, an “historic parallel” between U.S. soldiers at Guantanamo Bay and the killers under Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot. In other words, his only regret is that Americans don’t understand his misreading of history and that he has caused us to misunderstand him. Offering no apology for the original slanderous statement itself, Senator Durbin has chosen instead to actually defend his comparisons. This defense makes his original speech all the more revolting.
It’s one thing for one Senator to endanger young Americans and defame America; it would be the shame of the Senate if the other 99 senators did not stand up to defend America and to defend the reputation of our young men and women in uniform.
A Senate censure of Senator Durbin is justified and would reaffirm a standard for healthy, rational debate. By voting for or against the censure, the rest of the members of the U.S. Senate can go on record and make clear how they judge Senator Durbin’s characterization of American soldiers. It will also send a clear message to terrorists who will use the words of a Senate leader against us that the Senate stands in support of America and our military and against those who seek to destroy the free people of the United States.
There is historic precedent for censuring Senators whose words bring dishonor and disrepute on the Senate and impair its dignity; Senator Durbin’s words fit that precedent.
In this case, expressing outrage is not enough. It is time for the Senate to act. Senator Durbin must be censured now.
Sincerely,
Newt Gingrich
Posted by ROOF at June 19, 2005 02:35 AMLOL! Newt Gingrich, the disgraced former house leader, honestly, no one cares what he has to say. Anytime Newt speaks, it's good for Dem's. Newt has helped us win a lot of races and really helped Bill Clinton get reelected in a landslide. Keep talkin' Newt!
Posted by ga6thdem at June 19, 2005 03:19 AMDear Senator _______________:
By his statements equating American treatment of suspected terrorists at Guantanamo Bay with the behavior of the evil regimes of Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, and Pol Pot’s Cambodia, Senator Richard Durbin has dishonored the United States and the entire U.S. Senate. Only by a vote to censure Senator Durbin for his conduct can the U.S. Senate restore its dignity and defend American honor.
Hey...despot is what despot does. If Newt had any honor, which he doesn't, he would be demanding we quit doing this shit and thereby eliminate the apperance of our running a "gulag nation"
Senator Durbin’s comparison, sadly, is despicable.
No, what is despicable is dumping on your cancer ridden wife with another women then serving her with divorce papers.Senator Durbin just pointed out the truth. I know for a Republican that is like garlic top a vampire, but that is not our problem.
U.S. Senators should be clear about the gravity of Senator Durbin’s comparison. Nine million innocent human beings were murdered in Hitler’s death camps, nearly three million perished in the gulags under Stalin, and more than one and a half million were slaughtered in the killing fields of Cambodia at the hand of Pol Pot. And while not a single terrorist has died in detention at Guantanamo, Senator Durbin sees fit to liken our American service men and women to the terrifying murderers of three evil despotic regimes.
Heh, were better than Hitler! And here we go with the everyone that is at Gitmo is a terrorist meme. If we are so sure of that, why not have some trials? Plus as usaul, thats not what Durbin said. But of course Wingnuts can't do nuance.....it makes their head hurt.
Moreover, Senator Durbin equates the terrorist detainees at Guantanamo with the millions of innocent men, women, and children exterminated by the order of evil dictators. The fact that he did so as a high ranking member of the Senate on the Senate floor makes his comparison all the more shocking.
Same bullshit, different wording. Sophmoric trick to make this screed seem like it has more substance. Of course when InSanatoruem makes nazi remarks then IOKIYAR.
This moral equivalence isn’t just utterly false; it endangers the lives of our young men and women in the military because it arms every radical Islamist with the official-record words of a Senate leader to justify their war of terror against civilized people everywhere.
No, throwing over the Geneva Convention, and establishing a gulag archepelgo is what endangers the lives of our service people. And starting illegal wars, leaving ammo dumps unguarded, and going in with insufficiant troops aint so great either.
Senator Durbin’s statement of “regret†on Friday has only compounded the need for the Senate to act. In it, Senator Durbin said that “I have learned from my statement that historical parallels can be misused and misunderstood. I sincerely regret if what I said caused anyone to misunderstand my true feelings…†Incredibly, Senator Durbin is sticking to his original assertion that there is indeed, in his own words, an “historic parallel†between U.S. soldiers at Guantanamo Bay and the killers under Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot. In other words, his only regret is that Americans don’t understand his misreading of history and that he has caused us to misunderstand him. Offering no apology for the original slanderous statement itself, Senator Durbin has chosen instead to actually defend his comparisons. This defense makes his original speech all the more revolting.
Much sound and fury signifying nothing. What Senator Durbin says in so many words is that he realizes Republican blowhards will twist and misquote anything. He means he regrats he wasn't able to distill a complicated message into the 15 second soundbite needed to hold the average Republicans thought train. The fact that he doesn't apologize for the original concept ought to be a clue, but once again, Wingnuts don't do nuance.
It’s one thing for one Senator to endanger young Americans and defame America; it would be the shame of the Senate if the other 99 senators did not stand up to defend America and to defend the reputation of our young men and women in uniform.
oh nice.......talk about winning friends. I think Newt just pissed off a bunch of senators who realy dont care for house rep has-bens giving them lectures.
A Senate censure of Senator Durbin is justified and would reaffirm a standard for healthy, rational debate. By voting for or against the censure, the rest of the members of the U.S. Senate can go on record and make clear how they judge Senator Durbin’s characterization of American soldiers. It will also send a clear message to terrorists who will use the words of a Senate leader against us that the Senate stands in support of America and our military and against those who seek to destroy the free people of the United States.
Could this be anymore of an example of fearmongering and jingoism. Since the original premise is bullshit, then by extension this whole plea is bullshit.
There is historic precedent for censuring Senators whose words bring dishonor and disrepute on the Senate and impair its dignity; Senator Durbin’s words fit that precedent.
There is predecent for bringing a criminal enterprise up on RICO charges too. Which is pretty much the whole Republican cash machine at this point. Doesn't mean its going to happen. But that would do more to restore our honor and integrety more than anything Newt is proposing.
Oh, and quit freaking torturing prisoners. Why is this such a hard concept for these idiots to understand.
In this case, expressing outrage is not enough. It is time for the Senate to act. Senator Durbin must be censured now.
My sentiments exactly, except the last sentance should read "The whole Bush adminstration should be impeached now."
Sincerely,
Newt Gingrich
Thats a lie....Newt has never been sincere in his whole life.
In short, a tired peice of drivel from a washed up un-ethicaal has been.
Yawn.
Newt Gingrich is a lying adulterous fool in other words roof's true lover. Enjoy roof cause Newt
will be bent over and sodomized by other republicans on the stampde to the republican nomination
I find it interesting and typical that a certain someone claims the UN has no authority, yet also often cites that Saddam Hussein was not in compliance with UN resolutions as a reason the US was legally allowed to invade the country.
Legal is as national interests dictate.
Paging Mr. Machiavelli...paging Mr. Machiavelli. You ARE a dominionist, correct?
NEWT says it BEST!!!!
You still have no clue why Newtie had to leave the House, do you? He violated one of the two cardinal rules: Never get caught with a dead woman or a live boy. Pick one. I'll let you know if you're correct.
Oh yeah. He also put his claptrap on House Speaker stationary. Seems he was impersonating a holder of public office.
Posted by phidipides at June 19, 2005 07:06 AMYeah, Durbin's career is over. Once again, the Democrats are playing this game of "lets see how many times we can shoot ourselves in the foot" coming up on the next election cycle. Dean is shooting off his mouth, and not wasting any time, Durbin goes loony. If that's the best the Democrats can do, it won't be pretty in 2006 for you guys.
Posted by muckdog at June 19, 2005 09:19 AMLOL Muck,
Keep living in that fantasy world. Jr. has approval ratings in the low fourties, heading to the thirties and the GOP congress has approval ratings in the, what, twenties?
Durbin toast? LOL, hardly, besides he's not up for reelection until 2008 and if IL is as conservative as you seem to think, then Alan Keyes would have won in a landslide in 2004!
Really, why do you continue to make a fool of yourself?
Posted by ga6thdem at June 19, 2005 09:43 AMBush Supporters, Your Country needs you. You voted for him. Go fight his war and send your kids.
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Posted by Monica at June 19, 2005 09:48 AMNaaah, Steve. See, internashunal treeties, we can just pull out whenever we want. I mean, this is AMURIKA! We don't follow no internashunal law.
That millions did not demonstrate in anger when Chimpy unilaterally discarded the Geneva Conventions, was all the proof I needed to conclude that America is destined to be the Weimar Republic of the 21st Century.
Any doubt was resolved once and for all when I actually heard people DEFENDING the torture by American Servicemen of their prisoners at Camp X Ray and elsewhere, by describing the food service provided. This disgusting excuse for humanity places us squarely in the ranks (and I do mean, "rank") of Hitler. And quite frankly, fuck anyone who is offended by that.
And. . . if the ONLY thing you can think of to distinguish what the U.S. is doing to its prisoners in concentration ...uhm... prison camps from what Hitler did is to point out the difference in numbers or torture technique, then ask yourself if torture is really acceptable to you so long as its a matter of mere degree.
I am so choked with rage at the barbarism and the encouragement by cowardly commanding officers of their subordinates that anything goes and "what goes on in ____ stays in ____". This type of shameless and outrageous moral abandon only seeks to make the illegal, leagal. Hitler did the same thing.
But morally bankrupt conduct is morally bankrupt conduct.
Torture is torture.
A whitewash is a whitewash.
Truth is true whether you believe it or not and whether it offends you or not.
We ARE the new Weimar Republic.
Shame on all of us.
I am not even by the decrepit level of ignorance of any historical context by those who do not recognize that humanity has been here, done that. Are we to keep doing the same things again and again?
That's the definition of insanity.
Posted by marblex at June 19, 2005 10:29 AMga6, maybe you missed the 2002 and 2004 election results. They kind of run counter to your constant year-after-year banter about how the GOP is doomed.
Posted by muckdog at June 19, 2005 11:03 AMSo when does Newt draft a letter about Rick Santorum?
Posted by DZ at June 19, 2005 02:08 PMSilly muck,
Just because something happened in 2002 & 2004 doesn't mean that it will happen in 2006. Study some political history, you silly rabbit.
Demographics are going against the GOP. You can't rely on the fundamentalist vote to win it for you every time. Just because they showed up in 2004 doesn't mean that they will show up in 2006.
Besides, Jr.'s approval ratings were much higher in 2002 & 2004 than they are now. He has been able to lie about everything and get away with it. No longer. There is even a grassroots movement taking place among the left and right to have Bush removed from office for treason.
Check out all the polls. He barely has approval in terrorism and very high negatives in all other areas. Why do you think that the Republicans are starting to attack him?
Posted by ga6thdem at June 19, 2005 03:02 PMPicture the following for ONE Moment:
Clinton HAS BEEN President since 2000 and The Republican House and Senate have been the in the MINORITY since 2000.
The "Liberal" American News Media has just found out in May 2005, about some "new fangled thing" called "The SECRET Downing Street Memo", where "Clinton had lied us into war" with Iraq, which he had been planning to do since 1999, which is also recorded on tapes.
Now picture WHAT The Washington Post, The NY Times, The Washington Times, and all other papers along with Faux and ALL "the news networks" would be reporting INSTEAD OF their "24/7 Schiavo, Jackson, Runaway Bride" Info-tainment News.
Also "imagine the screaming" coming from your radio via LimBORE, Hannity, O'LIEly and ALL "the rightwing radio programs" if ALL the above had happened.
Then, to add salt to the wound, picture those same people and the news reporters from the newspapers, television and radio, if "The DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY" did NOT allow the "Congressional Republican MINORITY" to hold a Hearing and instead, SHOVED them down into some basement room with 11 amendment votes during the Republican Hearing on The Downing Street Memo.
Have you had ANY Sights and Sounds of how today's media would be reacting "Very Harshly" Against Clinton popping into your head yet?
I thought so.
Posted by Tom Wieliczka at June 19, 2005 06:17 PMWhere do y'all expect this miracle to happen? 2006 will not change anything. The Congress will still have Republicans in the Speakers Chair and the Senate Majority Seat. There are only 15 GOP and 18 DEM seats that are up for grabs. Do the math all you people with the advanced degrees. In the Senate there are only two maybe three GOP seats in play, in contrast to eight or nine DEM seats. The timing stinks for y'all. The only thing y'all will be happy with is the turnover of two governorships. The GOP will still have more of them than y'all.
Posted by peter at June 20, 2005 03:00 PMPeter,
Believe what you want to believe, but now the GOP is now losing my smallish generation X, which has ALWAYS favored the GOP, as well as having never had the huge generation y.