saudi arabia and whoever the leader of the big oil well is..is the most oppressive closed society in the world...to keep it's grip on power the royal family will do anything...dissedents there disapear on a regular basis..just vanish...these are our closest friends in the middle east..they are tyrants..and we are the tyrants best friends...it is about money and it is about oil..and very little else..the united states of americas' leadership is without morality..no soul...we are the dark side of humanity..it is about greed..lies and death..and the price will be steep....much steeper then it will cost for a gallon of gasoline..
Posted by dennis at August 1, 2005 05:00 AMIf only Clinton hadn't coddled the Saudis by putting off developing the rich natural resources trapped under ANWRs frozen wastes, we might have been able to stop this.
Posted by Al at August 1, 2005 07:13 AMah, dear fahd. you were the father i never had.
Posted by dubya at August 1, 2005 07:16 AMhey!
Posted by poppy at August 1, 2005 07:16 AMal is right. bill clinton was an evil man from a common family who put his thing in a fat girl's mouth. thank allah you replaced him with such a devout oilman.
Posted by prince bandar at August 1, 2005 07:27 AMI won't beleive the left is serious about the energy problem until I see every vehicle with an anti-Bush/conservative slogan parked for good. You say you hate oil but use it and its byproducts everyday. Hyprocrsy is the conerstone of the Communists message.
Posted by Avenger D-22 at August 1, 2005 07:28 AMprince bandar
that's funny..it made me laugh
I won't beleive the left is serious about the energy problem until I see every vehicle with an anti-Bush/conservative slogan parked for good. You say you hate oil but use it and its byproducts everyday. Hyprocrsy is the conerstone of the Communists message.
Avenger,
That is without a doubt the stupidest comment you have ever posted here.
Posted by muckcat at August 1, 2005 07:35 AMAvenger D-22:
Well said!
Posted by Al at August 1, 2005 07:50 AMi have no fear for my legacy as long as there are good subjects like al and avenger. and of course the young bush. thank you all so much! now i'm off to hell.
Posted by king fahd at August 1, 2005 07:57 AMSo, have Al and Avenger given up their cars yet? Would hate for them to be viewed as hypocrites.
Posted by ann at August 1, 2005 08:02 AMActually, this one:
If only Clinton hadn't coddled the Saudis by putting off developing the rich natural resources trapped under ANWRs frozen wastes, we might have been able to stop this.
made me laugh sooooooo hard. Even the Republican Senators who voted for the energy bill aren't trying to pretend that drilling ANWR is going to do anything - long or short term - to help get us off the foreign oil addiction.
I got rid of my car shortly after 9/11. I'm not looking to replace it anytime soon.
Posted by ann at August 1, 2005 08:11 AMIf only Clinton hadn't coddled the Saudis by putting off developing the rich natural resources trapped under ANWRs frozen wastes, we might have been able to stop this.
If you paid attention, you ignorant fuck, you would know all that oil will get shipped to Japan. What a fucking imbecile.
I won't beleive the left is serious about the energy problem until I see every vehicle with an anti-Bush/conservative slogan
What's a matter you? Can't stand to see the fuel efficient cars from the lofty heights of your Suk-V? You hear us call for CAFE standards. You hear us call for alternative energy. You hear us call for renewable. We are not the problem, dumb fuck, you are -and everyone who is like you. You have no ability to place yourself in any temporal position beyond the here and now, and have absolutely no recognition that your current acts create your future. Good God, I hope your children aren't as fucking stupid as you...but I bet they are. What a fucking waste of space you are on this planet.
saudi arabia and whoever the leader of the big oil well is..is the most oppressive closed society in the world
Yep. The undercurrents in that society are staggering. Those people are horribly repressed, the single most repressive country on earth. Women are property. No one can smoke, drink, or do any "fun" stuff. But on television they see their princes whoring it up, smoking like chimneys, and drinking the best liquors on earth. Believe me, that has a massive impact on the "common" Arab. It's like here. We hear all the platitudes about how good things are and how "family values" oriented the goevernment is. But the only increases we see are going to the wealthy, and this current administration and it's supporters have the "family values" of a crack-whore and her pimp. The same undercurrents as in Arabia are starting to rumble here. It's going to get really bad when the housing bubble breaks.
Avenger D-22:...Well said!
"Orf, orf, orf!" Someone throw that trained seal another sardine.
Phidipides: If you paid attention, you ignorant fuck, you would know all that oil will get shipped to Japan. What a fucking imbecile.
Just like a liberal to call names when confronted with logic they cannot refute.
When the hell will Drum be back from vacation? I sure wish he'd put al in the kennel instead of letting it wander the streets like this.
Posted by iamcoyote at August 1, 2005 09:04 AMJust like a liberal to call names when confronted with logic they cannot refute.
Excuse me, I think Phidipides answered your question, with logic you cannot refute.
Posted by Judith at August 1, 2005 09:31 AMAl and Avenger- I ride my bike to work and if I have to drive somewhere, I use my Honda Insight (65 MPH). My house runs off of solar power, including all the conveniences of a modern home like AC, HDTV, hot tub, and major appliances. I rarely pay the power company a dime. I recycle practically all of my trash and compost anything organic. What have you done to preserve your planet lately? OH, and btw, I live in a major urban area, not some commune in the sticks.
According to the best estimates available, ANWR would only provide a maximum 6 months of oil at the current US rate of consumption. And that would be at the price of the last pristine place in North America.
Posted by Trieatalot at August 1, 2005 09:32 AMI won't beleive the left is serious about the energy problem until I see every vehicle with an anti-Bush/conservative slogan parked for good. You say you hate oil but use it and its byproducts everyday.
And the right obviously is never going to be happy until the world walks to work, rain or shine, blistering hot or subzero frozen, 10 miles or more, uphill both ways.
Posted by idiosynchronic at August 1, 2005 09:41 AM
"I won't beleive the left is serious about the energy problem until I see every vehicle with an anti-Bush/conservative slogan parked for good. You say you hate oil but use it and its byproducts everyday. Hyprocrsy is the conerstone of the Communists message."
Posted by Avenger D-22 at August 1, 2005 07:28 AM
I've been designing, building, and living in solar- heated ( and cooled) houses since 1977.
I just finished an off-grid place for a friend.
AND YOU?
Posted by disgusted vet at August 1, 2005 02:33 PMExcept for the Canadian tar sands North America is almost out of oil reserves. Globally we are at or past the point of peak oil. Oil is a rescorce of declining availability and the new energy bill does too little about devoloping alternatives.
Back in 2000, the Bush campaign critized Gore for a "50 cent a gallon tax hike". Some of you will remember that the plan wasn't a one time 50 cent tax hike as the Bushies insinuated but rather a 5 cent increase over ten years with the funds going to promote the alternative energy scorces that are the only way out of this nightmare.
Bush touted his oil background and said that with his connections he could "jawbone" energy prices down. How many of you miss those "high" Clinton era gas prices? Me too, here in SC we were paying about a dollar a gallon in 1999. Like everything else he's done, Bush's "jawboning" has worked out well hasn't it?
Posted by rlprather at August 4, 2005 08:49 AMYes, because we can all afford to set up solar power. It's easy. Of course.
It better work pretty efficiently, store a DAMN good amount of energy to deal with the 12+ hours of darkness we have for half the year (not to mention just about constant cloudiness except for a couple summer months) and be a fairly small and highly waterproof system to fit on a fairly small property. That we're renting.
I'm sorry, I'd love to try with the energy alternatives stuff, but as of now it's too expensive and, whiney though I sound, freaking inconvenient. I can't be driving around a smart car or dropping a ton of money on an electric or hybrid van to carry my kids around in.
I don't know for sure, but aren't there processes and other procedures you have to go through to make it legal to have a ton of solar stuff around your house?
It's just not easy for anyone except the fairly well off to do. Easy? Heck, sometimes it'd be downright impossible.
However, I am still in favour of saving energy wherever possible. I walk anywhere within 5k, bike within 8 or 10k, have a lot of energy conserving appliances and recycle everything that can be.
Posted by Mr. 70.68.100.77 at January 13, 2006 09:28 PM