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[Editor: ignore=off]I KNOW you didn't read this post, you Bu$hLicker! I was still posting it when your comment came up!
As for your idiotic and chauvinistic comment, I turn you over to the women you've just offfended.
Posted by pessimist at August 13, 2005 04:18 PM"She Has More Courage Than a Dozen Democratic Senator Wannabees!"
That a line like this is even allowed on this blog says everything about why the progressive left is as dangerous to the Democratic Party as anyone else.
This isn't a Red State website. Unlike the Republicans you appear to like so much, we'll let idiots like you ramble on.
Forget that it's a cheap shot at Kerry from a miserable fucking Deaniac.
Do describe where Kerry's name came up? Or have you been eating that mushroom pizza from last night?
Kerry actually went to war, but that's not a plus to the progressive left, it's selling out.
Kerry wasn't the topic of the post. Are you even reading the same web page you are commenting about?
Getting shot at in a war simply means Kerry didn't have the balls or spine or whatever fucking body part is referenced these days by those people who themselves would never think of serving.
Strong words from someone who hasn't established any bona fides! Did you serve?
Soto: I don't know why the hell you invited Pessimist to post on this blog, but this person is not doing you any favors. Between shitting on Southern workers and a host of other hotheaded posts, Pessimist routinely hurts your cred.
Is your cred so sterling? IF you are so expert, why don't you start your own blog and you can have your say? Otherwise, go back to sleep, Ace!
Posted by Amber Waves at August 13, 2005 04:42 PMThat a line like this is even allowed on this blog says everything about why the progressive left is as dangerous to the Democratic Party as anyone else.
But you know Combat Courage is not the same as Political Courage. And, uh, "even allowed"?
Posted by jlb at August 13, 2005 04:58 PMYou would think that there would be several Democratic Party Big Shots making there way to Crawford, praising Cindy Sheehan for her courage, slamming the president, personally, for the the right wing smears, and demanding that the president answer her question, not just for her but for the whole country.
You would think that any Democratic Big Shot who wants to be seen as a leader of the party, with potential to lead the country, would take this opportunity to show that he or she is a leader.
You would think that when a gaping hole opens in Bush's teflon that Democrats would be running through it.
And if you think those things . . . well, I don't know what to tell you. The one point on which I agree with the Republicans is that the Democratic Party leadership are gutless losers.
Posted by James E. Powell at August 13, 2005 06:07 PMGee Benditto, when did they let STUPID FUCKS become doctors? Or are you like Frist and are diagnosing based on, well whatever?
Posted by Sharon at August 13, 2005 06:22 PMMaybe Benditto needs a little shock therapy.
Posted by at August 13, 2005 07:43 PMIf it weren't for people like Mrs. Sheehan having a uterus and reproducing, where else would Bush get his "fodder" to fight for his noble causes. I mean, it's not as if George's mother Barbara, George's wife Laura, most republicans and certainly not bendito's mother reproduced offspring courageous enough to join up and fight the noble cause in Iraq. You should be grateful to people like Mrs. Sheehan and others like her. Yup bendito, Mrs. Sheehan's uterus just might have saved your sorry arse from being drafted into the military for this WAr.
Or maybe some "shock and awe" therapy
Posted by at August 13, 2005 09:08 PMGee, I'd like to know who the illustrious 230 big donors are...so I can show them my appreciation in future. No $, no chimperor! Identify these creeps! Boycott, anyone?
Posted by VKW at August 13, 2005 09:31 PMBenny you could join Los Pepes in Iraq!!
Posted by Goyo at August 13, 2005 09:53 PMI recall seeing a woman on TV two years ago, she was digging through the dirt with her hands. There was no definite grave in there as the whole place was one large grave but she seemed willing to dig the whole place looking for her two brothers who disappeared from earth 24 years ago when they were dragged from their colleges to a chamber of hell.
Her tears mixed with the dirt of the grave and there were journalists asking her about what her brothers did wrong and she was screaming "I don't know, I don't know. They were only college students. They didn't murder anyone, they didn't steal, and they didn't hurt anyone in their lives. All I want to know is the place of their grave".
While I feel sympathy for her I think her anger should be focused on the insurgents/terrorists. Of course I have a totally different view of the world as she does. I know that their are evil people out there that want nothing more than to destroy the US and my way of life. I know that if you give them an inch the next thing you now we will be living in an islamofacist state run by people that will have no qualms about killing each and everyone of those that oppose their view of the world. Do you really think appeasement of these people will work? No ii emboldens them it makes us seem weak and ripe for the picking. Mrs Sheehan says she wants nobody else to feel her pain but leaving Iraq now we would ensure that millions of Iraqi women would feel it s their sons we singled out and murdered by the regime that would arise. whatr Iraqi women don't feel pain like American women I doubt that to be true. So far we have been lucky in Iraq with so few casualties for the amount of time we have been the compared to early wars. One final thought what was on Casey's mind while over there. Did he beleive in the mission, in the President? We might never know how he felt but shouldn't we respect that fact that he chose to serve indicate to us that he might have felt that we were right to be there. Maybe his ideas should be the ones honored. In any case Gob bless him and Cindy Sheehan they both show what is great about the US you have the freedom to choose your own path.
Posted by Avenger D-22 at August 13, 2005 11:03 PM"You would think that any Democratic Big Shot who wants to be seen as a leader of the party, with potential to lead the country, would take this opportunity to show that he or she is a leader."
This is so stupid it's brain dead. Here you have a woman with no apparent political motives, and you want a Dem to go down there and taint her with their presence? What the fuck???
If the Dem is greeted warmly by Sheehan, then everybody sees Sheehan as a sellout. If the Dem is blown off, it's grandstanding (and would be in either case).
But hey, the antiwar left is already fucking this all up by hanging out with her and making her look like a head-up-the-ass Deaniac, so why not pile on, right? I mean, we couldn't all be so smart as to recognize that the most important thing we can do for this woman is:
Leave her alone!
Posted by Amber Waves at August 13, 2005 11:12 PM"I now know he's (Bush) sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis," Cindy said after their meeting. "I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith."
"It's hard to lose a son," she said. "But we (all) lost a son in the Iraqi war."
"That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together," Cindy said.
Cindy Sheehan, June 24, 2004 (after meeting with President Bush)
Posted by muckdog at August 13, 2005 11:37 PMWe need to boycott the corporations that support Bush's treasons and hope more U.S. citizens can clear their heads enough to see through the bullshit!!!!
Posted by Smooth at August 13, 2005 11:54 PMIt's hard to ignore the off-the-wall posts by the parrots repeating the childish distractions generated to keep the "Kool Aid" drinkers thirsty. I will leave it at that.
Posted by Smooth at August 14, 2005 12:02 AMCindy Sheehan, June 24, 2004 (after meeting with President Bush)
Although this out of context passage has been cited often by the low-level, cowardly sleaze who are not qualified to carry Cindy Sheehan's purse, we all know more now than we did a year ago.
Muck, do you know more than you did a year ago? If not, why not? Aparently something, I'm guessing it was the loss of her son, inspired Cindy to take a closer look at a lot of things.
I'm not sure what it is about corruption and incompetence that you admire so much, but apparently she has had enough. She is asking in the media the questions that the media should be asking the president,and should have been asking for two years. He won't answer, so her questions remain out there, unanswered, festering in the hot Texas sun, drawing attention to the fact that they are unanswered
What is it about unaccountablity that you admire so much? Do you believe that once a person has volunteered to serve his country, at the risk of his life if necessary, that we can squander this patriotism by killing them for no good reason? Or do you believe that there should be a damn good reason to let American troops die, and that if the reason that is given turns out to be a lie, this lie should be treated more seriously than a lie about sex?
Posted by Repack Rider at August 14, 2005 12:24 AMRepack Rider,
Well said!!! It's sad we have to hear that garbage at a critical time like this. Unfortunately, that garbage works with the group that can't critically think their heads out of their rectums.
Frank Rich speaks the truth in this NTY OpEdarticle. It's time to blow away the smoke and speak truth to the lies.
I bet, in school, Drudge got his ass kicked everyday!!! What a total losers. It's hard to believe that anyone would pay attention to a liar like Drudge!!!
Drudge conveniently left out this part of the Sheehan's story:
"But as their meeting with the president approached, the family was faced with a dilemma as to what to say when faced with Casey's commander-in-chief."
"We haven't been happy with the way the war has been handled," Cindy said. "The president has changed his reasons for being over there every time a reason is proven false or an objective reached."
"...But in the end, the family decided against such talk, deferring to how they believed Casey would have wanted them to act.
This is an example of the lies and distortions that lead the "Kool Aid" drinkers to buy the "Weapons of Mass Distruction" and "War on Terror" lies!!!
i know of no reason why the fraud wouldn't walk down the road and meet cindy sheehan....i mean she lost her son..he's on vacation...
is the fraud in touch with reality? (serious question) is he sane?
Posted by dennis at August 14, 2005 02:18 AMreally ..i think perhaps this fraud has gone totally delusional..like many of his followers...his middle eastern ideology is not rational.....iraq is not now and never was a major threat to the people of the united states..these policies are not working and instead of reconsidering..we talk of broadening (iran)....that fraud in the white house (he was never elected) is steering this country to disaster with oil criminals at the helm..and the blood of our soldiers are paying the toll..we need to keep on paying them for their oil like we always have and not steal it...and mind our own business..stay focused on osama and terrorism
Posted by dennis at August 14, 2005 05:06 AMI know that their are evil people out there that want nothing more than to destroy the US and my way of life. I know that if you give them an inch the next thing you now we will be living in an islamofacist state run by people that will have no qualms about killing each and everyone of those that oppose their view of the world.
I read this and thought he was talking about BushCo. The "killing each and everyone of those that oppose their view of the world" is either literal or in the case of those like Joe Wilson and Cindy Sheheen, it's character assassination. Those who defend those in the White House right now are guilty too.
I missed the "Islamofacist", should say "pseudo-Christofacist"
Posted by Sharon at August 14, 2005 08:07 AMthe fraud i believe is suffering from meglomania..and is as nutty as a fruitcake
Posted by dennis at August 14, 2005 08:51 AMIt's just too bad that Cindy's been co-opted by the radical liberals. A few dozen of the craziest ones are down there with impeach Bush signs and are really trying to push her over her limit. You know how Amway folks have to have meetings every week to keep the memebers fired up and motivated, otherwise they'll realize it's pretty ridiculous and they'll quit? I think Cindy's walking a mile in their shoes right now.
I hope when the hype is all over, she finds peace.
Posted by muckdog at August 14, 2005 10:02 AMIt's just too bad that Cindy's been co-opted by the radical liberals. A few dozen of the craziest ones are down there with impeach Bush signs and are really trying to push her over her limit.
Because someone you don't like holds an opinion, that does not automatically invalidate the opinion. One rebuts the opinion with facts and logic, not by who holds it, but you have shown us repreatedly that logical analysis is not your strong suit. Guilt by association is good enough for Bush, and good enough for you.
If you found out that Hitler loved his mom, would you would denounce yours, because he was not a nice man and you wouldn't want to agree with him that loving one's mom is a good thing?
Some of those "radicals" who visited Cindy included active duty Army personnel from Fort Hood, who came personally to support her, bringing letters of support signed by other soldiers.
Why do you hate the troops who love Cindy?
Posted by Repack Rider at August 14, 2005 10:46 AMSo you know what's best for her, huh Muck?
Never mind the words she's actually saying. You know what's really going on in her head. Just like Frist, Delay, etc. knew what was going on in Terry Schaivo's head.
Posted by Doug at August 14, 2005 10:47 AMAnyone who understands the orgins of political movements knows that a term like "islamofascist" is ignorant. Fascism is a secular form of authoratarian control, usually involving military aggression. Fascism will use the religion of an area for its purposes, but is not religious in of itself. For example, Baathism, Saddam's movement is a moslem form of fascism (but his Iraq was not a religious state) just as Nazism was protestant and falangeism was catholic.
Theoracy, be it Islamic or not, is geared more to establishing a state that fits a religious ideal, even if this means that non-believers must be killed for "gods" state to be established.
It's not that I expect Faux news to respect political history, after all ignorance is a tool used by the right to keep the dupes in line. It's just that we on the left should not use the word framing devoloped by the right in any context, this is how the estate tax becomes the death tax and how the right to privacy becomes pro-abortion. When we accept their framework on anything, our facts, regardless of their merit, are trumped and they've already won the arguement.
Posted by cosmic muffin at August 14, 2005 11:36 AMi think she's being used, and i'm sad for her and her family, who are already apologizing for her.
but she has the freedom to say whatever she likes and can camp out in crawford for as long as she likes.
Posted by muckdog at August 14, 2005 07:15 PMThere are things worse than death. Ask any VietNam veteran. The ones that came home, but are dead inside. More veterans have committed suicide than were killed in that War. It is estimated that somewhere between 150,000 and 200,000 vets have committed suicide since returning home.
I spent last night with a VietNam vet who will probably end up killing himself, even after all these years and therapy, and there is nothing anyone can do for him. Why? Because he believes that there is no salvation for him for what he did in Nam. He asked over and over again, "and for what?" His parting words were that the kids today in Iraq will come home and realize that they have changed, their lives have changed, and not necessarily for the better, and they will ask "for what?"
Posted by Judith at August 14, 2005 07:15 PMYeah, Muck, it was too bad that all those right wing fringe groups went down to Florida to protest Terri Schiavo's right to die. They sure made the right wing look like a bunch of crazies, that's for sure. Too bad Terri couldn't separate herself from them.
Posted by at August 15, 2005 05:51 AMSince this war on terror is illegal and unjust, all Roman Catholics in the military should drop their arms at once. All families who have someone in the war should demand their lovrd ones to return now. All who support the war and bush also have innocent blood on their hands. Our troops do not compare with nazi ss men. They are worse.
Posted by at October 5, 2005 05:50 PM