Republican rule - One law for me. another law for you. Man, when these chickens come home, if they ever do, things are going to get ugly. Thanx, Bush. Thanx, Rove. And thanx a whole lot, sheeple.
Posted by darms at August 18, 2005 08:08 AMThe one good thing about this is the highlighting of the courts performing their duty to protect what rights still remain. The longer the process goes on, more cases brought by the Bu$h (mi$)Admini$tration are being rejected on legal grounds.
The bad news if that this enhances the attitude that the courts are out of control.
Posted by pessimist at August 18, 2005 08:16 AMThe bad news IS!!!
Got to put that 'f' key back where it belongs!
Posted by pessimist at August 18, 2005 08:18 AMAny lawyer will tell you its not that courts are out of control, but the lawyers.
*ba-dum-bum*
Posted by idiosynchronic at August 18, 2005 08:38 AMDidn't somebody once say, "The price of liberty is eternal vigilance"? This demonstrates dramatically that if we snooze, we lose. But if we face down this rabid minority firmly, wherever they pull their ugly tricks, we can preserve our rights and send them back to the underside of their rocks, there to plot and hate and fear once more.
We need to fight the good fight in every precinct and every school district. Kudos to the parents!
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[Editor: ignore=off]Why can't a few citizens sue to get those taxpayer funds returned? As the victims of the irresponsible and fraudulent lawsuit, why should taxpayers have to pay? I know the schoold district agreed to it, but they don't really "own" that money, do they? They're responsible for using tax money properly, so why should taxpayers agree to this?
Sue, I sez.
Ed
Another example of judicial activism...protect the rights of the minorities but not those of the majority...(typed with sarcasm)
Posted by the professor at August 18, 2005 10:21 AMWhat are you talking about Bendito? Everyone knows that all good little fundie children are either in private voucher schools or are home-schooled. After all, what kind of "christian" would allow their kids to go to a public school?
So Bendito, you wouldn't mind a lay-person teaching your children theology? Or do you suggest that all teachers must have some religious training in order to teach the children "about Jesus, God's Son, and his death, burial and resurrection to save sinners from perdition."
Actually if there was a true abuse of the court system then the Judge has the option to sanction the law firm which brought the action. Given that in this case it appears that there was a mutual agreement at some level that is unlikely, but it's not unheard of, in fact here is a link to a recent case where the lawyers were sanctioned that you might enjoy:
http://ktla.trb.com/news/local/la-me-forest16aug16,0,3525106.story?coll=ktla-newslocal-1
darms
I think the saying goes "Laws for thee but not for me!"
But to add my own voice to this discussion, the main way to fight this was expressed to me by another who encountered this before and went through the same trials.
They always went like this.
1. Teacher tries to impose personal and planned view of god and politics into the student's minds.
2. Parents complain.
3. Superintendent corrects the teacher.
4. The teacher takes his case to the school board.
5. Teacher and his political/religious allies put into motion steps to harass the parents who complained and the school officials. This includes an array of threats, mails, bullets found in mailboxes, people throwing rocks through windows and driving through their yard, etc.
6. Teacher and his political/religious allies begin propaganda war by accusing parents and school officials of being anti-christian, liberals, leftists, atheists, even satanic. They demand to know how she can attest to being a christian herself when she complains of other christians teaching her children. She should be glad that christians are teaching her children, and that because she isn't, means she isn't a real christian.
What happens in the end is that the parent who brought the complaint demonstrated her devotion to her faith, her church, and even brings the reverend from her church to the school board meeting to take her side. There she informs the schoolboard that she attends church 3 times a week, twice on Sundays, and tends to vote republican, but not all the time. Her complaint deals with the fact that only two people have the right to try and impose religious beliefs on her children, the family and the preacher of their church. She claims in front of the school board that she does not know this teacher, his morals, his worldview, or his religous views. She tells the schoolboard that catholics and protestants were both christians yet they fought wars in Europe for centuries and was the basis of our own nation's freedom of religion and establishment clause. She then tells the school board that just because the teacher may call himself a christian, he may not be her kind of trusted christian unlike her preacher who she knows and trusts with the raising of her children within her faith and church. She insists that just because the teacher calls himself a christian does not even make him one cause anyone can call themselves a christian. She then informs them that there are all kinds of christians and many cult-like christian groups like David Koresh's christian cult in Waco, Texas where he considered himself the second coming, and just like she wouldn't want mormons teaching her children, she won't have anyone she has not approved of from any any of the other whacko christian religions being taught in school to her children. She then says that not all christian beliefs are the same and that because of this it is best to leave it out of the schools entirely.
Suffice to say she wins the case overwhelmingly after the local small town paper makes it known that she was bound to lose big.
This is how you fight them. You simply tell them that there are too many types of christians and you don't want any of the wrong types teaching your children. You only want you and your church preacher doing those duties, leaving the schools for the three R's.
This is bound to give anyone using this strategy a very good chance of winning.
MYOB'
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