This sums up everything that I believe is wrong with your country. They could nt organise an orgy in a brothel.
Posted by Laird at September 2, 2005 01:29 AMWe are in the third act of the Fall of the Roman Empire (and it remains to be seen how many acts are in this play). Everyone sees it but refuses to believe it. The parallels are uncanny -- a military too dispersed, gov't officials fragmenting into power pockets for selfish gains, racial/religious strife, class gaps and social division. The whole thing finally came crumbling down. But what the Romans did not have was the entire house of cards collapse in front of everyone on the planet on television.
Posted by distributorcap at September 2, 2005 05:15 AMI watched the ABC News coverage of the Hurricane Katrina aftermath last night. During this program, an excerpt from ABC News' "Good Morning America" interview with Dianne Sawyer interviewing Dumbya was shown. I thought I'd loose my seat when I heard Dumbya say, "I understand what these people are going through."
How, just how can he say that? He is clueless to what these people are going through. He is so clueless that it can't even register with a single (the single) brain cell in his head. And with that type of comment in mind, along with his repeated use of the same ol' worn out lines he uses with every chance he gets, you can just tell that nothing he is not forced to do will be done. The people have heard enough about how we need to be "patient", "understanding" and give "trust" that help is coming. Heard that so many times before. It's time our weak, chickenshit government get off its ass and get the ball rolling.
I have to say this -- a paraphrased quote from President Woodrow Wilson -- that our "federal government is remarkably weak and has an inherent problem dealing with domestic issues", as he commented near the turn of the 20th century on labor issues. So I ask the question -- in the most powerful country in the world, why is it that it takes "congressional action" which may take "time" to appropriate funds and order military assistance? Why can't our President, or at least some authority of Congress immediately recognize the need and instantly deal with it? Is our government so weak that it cannot take over cruise ships in a time of national disaster to be used as housing instead of wasting time "brokering" a deal with the companies that run those ships? Is the "loss of profit" more of an issue than human life and the security of our nation? Why can't our government step in and say, "PROFITS STOP HERE" in the need of national interests, security and humanitarian necessity, and commandere (sp) whatever is necessary to get the job done? I ask, is private corporations "rights" to profit and remain idle in the time of crisis more important than relief of this magnitude?
With Houston, TX, Baton Rouge, Talahassee, FL and other major cities within chopper range, why aren't any of those corporate choppers that you know are all over these cities there aiding in rescuing the people? Is it because we "trust" our government so much that nobody sees the need to donate this kind of effort? Where are the buses? How many tour companies you think there are that could easily spare a few buses but won't because they are not "going to get paid"? Is America that profit hungry as to let an entire city die over the almighty dollar?
Now I have to say, America, especially within the past 30 years, is no more than a propaganda machine, programming its citizens to believe how great we are, how hunky-dory things are, how powerful we are, when in fact, we cannot even muster up enough support to rescue one of our major cities from a disaster. Our government is so weak, so chickenshit that it cannot use authority to end capatalism long enough to rescue an entire city from doomsday. It is no wonder so many victims have turned to anarchy, looting and total disrespect for the "law". It is survival at this point. Who cares if the grocery store owner looses a few bucks in profits due to looting. Is his profits more important than the hunger of the dying? A shoot to kill order was ordered this morning by the Governor of Louisiana. Kill those "stealing" food. Now that's America. ""Food is on the way, leave that store owner's property alone and starve until it arrives. If you die, too bad. You were weak and unwanted anyway.""
Oh, I forgot. Iraq is much more important than Louisiana. And you can shoot as many as you want.
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[Editor: ignore=off]At least, Rev. Jesse Jackson has come to the rescue.
Posted by Blue Jean at September 2, 2005 05:26 AMI share that rage re: our Democratic 'leaders' - In fact, their failure to speak out loudly - even at this date, with such vast evidence of Bush incompetency - completely destroys my loyalty and hope in our Democratic party, and in our country. We are in deep s---.
Posted by DML at September 2, 2005 05:28 AMBendito...
Where exactly are you in the country? Do you have loved ones in NO? Do you or had you ever experienced the complete and utter loss of your history? Malcontent? Malcontent is letting the powers that be know what needs to be done and being told nope, not gonna happen. Malcontent is going to sleep as an NBC reported did and waking up to two dead bodies next to her. Malcontent is this:
To make matters worse, the chief of the Louisiana State Police said he heard of numerous instances of New Orleans police officers — many of whom were from flooded areas — turning in their badges.
“They indicated that they had lost everything and didn’t feel that it was worth them going back to take fire from looters and losing their lives,” Col. Henry Whitehorn said.
Its easy for you and piss-ants like you to point fingers at everything, but I challenge you and your ilk to get the fcuk off the couch from in front of the tv and do something. Enlist and fight the war, go to NO and join the relief effort. Until you take action my friend I propose you STFU...
Adios Bendito, its been real nice.
And the hits just keep on coming . .
"At 4:35 a.m. Friday, an explosion rocked a chemical storage facility near the Mississippi River east of the French Quarter, said Lt. Michael Francis of the Harbor Police. A series of smaller blasts followed and then acrid, black smoke that could be seen even in the dark. The vibrations were felt all the way downtown."
Posted by idiosynchronic at September 2, 2005 05:39 AMWhat I don't get is, in the 9/11 aftermath, TV coverage was UNinterrupted for two weeks. Whats up with Gulf Coast tragedy brought to you by Cingular Wireless, McDonalds....? Celebrities are chomping at the bit at the opp to make money. Harry Thug Jr., comes to mind, because he's a native of N.O.
When Bush visits the area today, can't wait to hear how he's gushed over by the Fox Cocks gang. I also don't understand why this tragedy is discussed and hosted by Barbie dolls news anchors, dolls with wildly streaked and stiffed hair do's. Who just look SO preturbed at all of this horror!!!
Last night at dinner, I asked my spouse and mother to raise their glasses of elitist chardonnay, and proposed a toast to the end of America.
Posted by Jonquil at September 2, 2005 05:39 AMThe rage is real, even the diehards in Jesusland are getting skeptical.
Wait until the the gasoline starts running out and the whole administration might have to go live in exile in Eyerack.
Posted by Jesusland Joe at September 2, 2005 05:45 AMI got this email this morning from my mom...
It is too late to call you now, but wanted to let you know that you would never guess who I saw on CNN this morning.
(our cousin) She was rushed to a hospital in Baton Rouge, in labor. She was being interviewed by a CNN Reporter. She was holding a fine baby girl over her chest, in bed, in tears because she was being discharged today from the hospital. For some reason, her husband was NOT allowed to ride in the ambulance when she was picked up during the flooding to go to a hospital to have her baby. They could not take her anywhere in New Orleans due to floods, so took her all the way to Baton Rouge. She was being disharged today, said she was going to sit in the lobby since she had no place to go. I am going online to see if I can locate her and talk with her.
What devastation !
Should my cousin be content Bendito?
Posted by anthony at September 2, 2005 05:50 AMWhy doen't he [the president] fly to the hospitals and pick up the sick people, are maybe the superdome, and drop food. What a disgrace. I hang my head in shame. If he's not impeached we will never beable to face the rest of the world. We look like fools to the rest of the world. Who cares if he goes to the gulf coast? God help us all.
Posted by bgirl at September 2, 2005 06:01 AMHousing support is going to be needed for six months to a year or more. Stadiums are just a stupid idea for more than a few days.
People cannot return there are no services and no jobs.
Some suggestions:
1. Tent cities
2. Army barracks or tents on bases
3. Cruise ships
4. Military transport ships
5. Empty housing in dying towns in the midwest and northeast
FEMA doesn't have a clue.
Cheney is supposedly still on vacation, Condi had to be shamed into coming back... How am I supposed to believe this was not a deliberate attempt to kill off as many poor people as they could before they were forced to do something. They knew the levee was breached Monday. They didn't announce it until the following afternoon. Bush doesn't bother coming back until late Wed. and immediately goes on tv to spew platitudes, so when did he really get to work on this? This is criminal, it's a crime against humanity. And the defenders of a government that allows babies and old people die on camera are no better than the murderers in the white house. Americans dying before your eyes, Toby, muckfucker, peter, bendito POS. And you defend it because you think it's just a game. Inhuman monsters, the lot of you. This inaction from the government is a crime against humanity, and anyone who thinks it's okay has no soul.
Posted by iamcoyote at September 2, 2005 06:06 AMis Faith Hill a republican partisan?
she JUST said on the Today Show that there are positive things going on in New Orleans.
Posted by distributorcap at September 2, 2005 06:40 AMWhat is happening is a damned disgrace, and bendido, if it was Kerry in charge you would be having a sh*tfit. Your leader this morning says that relief efforts are "unacceptable." No sh*t. His golfing buddy who heads up FEMA and who knows nothing about disaster relief can't find his ass with both hands, so Bush looks at him for as a scapegoat.
How many hurricanes and wars does this imbecile need before he will finally get one right? He won't get a pass from me, pal.
Posted by Hank at September 2, 2005 06:42 AMCoasters,
When you think of all of the incompetence associated with Iraq, the incredible efforts by our country to destroy the UN going on as I write this, the attack on our National Parks system and now the events in NO, it is time for this government to step down. Bush, Cheny, Hastert all the way down to someone who has shown some indication of caring about our people and our Counntry. A large number of Americans may need to to Washington and sit down until these criminals are removed from office and we can begin to rebuild a government.
Posted by Philip at September 2, 2005 06:51 AMWhy is Clinton in there in the oval office with the Idiot-in-chief? Why was he trying to deflect any partisan critiscm of Bushco? What's in it for him? He's not so stupid as to not have an ulterior motive of some sort - even if its just his way of staying relevant. I just don't get it.
Posted by peaceandjoy at September 2, 2005 07:24 AMPhillip is exactly right. They have been repeatedly exposed as the worst administration in history, and if they had a lick of sense, the entire bunch would resign. Shameful.
Posted by weinerdog43 at September 2, 2005 07:26 AMPhillip, Marie and all...I'm with you.
Let's go. count me in...and Bendito, if I ever meet you in person I will kick your ass.
I'm the one who never watches TV out of principle, until now and guess who is comin' out smelling like a rose in this? Shep Smith. Bush was drunk when he was in the Oval Office with his dad and Clinton. He didn't know who to shake hands with first. It was comedic!
I agree with Coasters who say this inaction was deliberate. Bushco knows like good Nazis, the poor and sick and the old have to be liquidated.
Posted by Mal Feasance at September 2, 2005 07:35 AMWhile the rants proceed on the evil Bush administration, let me give you a few facts about the lack of response in New Orleans.
There have been two major and two minor hurricanes that hit Florida in the past 18 months. The response by Florida Emergency Management and FEMA to all of this destruction has been universally acclaimed as fast, professional and compassionate. Why is the New Orleans situation different?
As a supplier of equipment to EM agencies throughout the country, I can tell you first hand how different states and localities handle the planning and execution of emergency actions.
Speaking from my own experience, Florida has contracted with my company to provide certain items in emergency situations. In order to be considered for the contract, we had to provide 24/7 contact numbers for the three top officials of the company. Inventory needed to be verified, provisions for delivery without the assistance of commercial trucking was required and prices were locked to avoid gouging in times of crisis. Various staging areas are designated, evacuation routes are well planned and marked, emergency relocation centers are stocked and communications are without rival.
Of course, Louisiana has nothing like this in place.
Coordination with FEMA is seamless. Everyone knows who should be where and what everyone should be doing in a number of scenarios. Through prior planning, Florida officials know how long it will take to bring supplies into any area effected and have pre-positioned enough supplies to last until the resupply can occur. Police, fire and medical personnel have well defined roles and know the order of priorities in emergencies. Central command and communication centers are established to coordinate efforts and keep the public informed on risks and progress.
Emergency management in the U.S. is organized, rightfully so, to be a function of state and local government. The theory behind this structure is that no one knows the area, residents, risks, resources and other factors better than local and state officials. FEMA is an organization that reinforces these state and local agencies with resources. Regardless of the situation, it is the governor of the state and top local official who calls the shots in any emergency.
The difference between Florida and Louisiana is leadership. As much as you would like to blame Bush, he is not the reason for the suffering in New Orleans.
These links are provided in case you want to read the plans.
http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/EOPSupplement1a.pdf
http://www.floridadisaster.org/dem/DOCUMENTS/evac_sop.htm
Katrina Changed Everything
For the past four years Republicans shoved their Anti-American policies down Our throats by hiding behind the phrase "9/11 Changed Everything."
From here on, the only phrase I want to hear is "Katrina Changed Everything."
A New Era demands New Policies.
Posted by ROGNM at September 2, 2005 07:56 AMJ. West -- uh-huh, and who are the respective governors of Florida and Louisiana? And might it be added that Louisiana has a history of political corruption, populist demagoguery, and civic lassitude. The first time I visited NO I parked illegally in front of a police station for 45 minutes without anybody noticing, and watched cop cars come barreling out of a driveway that was designated ENTRANCE ONLY in plain letters.
Posted by Mr Damage at September 2, 2005 08:01 AM
Hank How many hurricanes and wars does this imbecile need before he will finally get one right? He won't get a pass from me, pal.
Bush all life as been nothing but failures. How many companies did his AWOL bankrupted?
Mal Feasance; Bush was drunk when he was in the Oval Office with his dad and Clinton. He didn't know who to shake hands with first. It was comedic!
I wonder if he was not on drugs!
BUSH UNBALANCED AS POLLS PLUMMET By Bill Gallagher Aug. 30 2005
J. west you have a good post. But no way am I buying an excuse for Bush's handling of the government--FEMA included. He is always concerned AFTER a disaster strikes--9/11 or this. If he was doing his duty and responsibility in overseeing his government instead of hauling his tired ass to Crawford every time he gets a chance, maybe this wouldn't have been so bad.
As for Louisana, Bush took 71 million dollars from the New Orleans Corps of Engineers (44%) budget in June. My guess is that Cheney's Halliburton Company needed another no-bid contract, after all, since when has this administration EVER been concerned with how much money it is borrowing and spending.
Posted by Hank at September 2, 2005 08:03 AMWhy is Clinton in there in the oval office with the Idiot-in-chief? Why was he trying to deflect any partisan critiscm of Bushco? What's in it for him? He's not so stupid as to not have an ulterior motive of some sort - even if its just his way of staying relevant. I just don't get it.
rock and the hard place syndrome -- if he doesnt go it will "leak" out he was invited and turned it down -- come across as insensitive and uncaring to the tragedy in New Orleans. he had not choice. although it looks like a ringing endorsement of President Vacation's reign, better that there is someone who CAN LEAD and help that worry about political showcasing right now
Posted by distributorcap at September 2, 2005 08:24 AMSo, according to jwest and damaged, the thousands of people dying right now don't deserve any help from the president in a disaster area because the governor is a democrat. How about the govs of MS and AL? Why don't you guys go down there and explain to those mothers holding dead babies that they're SOL because they're too stupid to move to FL? How 'bout you explain that the prez has no authority to save their poor sorry asses? Explain to them that since their gov is not the prez's bro, they don't deserve federal support, 'kay, you subhuman fucks?
Posted by iamcoyote at September 2, 2005 08:31 AMIn addition to incompetence-to-the-umpteenth-power it should be obvious that the Bush Administration is composed entirely of sociopaths: incapable of the smallest amount of empathy for the condition of other human beings.
It is also clear from the stories of NO police officers turning in their badges and declaring that "it's every man for himself" that sociopathic tendencies rise quickly to the surface under extreme conditions, particularly when those on the front line get no support for what they are doing.
J West, as this tragedy unfolds, something is becoming very clear about Democrat Government Officials vs. Republican Government officials.
I guess we should accept that the Democrats in government are there just to get a paycheck; while the Republicans are supposed to solve all the issues.
Thanks for confirming what we all already know.
Oh Man! About FEMA director Brown: bush just said it on MSNBC, "And Brownie your doing a heck of job. Their working 24 hours a day here". The fucking medal of freedom is next. Nobody gets fired, you get praise! Only in bushworld!!
I'm with you on the rage. I can't eat or sleep or conentrate on work. Major deadline coming up & I can't focus. People dead for absolutely no reason but callow indifference & the perpertrators are offended when we notice what pieces of shit they are.
Posted by Hoosiercat at September 2, 2005 08:51 AMHoo, Governor makes the call to shoot the rioting blue staters...
Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco, who earlier said she was "just furious" about the anarchy in New Orleans, said they were going with shoot-to-kill orders.
"These troops are battle-tested. They have M-16s and are locked and loaded," Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said.
Link.
FEMA is supposed to coordinate disaster recovery efforts. Pick up where the local effort is weak or non-existent. We can probably guess that FEMA has expended more money and effort in FL keeping a permananent structure in place to assist and/or takeover as needed because helping FL with hurricanes helps a Bush. This isn't strictly a partisan issue because MS with its GOP Governor fared no better than LA.
Jesse Jackson Jr. said today what I've longed to hear our of the mouth of an elected official -- these people need shelter and every community in America is responsible for opening their homes, hotels and shelters to these people.
Why the fuck are we sending buses into NO and then having them another three hundred or so milies to relief centers? Those buses should be ferrying those people from the city to the nearest addditional mass transit hubs and then getting right back into the city and picking up another load of people. Amtrak should have had trains with as many cars as they could hook up down there by Wed, and transporting people north and west. Dropping off people all along the line until the last person was off and then getting back to NO for another load. Planes should have been taking those people to communities not on rail lines.
Watching all of this unfold while that idiot in the WH did nothing -- is what is "unacceptable." Thousands of bloggers across the country knew exactly what steps needed to be taken and if anyone of us had had the power of the POTUS we could have handled this with a competency that would make Bu$hCo professionals look like bigger hacks than they already do. And we're not disaster professionals but ordinary citizens with brains that know how to think through a problem like this one and know all sorts of effective things that can be done.
Posted by Marie at September 2, 2005 08:58 AMshorter jwest and puppyboy: Don't blame my wonderful republican leader who I wish could run again in 2008, blame other people, especially democrats.
jwest, Where were you the other day when you threw your hissy fit and asked us all to hold our criticisms of Dear Leeder and asked for national unity during this time. Yet the next post was about radical religious republican leaders blaming certain portions of nation's population for being the "cause" of such a disaster. Yet funny nary a peeop from you condeming those republican leaders for their hateful disunity...hypocrite.
Typical response from you both here is to always point the finger of responsibility away from Junior and the republican party. I can't imagine that if it was Clinton or any democrat acting as POTUS you would be posting here in "unity" defending the indefensible in the manner in which you do. Does your fearless leader ever bear any, any responsibility or accountability for anything that goes on in this country or the world...ever? Oh yeah I know the answer, only those things that are good...and they would be what again? (Other than record oil profits and CEO salaries which I'm certain you both think is just wonderful?)
Posted by emal at September 2, 2005 09:02 AM
mucky can no longer hide the woody he's been sporting since the death began. One sick puppy.
Posted by iamcoyote at September 2, 2005 09:03 AMMy post was meant to offer a comparison to disaster relief between two states, both dealing with FEMA with Bush as president.
If there was gross incompetence on the part of Bush, it seems unlikely that the Florida situations would have been handled so well.
Look at this picture and see if it doesn't enrage you as to the lack of planning in N.O. and Louisiana as a whole.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050901/480/flpc21109012015
How many people could have been evacuated with these resources?
Posted by j.west at September 2, 2005 09:06 AMMarie, When bush was here in AZ the other day I said, "Man he better get busy on Katrina, right now"! H2O, food and medical supplies were the first things I thought of! If normal people can think of this shit, why can't the leader of this great nation? Because...he's a fucking idiot!!
Posted by bushblowsturdblossom at September 2, 2005 09:12 AMjwest, no one is now excusing the gov, but when she started begging Bush for assistance Tuesday, the ball was passed to him and he fumbled. Even Bill O'Reilly has said it.
Posted by iamcoyote at September 2, 2005 09:13 AMI'm sure glad that bush is physically fit and can make crisp decisions. Otherwise, we'd really be in trouble.
Posted by Jim Faith at September 2, 2005 09:30 AMWow, Mucky has gone over and above on the excuses for incompetence. Bush is the one in charge of FEMA, buddy not Blanco. The Gov. and the Mayor of N.O. have no power to solve this problem. Bush is in charge of all the agencies. He has failed and continue to make excuses for him makes you part of the problem.
Posted by Ga6thDem at September 2, 2005 09:41 AMAmtrak should have had trains with as many cars as they could hook up down there by Wed, and transporting people north and west.
If I recall correctly, because of federal cuts to Amtrak, they were talking about cutting The City of New Orleans route. Probably can't in by train that easily, either.
Posted by ann at September 2, 2005 09:50 AMGa6thDem: Bush is the one in charge of FEMA, buddy not Blanco.
Well said, and that's where the buck stops.
btw - check front page at dKos for link on details about FEMA's Brown. He had no qualifications for the job and was known to be a total incompetent when he ran an Arabian Horse Assn -- almost destroyed that one and they had to fire him.
Posted by Marie at September 2, 2005 09:53 AMLet's try that link again (not sure what went wrong).
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/2/34622/68348
or here:
Posted by Marie at September 2, 2005 09:56 AMJust to clear up a few facts...
Emergency management is under the control of the city/parrish government. The Louisiana National Guard (LNG) is under the direct control of the governor.
My posts have not been to point fingers, but to relay facts, something I thought might be of interest to people in the "reality based community", so that baseless sniping and false assumptions might be avoided by those of you who blame Bush for planetary misalignments.
Blogs offer a range of opinions, but credibility is something that matters in the rational discussion of any topic.
If in subsequent weeks it is shown that Bush was the impediment to saving lives in New Orleans, I will lead the effort to have him impeached. But if the problem lies elsewhere, I hope the others on this thread will have the intellectual honesty to admit it.
Posted by j.west at September 2, 2005 10:05 AMLet's not forget who also is in charge of the Army Corps of Engineers (federal gummint under Miserable Failure's command), the guys responsible for the maintenance/repair of the levee and canal systems.
Posted by emal at September 2, 2005 10:06 AMNew Orleans' mayor has this to say about the crisis (in an interview with Garland Robinette):
GR: You and I must be in the minority, because apparently there's a section of our citizenry out there that thinks because of a law that says the federal government can't come in unless requested by the proper people, that everything that's been going on to this point has been as good as it can possibly be.
RN: Really?
GR: I know you don't feel that way.
RN: Well... did the tsunami victims request? Did they go through a formal process to request? Did Iraq -- did the Iraqi people request that we go in there? Did they ask us to go in there?
What is more important? I tell ya man, I'm probably going to be in a whole bunch of trouble, I'm probably going to be in so much trouble it ain't even funny. You probably won't even want to deal with me after this interview is over.
Atrios notes that it took only a few days to have the US get massive help to the victims in Indonesia. Where is the water for the people?
So in your mind, j.west, it is okay for people to die because they were too stupid to protect themselves. Talk about blaming the victims. This is sick.
Posted by Mary at September 2, 2005 10:08 AMFunny you talk about the LNG...here's what their LNG commander had to say back on August 1,2005 about their preparedness (or lack thereof) for such a disaster.
Plus apparently 3000 LNG troops are in Iraq until October and sat and watched this with 6500 LNG troops available stateside (without the necessary command & control and heavy equipment to deal with said disaster) Yet Blanco requested 40,000 troops days ago far more than available under her control. Yes that would be by my calculations about 33,000 LNG troops short. So jwest...tell us again how the federal gov't bears absolutely no responsibility for the disastrous response.
Yes jwest, you jsut keep on humming and whistling by that graveyard and I mean that literally at this point.
Posted by emal at September 2, 2005 10:34 AMemal,
1400 Arkansas National Guard members have finally brought order to N.O. There is a mutual aid agreement between states to provide just this kind of relief on the request of governors.
The only limiting factor on how quickly help arrives is when it is asked for.
I'm not sure if she needs another 38,600.
Posted by j.west at September 2, 2005 11:00 AMj.west, if anyone that Bush appointed to head any of the departments that have not responded appropriately, by the very definition of negligence in hiring, he is responsible.
Posted by ann at September 2, 2005 11:10 AMjwest, oh so from your command post somewhere in the US...the amount of troops and type of equipment and resources she requested days ago is now too much and inappropriate....Wow...just wow! Are you watching tv at all? Do you see the chaos, the fires, floods,hungry and sick people? Do you see dead bodies floating in the water or on the streets occurring as we blog? You criticize her for her lack of response, but then you question what she says she needed for resources days ago to keep the peace/maintain law and order, while still rescuing and evacuating people, as well as providing medical help, food &water,and resources to put out fires and fix the levee. Yes you question those resources that no doubt would have prevented much of what we have watched play itself out now, as being unreasonable. Wow...just wow,uneffingbelievable!
open your eyes...Bush is NOT a God... he bears the ultimate responsibility for this!
Posted by emal at September 2, 2005 11:31 AMfuck off muck dog you imbecile..
Posted by headxray at September 2, 2005 01:48 PMmuckdog,
Learn what the fuck your talking about
Posted by Da Cat at September 2, 2005 04:35 PMPeaceandjoy, I have asked myself the same question.
Posted by Judith at September 2, 2005 07:33 PMWebsters Dictionary
muck (muk) n. 1. a.Moist,sticky dirt:filth. b.Mud. 2. Moist animal dung: manure. 3. Dark fertile soil containing decayed organic matter. -muck'y adj.
muckdog (muk dog) n. A dumb Bush supporting sick dog: a dumb dog covered in moist animal manure: dung
Posted by "The System" at September 2, 2005 07:44 PMMuck take a bath you sticky dog
Posted by jrt at September 2, 2005 07:45 PMand stinky
Posted by jrt at September 2, 2005 07:45 PM