No one will be fired? Well, we sort of knew that already. It looks like we may be near the floor of Bush's support, apparently about 35% will support him no matter what. On the other hand, this is Gallup and often their numbers do lean to the GOP. I looked and didn't see a party breakdown in these numbers, is one available?
Posted by rlp at September 7, 2005 03:19 PMWhen I saw this heading, I thought the movement to bring back the guillotine for the Bush family had started. I've been wishing for that since I read Barbara Bush's touching response to the Katrina victims. But your post is good, too.
Posted by Sagacity at September 7, 2005 03:20 PMI've said it before but I'll say it again. This country is dead - bush and his gang killed it. Most of the American people are morally dead. Lets face it - time to start planning to leave this graveyard.
Posted by jj at September 7, 2005 03:28 PMI saw on the sidewalk on campus today a painting of Bush's face with crossbones underneath. That's a smart artist.
Posted by Sharon at September 7, 2005 03:38 PMhow come noone on this blog ever speaks when a DEMOCRAT is completely incompetent?
"Mayor orders mandatory evacuation of New Orleans, governor says she won't sign off on decision"
That's why you losers have no credibility.
Hey Steve,
I didn't see an article on today's CNN/GALLUP poll! I wonder why?
LOSERS!!
SORRY OFF TOPIC
UNICEF is a wonderful organization to send money to if you want to help the children.
Please cut and paste to make a donation to the U.S. Fund for UNICEF for children devastated by Katrina.
https://www.unicefusa.org/site/apps/ka/sd/donor.asp?c=duLRI8O0H&b=1023563&en=gsLSLVPzEgJRJUMzEdJSLYMAKdLUIdMUKkKRJ7NLKjJUI2MHJnK7H
Posted by Judith at September 7, 2005 03:42 PMLook guys, ROOF is back!
Posted by Steve Soto at September 7, 2005 03:55 PMYeah, I saw that Gallop Poll, too. Probably for the same reason Steve hasn't talked much about the economy lately. LOL.
Chicago Fed is now worried about inflation, because the economy is pretty strong and who knows how many billions will be dumped on the economy to rebuild New Orleans, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama. Roll Tide.
Posted by muckdog at September 7, 2005 04:25 PMI thought the movement to bring back the guillotine for the Bush family had started.
Should be but we're not even close.
jj -- you mean begging for money from poor countries around the world to help the victims of Katrina while we cut taxes again for the wealthy isn't moral?
ROOF -- read more -- Democrats under fire from us all the time. Guess in your world, a life guard is supposed to do nothing when a novice swimmer gets pulled out in a sudden undertow.
Posted by Marie at September 7, 2005 04:44 PMThe only way no one gets fired is if we the public do nothing. The poll of 268 adults really has not much to say about the nation at large. Can one person randomly selected represent a million opinions?
Why right a story like this. It's as good as admitting defeat. If you really feel that at this early stage that Team Bush is involunerable you shouldn't be blogging here.
Posted by patience at September 7, 2005 05:25 PMYeah, I saw that Gallop Poll, too.
You thought that was good? It has the same 30is approval for Bush that every other poll has had. Seems like more bad news for conservatives.
Posted by Ga6thDem at September 7, 2005 05:27 PMIts a sad commentary that 30% of the country still supports this incompetent boob we call a president.
Posted by Cookie Monster at September 7, 2005 05:28 PMpatience -- since when is blogging reserved only for those who express "irrational exurberance?"
This wasn't even a particularly pessimistic projection -- I was only explaining how institutions work and the conditions precedent to head chopping. Not seeing those and that didn't even factor in how good the Rove team is at manufacturing an alternate reality.
For those you prefer to believe as long as possible that the tipping point has been reached, that a bright sun shiny day is just ahead-- and then deal with the depression of one more irrefutable negative outcome, as we have seen for the past five years, would suggest you skip my pieces for a while.
Posted by Marie at September 7, 2005 06:09 PMThe saddest commentary is that, after the amazingly irregular 2000 election, bushco was not held accountable as CinC for the 9/11 disaster.
The evidence for criminal, possibly willful, incompetence is overwhelming. Not the least of which was the 9/11 investigative machinations.
The rest is just gravy.
Tonight on the new, I saw the most unbelievable verbal exchange according to Gloria Borgie(sp?). When Bush was asked if he was going to fire the Head of FEMA, he responded with "why would I fire him?" The response was "because of all the problems." Bush then asks "what problems?"
Is Cheney keeping Bush locked up in a cage somewhere in the WH?
ROOF should slide off the roof straight into the water....
Posted by Sharon at September 7, 2005 06:57 PMFired?
I'm surprised Mike Brown hasn't been given the Medal of Freedom yet. (or maybe it should be renamed the Medal of Freeperdom)
Posted by Dave at September 7, 2005 07:30 PMHey all -- off topic
I have a question. I went to type resumes tonight and the woman who organized the effort was wondering how she could send a mass email reply to all of the volunteers (without having to add all of them to her address book). She said she's using Outlook. Any ideas?
I'll write more tomorrow about the things going on here.
Next step is Friday. I'm going to try to round up a group of my students tomorrow to go volunteer Friday afternoon and evening. They are internationals and a little worried about volunteering on their own (this is always the case -- they tend to stay home and hide for the first few weeks after arriving), but I will hold their hands and get them comfortable with it.
Wish me luck and take care all.
Posted by dorita at September 7, 2005 08:53 PMDespite the all-out Blame Bush onslaught by the media wing of the American left, new polling shows that only 13% believe that he is primarily responsible for any inadequacy of response to the disaster, and point instead to the state and local officials.
They've got it right. The responsibility for primary response is local and state, despite the left's hysteria that everything that happens must be instantly federalized. In this case the New Orleans and Louisiana governments did just about absolutely nothing. The mayor of NO complained about evacuation methods ("get every doggone Greyhound bus in the country...") when all of the buses of his school district were RIGHT THERE beforehand. Likewise the relative ease of stocking food and water at the shelter locations- which is solely a local responsibility. His subsequent hyperbole was incredible- with apalling aplomb this goof called Katrina and its aftermath "the biggest [expletive] crisis in the history of the country".
Oh, really? How about that little thing that ended in 1865, or the one that began in 1941? Not to mention the flu epidemic of 1918 that killed MORE THAN HALF A MILLION Americans. But apparently the Mayor's knowledge of history is as imperfect and tenuous as his grasp of logic and English. To quote one whose English was beyond suspicion, "methinks he doth protest too much".
His antics, and the frantic fingerpointing by the governor and Sen. Landrieu are a ploy to CYA.
And now we have the report that Bush advised both Mayor Nagin and the governor to evacuate immediately, and the mayor demurred for a further 24 hours, with the result that it could not be accomplished. The hearings will be welcome indeed.
New organizations have difficulties in their first test. Government is usually massively inefficient. Both were in evidence here. Why the surprise?
Its amusing that the left immmediately abandoned the efforts of their precious darling government as a hopeless failure and demanded to have the loathed and ee-vill military sent in immediately.
Posted by Marcus Agrippa at September 7, 2005 09:23 PMIn my earlier post, it was the Govenor, not Mayor Nagin, who delayed the decision to evacuate for an additional 24 hours.
Posted by Marcus Agrippa at September 7, 2005 09:25 PMfrom andrewsullivan.com:
I have no doubt that Blanco was far too dilatory and Nagin less than skilfull when it counted. They take their fair share of the responsibility. But you know what? Blanco and Nagin weren't elected as commanders-in-chief. The fundamental reason George W. Bush was re-elected was his commitment to national security and a government able to deal with post-9/11 real crises and calamities. That was his promise. And when the first real post 9/11 test came, he flunked it.
Posted by ann at September 7, 2005 09:50 PMGet agrippa. The call phone-op from the pretezelnutz in which he merely concurred with their idea to evacuate came just before the Gov and His Honor went conducted their previously-arranged on-air announcement of a full scale call to evacuate NO. Choke on the yellow cake and kool-aid, ma. Sounds like a sheep - maaa! (:>
Posted by Donald Cormac at September 7, 2005 09:58 PMI like the new crap they're dishing us about the wage increases proving that inflation is rearing, SO, Maestro Green "Next Bubble Please" Spamhead is still raising rates. WHAT WAGE INCREASES are they talking about?!?! Everyone knows and has been talking about how flat they've been. It must be that .2% driving us to hyper-inflation.
Today on Yahoo: >
Corps have been profiting on productivity gains as they squeeze more blood from labor for a few years now. The economy is booming FROM THE WAR - and directly into large corporations coffers.
That's right M%#_CKpuppy the economy has been inching it's way up, on borrowed money and borrowed time. Housing is topping out so free money will be difficult to find for the "middle class" (the species approaching extinction). 200 BiLLioN dollar a year deficit - what are people getting out of it? Social Security has been quietly spent by these political dumbasses as the average worker foots the bill time and time again.
You keep spouting your economic crap - while throwing in the wise (cracking) sayings of Greenshit about how housing may have topped out, etc. etc. Food and Oil aren't even in the CPI - What the hell do people NEED?!? Bush doesn't know - we got his drift on his "swift" response to Katrina. Inflation is everywhere - my real gripe is that the tax cuts for the rich and Greenspam's plans ARE KILLING THE MIDDLE CLASS and THIS COUNTRY. Now they will blame a freaking hurricane instead of their war spending and greasing the power elite and CEOs pockets (Corporate Extortion Operatives).
shut the hell up. things are bad enough where everything you say sounds incredibly naive and plain stupid..
Posted by Deng says "muck-is-plain-dumb" at September 7, 2005 10:47 PMsry: here's what was pooped out.
crap
Higher wages are one of the indicators of inflation the Federal Reserve will weigh as it considers its interest rate policy. Traders had hoped the Fed would end its year-plus march of short-term interest rate hikes after Hurricane Katrina and softer economic data released last week, but increased wages could signal a continuation of the rate hikes.
Posted by deng at September 7, 2005 10:52 PMI guess I will try for help on the Outlook email question tomorrow on a new thread -- when someone who cares is awake.
Sorry I didn't ask for help at a more appropriate time. It's my own fault.
You all (Deng, Marc, Donald et al.) seem to be wrapped up now.
I am pissed, per usual these days.
night
Dispite the rantings of the gripless one, Bush is not behing held blameless. As John Stewart noted on the Daily Show "When someone says that they don't want to play the blame game-they're to blame."
Posted by argus at September 8, 2005 06:10 AMShrug- just the usual spew and ad hominem stuff.
Posted by Marcus Agrippa at September 8, 2005 08:51 AMWhy is America less prepaired for a major disaster than it was before 911?
It's a simple question.