Dems want power back? Speak truth to power...
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld should be impeached and then arrested.
ATTENTION CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS. We know you know in your heart that what Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld have done with Iraq far exceeds the moral AND legal test for impeachment and shows them to be a clear and present danger to the United States of America. You must stand up and say so.
You have a duty to the American people, yourself and humanity to GO TO THE MAT for bi-partisan, well funded and transparent congressional investigations leading to impeachment. Shut down the governments business if that's what you have to do to move this forward and pound it into the American mind. Use whatever guerilla parliamentary procedure available to you. Say and do nothing else until the GOP agrees to investigate what any sane and just mind considers horrific crimes. No legislation, no issue, no job, nothing you can personally gain or lose is more important (or potentially politically effective) than this effort. Nothing is more important than cutting this cancer from our government. Our safety, perhaps even our very survival depends on it.
Mountains of evidence make clear these people have behaved in ways that make them war criminals and traitors. You must stop them before they take us to war again, before they sell out our national security again, before they destabilize the world to the point of no return. It is your right and your duty. Only you and your fellow elected congressional Democrats can get this done. This is why the people elected you.
Stand shoulder to shoulder, stand tall. Walk down the hall, grab your fellow elected Democrats by the collar, walk out onto the steps, and start saying what you believe. Say it loud, say it together and say it all the time, and you will drag the media and the American mind along. They have committed impeachable offences, they are destroying our national security and our good name, and they are profiting greatly from it. They must be held to account before we follow ancient Rome into the ashes of history.
I PROMISE YOU, in the end, not only will you know you've done the right thing, but you'll come out on top POLITICALLY as well. The American people will come to know traitors and criminals in their midst if you show them often enough what they look like. And in the end, they will be grateful. America needs leaders again. America needs heroes. Will you step up?
Senator Rockefeller, if you let Pat Roberts go back on his word to investigate the administrations use of intelligence, history will hunt you down and punish you in the same breath as those who have committed these despicable acts. Where are you? What could be more important than ensuring our leaders don’t twist intelligence to make fraudulent cases for war? As a member of the United States Senate you have the power to make sure this goes forward. You will have to put it on the line to be sure, but this is the right thing to do. Senator, we beg you, live up to your name. Stand tall in important ways.
Congressmen Waxman, Conyers, Lee, Rangel, thank you for all your letters, requests, complaints to the administration and the GOP leadership. You have done far more than most. You have shown you know right from wrong, that you have a heart, and you retain most of your humanity. But all that and a buck will buy America a cup of coffee. You have said many words that needed to be spoken. But it is clear we need different words now. We need words like IMPEACHEMENT and ARREST. Words like TREASON and HIGH CRIMES. Words like WAR PROFITEERING and CORRUPTION.
We, the American people, need to hear from you how the conservatives SOLD OUT THE SECURITY OF OUR COUNTRY, OF OUR CHILDREN AND OUR LOVED ONES in order to try and COVER UP THEIR FRAUDLENT CASE FOR WAR. They LIED to bring this nation to war. We need to hear these words from you and your fellow congressional Democrats EVERY DAY.
These are simple concepts and the evidence is clear. Once you push these words and ideas into the American mind the game will be over. In fact, you have the chance to crush the Republican Party. With this war and the way in which we were driven to it you have the great weight of the truth. Avail yourselves of it often enough and you will crush the conservative movement.
It is clear the intransigence of this administration and the GOP leadership knows no bounds. They won’t budge until the American people demand it. The way to make that happen is for you and your fellow Democrats to shut-it-all-down, by whatever means necessary, until the evidence and consequences of their crimes are detailed in congressional investigations and front and center in our media culture. Your action will force Joe Sixpack to come to a conclusion about what you are saying. The cold, hard reality of the evidence and a few GOP rats fleeing the ship to avoid the rising water will take care of the rest.
You owe your constituents and humanity a course of action that is effective. Time is short. The situation is dire. Our rate of decay is exponential. We’re losing entire cities at a time. Impeachment was designed to save the nation from just this kind of leadership. It’s time for you to get out there and speak truth to power.
Now is your time. Write a chapter of great American history or forever be damned to the footnotes in another tale of empire gone by. America as we know it depends on your actions in the next weeks and months. History has an especially keen eye on these days. May it hold you in high regard. God speed…
Posted by The Truth at September 18, 2005 08:46 PMAs a member of generation X, I was pleased when about a month ago the age 30-49 group showed a tiny lead for the Democrats. Now, I see that lead has grown to about 10 points. I'm used to being in the minority amongst people my age, we've been known as a strongly Republican voting group scince the first of us voted in the early 80's. If this lead holds up, especally amongst what has been a base GOP group until now, the GOP really will be toast next year.
Posted by rlp at September 18, 2005 09:32 PMThey have nothing to lose by opposing bushco. They have nothing to lose by saying no.
The polls give them the word from the people. The people keep telling them, stop these fascists, these soulless corporate elitists.
It's like shooting free throws. Nobody is trying to stop you, so shoot away.
Posted by Duckman GR at September 18, 2005 10:03 PMNow that it seems the general public (at least Independents and Democrats) are planning to vote Democratic, let's make sure they vote for the right kind of Democrats. No more of these wishy-washy leaders who stand for nothing. If we don't get the right kind of Democrats in office, then this anticipated victory will be shallow and short lived.
Posted by exLogCabin at September 18, 2005 10:43 PMHastert got a letter in January saying funds for FEMA were being raded and we were heading for a disaster. The GOP has proven again and again that it is unfit to govern. Lets all read the letter, shall we?
http://www.floods.org/PDF/ASFPM_Letter_FEMAinDHS_House_Jan05.pdf
Posted by The Truth at September 19, 2005 12:09 AMDemocrats will win whatever number of races Diebold, Rove and various state Secretaries of State allow them to. It'll probably be just enough to fall short of a congressional majority in either house and yet sufficient in number to relegate those alleging fraud to the land of Tin Foil Hat lunatics.
Posted by steve duncan at September 19, 2005 05:28 AMWell, this is good news and all, but without serious meaningful election reform, Mr. Duncan is dead on. I'm not holding my breath or expecting anything from the American voter after 2004.
Remember all those life-long Repubs who supposedly were going to vote for Kerry? They didn't.
Posted by euzoius at September 19, 2005 06:30 AMrlp,
Gen-Xers are not as solidly Republican as the later Baby Boomers. I would split the Gen-Xers in half, actually. Technically Gen-X means anybody born between 1964 and 1978 (I was born in 1973). Gen-Y is 1978-1992. And Millenium Generation is 1992 to today. Those in the early part of the Gen X, say 1964-1968, are more solidly Republican. They started voting in the early 1980s. But the later Gen Xers (me, for example) started voting in 1992 and were solid Clinton supporters. Also, the early Gen Xers are more socially liberal than even the later Baby Booomers, because they grew up in the late 1960s and 1970s and thus have no memory of things being "more moral" in their own youth.
I should add to my above post that Gen Y could have become a Republican generation because of 9/11. But Iraq made sure that will never happen.
Posted by at September 19, 2005 07:05 AMYou guys are dreaming if you think you're going to sweep to victory in the 2006 congressional races. If they were held today, maybe, but November 2006 is a long ways away and the collective memory of Americans is short indeed.
Now on the previous post about impeaching Bush,
I will remind you that the Congress voted the authority to go to war, not once but twice. So if any impeaching is to be done, then all 400 or so members of congress need to go to (including Democrats)
It was universally believed that the WMD's existed, in the Clinton admin as well as Bush as well as Congress.
If you want to impeach for an error (which I don't think it is) then watch out!!!!!!!
Posted by ERIC at September 19, 2005 09:51 AMEric,
That's sick. The deliberately lied to bring this nation to war. They cherry picked intel to make a dishonest case for war. Anybody who can't see that is either so divorced from reality or so despicable a person as to not to merit any further discussion.
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Posted by karl rove at September 19, 2005 12:15 PMElrod,
You bring up some interesting points and I agree that the age breakdown listed doesn't excatly breakdown generationally. Maybe I should have added that I use the birthyears in the Strauss and Howe classic Generations. In other words, the boomers were born 1943-60, gen. x 1961-81 and the millinnals 1981 to about 2000. I strongly believe in historical cycles and would be interested in other books on the subject.
BTW, I too see the millinnals as likely to become a Democratic dominant generation. Iraq is a part of that but also the fact that as some have noted ever scince the "baby on board" signs appeared in the early 80's these young people have been raised to be more "team players" than their elders were and to put more value on the common good of whatever group they percieve themselves to be in than in "one bettering" their peers. This public spirit, Strauss and Howe call the millinnals a civic generation, much like their grandparents the GI's who were born from 1901-24 and fought and won WWII. The GI's I will add were the young generation who strongly supported FDR and other Democrats. In America, a generation that is raised to put a high value on the common good such as the GI and the millinnals will find the Democrats more in tune with their values than the Republicans.
Interesting topic, thanks for responding.
Posted by rlp at September 19, 2005 01:38 PMBTW, I too see the millinnals as likely to become a Democratic dominant generation. Iraq is a part of that but also the fact that as some have noted ever scince the "baby on board" signs appeared in the early 80's these young people have been raised to be more "team players" than their elders were and to put more value on the common good of whatever group they percieve themselves to be in than in "one bettering" their peers.
rlp, I have to disagree with this. What I see in this generation, sometimes referred to as the "entitlement generation," is a selfishness I associate more with Republicans. They were raised as the center of the universe, where everyone who played soccer got a trophy regardless of how they played.
I also see a growing number of younger people who seem to identify with Republicans because they see them as "winners" and don't want to be associated with the Democrats who they see as "losers." It matters not what they actually believe, but it seems that money is the most important thing. Certainly, service to their country is a foreign concept to most, and should grow even worse given the negative reaction to the war in Iraq.
BTW, I was born in 1963 and do not consider myself a Gen Xer at all. I think there is a group of us who fall between the Baby Boomer generation and Gen X who never got on the affinity bandwagon.
Posted by ann at September 19, 2005 03:00 PMTo "the truth":
What an interesting name considering that there's not a shred of truth in what you are saying.
Eric was the one telling the truth. The Dem's in the Senate DID vote for the Iraq war. In fact, they demanded a debate and vote on it heading into the 2002 mid-term elections. So if Bush lied about the war, then the Dem's would also have to be included in being "divorced from reality" and "despicable" as you put it because they voted for it!!!!! That would include Hillary Clinton by the way.
I see you've also employed the liberals trick of personally attacking anyone who dares to have a point of view other than yours. I guess your not able to address the issues he raised. I'm not surprised. To do that would require some actual thinking on your part. Your shrill postings are exactly why I'm not worried about the Dem's winning next year.
For homework you might also want to read the speech Clinton gave in 1998 that Eric referred to. He said exactly the same thing regarding Iraq that Bush did in 2002.
That's the real truth.
Posted by The Real Truth at September 19, 2005 05:00 PMann,
Look at the voting trends from last year as well as polls such as this one. Yes, I know some 20ish goppers, no generation is ever going to be 100% of anything, but a pro Democratic trend among today's youth is probabally why Rove had Bush try to sell young workers on the lie that Social Security wouldn't be there for them. They're numberically larger than the boomers and as they age and vote in higher numbers if their current pro Democratic prefenence, a preference Bushco's Iraq war is strenghtening, continues the Republican's will be the minority party for at least 20 years.
On defining generations, some say that anyone born between 1960 and 1966 is a 'tweener. As I was also born in that era I too experenced the change from the sixties influenced youth culture to the reaction that came later. Unfortunatily, 7 years does not make a true generation, it takes about 20. You have to draw the lines somewhere and the boundries Strauss and Howe use make more sense to me than anything else I;m familiar with. Nevertheless, I too am in the subgroup of 'tweeners that you're alluding to.
Posted by rlp at September 19, 2005 05:40 PMthe Republican's will be the minority party for at least 20 years
Believe me, I certainly hope so. I just don't see it myself. At least not with the 20somethings I come into contact with. Most of them don't even bother to vote, let alone watch the news beyond Entertainment Tonight.
Posted by ann at September 19, 2005 07:27 PM"The real (f@cked up) truth"
There was an international effort to isolate and contain Saddam Hussein. Much was done and said in that effort. Clinton said a lot. Resolutions were passed. Votes were made. And all that worked brilliantly. Iraq had not one drop of WMD and they were no threat to anybody outside their border. Don't believe me? How about Colin Powell?
"We should constantly be reviewing our policies, constantly be looking at those sanctions to make sure that they are directed toward that purpose. That purpose is every bit as important now as it was ten years ago when we began it. And frankly they have worked. He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors. So in effect, our policies have strengthened the security of the neighbors of Iraq, and these are policies that we are going to keep in place." - Colin Powell, FEB 2001
You and your people lied this country into war. You should all be strung up by your b@lls. You are all going to rot in hell. Take that to the bank.
Posted by The Truth at September 20, 2005 01:14 AMTo The Truth:
You actually were making an intellectual argument (albiet false), until the "rot in hell" sentence. LOL. You Dem's are just two amusing. Can't you make an argument without resorting to obsenities?
By the way, does that also include Bill Clinton, who said exactly the opposite of Colin Powell in 1998?
BTW, I suggest you read the resolution that your Democratic Senators voted on that approved the war in Iraq (I have). The Wmd issue was not the main reason for going to war with Iraq. It was item #3 on the resolution. The number one reason was Saddam's ties to Al-Qaeda. And don't give me that crap about their not being any because even your Dem's in the Senate believed that.
You might want to read Stephen Hayes book about it to educate yourself. Even the Clinton Admin Justice dept. said so.
But I doubt you'll check into it. Why let facts get in the way of a good shrill ranting?
Posted by The Real Truth at September 20, 2005 04:20 AMI thougth it would be enjoyable to get some debate going on some of these hot topics, but it quickly turned vulgar and nasty. To "The Truth", you will be a much happier human being if you stop viewing politics in such a black and white way. If you put your faith in people, or a particular political movement, or a particular politician, you will always be disappointed and unhappy with what they do. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean that they are "despicable" or should rot in "hell". You don't even know me or the other poster who backed me up. In my opinion this is what's wrong with politics at the moment.
I wish you peace and godspeed.....