Couldn't happen to a nicer guy!
Hahhahahahahahahaaha.
Hope he shares a cell with Rove and Bu$hCo.
The Rise and Fall of the Third Idiocracy. I believe I like it!. Now, if they put Mr. Hammer in the slammer, well rock on.
Posted by tempus at September 28, 2005 09:53 AMThere goes hell, freezing over again.
Posted by ann at September 28, 2005 09:54 AMWOW
Posted by RLP at September 28, 2005 10:00 AMThe Bugman gets stepped on like the cockroach he is.
By the way, who's that old, grey-haired guy on the left in the picture? No, I don't mean "Ming-the-Merciless" Chertoff. Dumbya doesn't look as fit as he claims he is. Actually he looks like he shit his pants yet again.
Posted by Tibor at September 28, 2005 10:02 AMIs it Delay in the kitchen with his hand in the cookie jar...Fristy in the alley hocking stock certs or the Rovian one outing our own intelligence officers that finally sink the ship?...toss in a couple of 'canes', civil war in Iraq...drug lords winning the Afghan election in Kabul....Dear Leader is not having a good quarter....I know I'm sad...NOT!
Posted by Goyo at September 28, 2005 10:04 AMHe ain't convicted yet.
He may be stepping down temporarily but I'll be content when he's gone for good.
Posted by muckcat at September 28, 2005 10:05 AMGood one, Ann. I find it hard to believe that The Lay is a Weight Watchers spokesman.
Posted by tempus at September 28, 2005 10:06 AMThe price of gold has gone straight up the wall (now $469.60 up $7.20/oz) since this news broke....this spells turmoil for the Administration.
Posted by Goyo at September 28, 2005 10:10 AMBy the way, who's that old, grey-haired guy on the left in the picture?
He let my picture get destroyed(in more ways than one) by Kitrina.
Posted by Dorian Grey at September 28, 2005 10:15 AMSpeaking of bloated white Republicans, former Governor George Ryan trial started here in Illinois:
"George Ryan was supposed to be a public servant, he was a state constitutional officer ... and so he owed a duty of honest services to the taxpayers of Illinois," Fardon said. "He violated that duty ... to enrich himself."
Posted by ann at September 28, 2005 10:16 AMBurn Bitch, Burn!!!
Posted by DMC at September 28, 2005 10:23 AMSo the meme is that Earle is a partisan Democrat.
I suppose that opens up John Roberts to being dismissed as a partisan Republican?
Turnabout is fair play.
Posted by snark at September 28, 2005 10:29 AMYes, it's a start, (Snoopy dance!, okay, um, erm, harumph) and he ain't in jail just yet, but this is a benchmark that people can see and feel.
Indicted for criminal conspiracy. Criminal. Conspiracy.
Maybe this helps the Democrats visualize that resistence is NOT futile, but that it is hard work, and that it starts, just like any criminal prosecution (just love saying Criminal when discussing bushco) with a good foundation. Like a foundation of OPPOSITION.
DEMONSTRATED OPPOSITION.
Posted by Duckman GR at September 28, 2005 10:34 AMIt's morning in America! One prominent thug from the thugocracy down, many more to go.
Posted by ran at September 28, 2005 10:36 AMRonnie Earle, smooches, is a "Good 'ol Partisan Democrat" dammit, and he doesn't take shit from nobody!
Posted by Duckman GR at September 28, 2005 10:36 AMThe Hammer, The Slammer....has a nice ring to it.
Now they got the gay repug as majority leader. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch.
Posted by at September 28, 2005 10:43 AMThe whole "partisan witch-hunt" defense may work OK before one is actually indicted, but it makes a lousy defense in court.
Posted by dj moonbat at September 28, 2005 10:43 AMDeLay may step aside but anyone thinking the strings of power will be severed is deluded. His replacement will be the proverbial sock puppet, probably needing permission for even a bathroom break.
Can this be actually happening? Pray for Libby and Rove to be indicted next!!
What no trolls yet?
Posted by bushblowsturdblossom at September 28, 2005 10:45 AMThe word on conservative blogs is that these are "trumped up charges" and they're trying to say that prosecutor Earle only goes after Rep politicians. Desperate Republicans say such foolish things.
I found this from a 60 Minutes segment on the topic:
"Active candidate evaluation and recruitment. Message development. Market research and issue development," says Stahl. "I mean, how is that administrative?"
"Active candidate evaluation and recruitment, that’s a party of administrative procedure," says Carter. "That’s a party function."
"I thought administration was the running of the office. The Xerox machine. Paying bills," says Stahl.
I'm a non profit accountant. I can tell you that those expenses are definitely not administrative in function - they are not overhead.
Posted by ann at September 28, 2005 10:57 AMHannity, Rush, etc - "Crap! How am I going to explain this one to the masses... Liberal Media? Liberal Courts? Cindy Sheehan? Ted Kennedy? Crap!"
Posted by Tex at September 28, 2005 11:01 AMI...uh....barely ever meet...uh.... Mr. Delay.
Maybe...uh...once or twice in...uh...passing.
Posted by Dubya at September 28, 2005 11:12 AMI don't know why Steve thinks Dreier is a better TV personality for the GOP. Sure he is nicely manicured and more eloquent than Delay but he has all the force of a wet paper bag. Besides being Schwarzenegger's biggest backer, he is a pure yes-man who parrots the Administration's increasingly unpopular arguments. Nothing he says on TV carries much weight. I would compare him to Gillespie and Mehlman in this regard. And don't forget that he is a gay Republican, not exactly the posterboy Dobson wants.
Posted by Ben at September 28, 2005 11:13 AMSteve... Josh Marshall has a different take on the David Dreier thing. He says that someone like Dreier doesn't have the juice to be Majority Leader.. that Hastert is planning on just a temporary replacement. If the GOP thought this was permanent (ie. ensuing conviction), then they would have put Roy Blunt up there.
Read Josh here: http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2005_09_25.php#006651
Posted by TimW at September 28, 2005 11:14 AMPeople. People!
Let's all remember something.
It's not like he got a blowjob in the Oval Office fer Christ sake.
It's just Criminal Conspiracy.
Posted by snark at September 28, 2005 11:14 AMIf anyone saw Dreier on Bill Maher's show, he was a limp noodle compared to DeLay. No emotion, rigid, almost bufoon like. This definately a plus for the Dems. Now will they please show that they have some balls and start standing up in unity for something!
Posted by bbtb at September 28, 2005 11:23 AMBen: You so funny! "...being Schwarzenegger's biggest backer." You mean "being Schwarzenegger's bare backer." Bwahahahaha! I crack myself up. Anyway, now its ON TO OHIO with pitchforks and torches for Mr. Blackwell's head on a pike. What say you all? (:>
Posted by Donald Cormac at September 28, 2005 11:26 AM...he was a limp noodle compared to DeLay. No emotion, rigid, almost bufoon like.
Wait a minute.
Are we talking about Daschle or Dreier?
Posted by snark at September 28, 2005 11:39 AMOne thing that has to scare The Slammer Hammer is that trials tend to take a long time. His next election is 13 months away; I would be really surprised if the trial were finished by then. So even if the charges don't end up sticking--and conspiracy isn't always easy to prove--DeLay could have real electoral problems.
It's not inconceivable that the TX democratic party could find somebody conservative enough to convince all but DeLay's most rabid supporters that it's safe to stay home from the polls. I'm sure that the voters in Sugarland would rather have the right-wingiest guy they can find, but they'd probably tolerate a guy who seems Pretty Darned Conservative instead, if it meant that they were getting somebody who wasn't corrupt--yet.
Posted by dj moonbat at September 28, 2005 11:44 AMChertoff and this guy. Seperated at birth?
Posted by makes ya go hmmmmm! at September 28, 2005 11:52 AM... they're trying to say that prosecutor Earle only goes after Rep politicians. Desperate Republicans say such foolish things.
They do indeed! Even CNN is presenting the facts: only three politicians indicted (out of something like twelve) were GOP - ALL THE REST WERE DEMS.
Let's see the GOProles stick that in their cracked pipes and smoke it!
Posted by pessimist at September 28, 2005 11:55 AM... they're trying to say that prosecutor Earle only goes after Rep politicians. Desperate Republicans say such foolish things.
I hope the Wurlitzer gives us lots of time to talk about this. Let's see, which is more likely?
That may fly on Fox News, but no other news outlet is going to bother pretending that DeLay's past is clean.
Posted by dj moonbat at September 28, 2005 12:06 PMAw, Mama can this really be the end? hee hee hee
Posted by Andy at September 28, 2005 12:10 PMAndy,
No, it's just the beginning and you ain't seen nothin' yet.
Posted by oracle at September 28, 2005 12:23 PMWhen will the other shoes drop?
Mr. Fitzgerald?
Mr. Spitzer?
Posted by Vinnie at September 28, 2005 12:55 PMThis is just the tip of the iceberg!
Jonathan
Posted by at September 28, 2005 12:56 PMAhhhh Centrist.
Claims the moral high ground once again and immediately proceeds to highdive into the muck.
DeLay isn't accused of taking illegal money Centrist. He's accused of funneling money illegally to others.
Posted by snark at September 28, 2005 01:00 PMBefore we get too carried away here, look at what Liberal Oasis has to say.
Much like they didn’t let losing the popular vote in 2000 deprive them of political capital, they hope that their brazenness -- combined with a weak opposition and a easily manipulated media – will override their poor approval ratings and generate just enough capital to get the job done.
What does that mean for Dems?
It means that it’s not enough to crow about low GOP poll numbers. While it may make enacting their agenda more difficult, it by no means kills it with a silver bullet.
Nor does it mean that Dems are powerless in the face of the GOP machine.
It simply means that political capital must be taken, on a case-by-case basis.
They don't care about anything but the end results. Like BartCop says over and over, "If a mistake makes them billions of dollars, you can be guaranteed they'll keep repeating the same mistake UNTIL SOMEBODY STOPS THEM.
That Somebody has to be the Democrats at this point, because the goppers won't stop until we make them stop, and no amount of dry powder, or cooperation, or bi-partisanship, or deference to the president's choices Senator Feingold will accomplish that.
Posted by Duckman GR at September 28, 2005 01:01 PMCome help us out with our Quick Vote.
Should Tom DeLay resign from Congress?
Posted by Wolf Blitzer at September 28, 2005 01:10 PMStart practicing your bitter "the fix is in" speeches now for when DeLay is acquitted.
Posted by at September 28, 2005 01:18 PMStart practicing your bitter "the fix is in" speeches now for when DeLay is acquitted.
As I noted above, even acquittal may not necessarily save DeLay's bacon. And even if he's re-elected and acquitted, this indictment hurts him, though the damage is tough to quantify.
Nonetheless, your advice is good. I'll start working on a bitter "fix is in" screed in just a minute, once I finish off this champagne.
Posted by dj moonbat at September 28, 2005 01:50 PMIn CO, one thing that hurt the GOPer's was the 11th hour redistricting. Can this all finally be catching up in TX as well? If DeLay goes down in the next election, will the tides of power return to the likes of Jim Hightower?
I sure hope so!!
DeLay is lower than the bacteria in the NY sewer system. But he will get off scot-free. Why? His associates and supporters, both large and small, are indebted to him for favours received, and no one in the Party dares to speak out against him.
DeLay exudes all the charm of a vomiting two-year old. He can and does order Florida hits if it suits his purpose, and I think that the Taliban could learn a thing or two from him. DeLay photocopied Hughie Long's playbook and has refined it. What do you think of Cheney/Delay in '08?
Cheney/Delay in '08?
Scum & Scummier'08!
What do you think of Cheney/Delay in '08?
That would be out-freaking-standing. Both of them just look mean as hell. For God's sake, DeLay looks like a man who kicks puppies.
Posted by dj moonbat at September 28, 2005 02:22 PMdj, how about Frist/DeLay in '08? A cat skinner and a puppy kicker.........
Posted by steve duncan at September 28, 2005 02:25 PMThis just in from UPS. Michael Brown has been named temporary successor to Tom DeLay as House Leader. An unnamed Republican representative stated "He has more experience in screwing up, and we recognize and reward experience in this area". In other news, Tom DeLay today ordered two dozen condoms and a set of pink silk pajamas from Macy’s.
Posted by tempus at September 28, 2005 02:34 PMWhat no trolls yet? Posted by bushblowsturdblossom
They are waiting to get their talking points from the Party. They can't write when they don't know the what the party line will be.
You guys are having a banner week - first the anit-war rally (actually the pro-war as long as the US and Israel lose rally), Cindy Sheehan getting media attention by being arrested (even I'll admit that was a brilliant move on her part), and now the Delay indictment. Enjoy the moment and feel good about yourselves because I predict it won't last long.
If Delay is found guilty then he should face the consequences and be punished. But if any of you have actually read the indictment you know that there's is very little indictable info about Delay. It's pretty shaby in fact. I doubt he will be convicted. I doubt the MSM has read it either. There too busy announcing the death of the Bush Admin, just like they reported that people were being raped and killed in the Superdome when nothing of the sort happened. Eventually facts will catch up with the hysteria as it always does (does forged documents ring a bell).
I was astounded at a post DJ put out earlier this morning in which he indicated that the Dem's could run a moderate conservative and win Delay's seat. Let me get this straight: The evil, Satanic Tom Delay can only be beaten by a Dem running as a mod conservative?? Unbelievable. If Delay is so bad, then the people in his district would surely replace him. Why couldn't that person run as a full fledged liberal? The answer is either one of 3 things: the Dem's can't as who they really are (they'd get trounced) and have to mask themselves by appearing to be moderate, they have no stanmds on the issues (which is a chronic problem), or you yourself have no confidence that a real liberal could win.
Posted by The Real Truth at September 28, 2005 05:37 PMIf Delay is so bad, then the people in his district would surely replace him. Why couldn't that person run as a full fledged liberal?
spend much time in texas?
Posted by at September 28, 2005 05:50 PMRLP, and muckcat,
RLP:Wow is right. Excuse my french, but I am happy as hell that this dumbass is in the slammer. I hope they throw away the key. This man needs to be locked up
Muckcat:I hope this man isn't stepping down temporally. I hope is ass is gone for good.
(to nobody)
Now all we have to do is get the rest of these dummies out of office, def. Cokehead bush
Posted by jimmy at September 28, 2005 06:07 PMLet me get this straight: The evil, Satanic Tom Delay can only be beaten by a Dem running as a mod conservative?? Unbelievable. If Delay is so bad, then the people in his district would surely replace him. Why couldn't that person run as a full fledged liberal?
This is hardly the first time DeLay has gotten in trouble, and the voters in his district have yet to punish him.
Think of it this way: If Barney Frank were in trouble, but had not yet been convicted do you think that voters in his district would vote for a conservative Republican just to get rid of the taint of corruption? Hellz, no--they're Taxachusetts Liberals. But if a RINO were running, with impeccable civil liberties credentials, they'd give it some thought.
Posted by dj moonbat at September 28, 2005 06:08 PMfirst the anit-war rally (actually the pro-war as long as the US and Israel lose rally)
More ignorance from one who wouldn't know the real truth if it bit him. It's chickenhawks like you who support keeping our troops in a disintegrating land that is likely to be in a civil war by the end of this year.
Posted by rlp at September 28, 2005 06:18 PMTo DJ - your point is well taken. You are exactly right.
Rlp - Yawn. You guys have been predicting a civil war in Iraq since the war started. Of course, we've never had one of those in this country have we? You should go back and study the founding of this country and how deep the divisions were between North and South even then. I guess you would have said it wasn't worth it.
BTW, the land is not disentegrating. There going to pass a constitution on Oct 15th. You really need to push aside that pessimism.
Secondly, did you watch the entire rally. I did. And the last half was 90% pro-palestine, anti-Israel. That means they were anti-US also. And if they were really anti-war, where were the "No to Jihad" signs, or the "Al-Qaeda out of Iraq" signs like there were for Israel out of Palestine. Do you have an answer for that?
And the last half was 90% pro-palestine, anti-Israel. That means they were anti-US also.
So disagreeing with Israeli policy toward the Palestinians makes one anti-US?
That's a genuine brain fart if ever I read one.
Posted by muckcat at September 28, 2005 07:09 PMAnd if they were really anti-war, where were the "No to Jihad" signs, or the "Al-Qaeda out of Iraq" signs like there were for Israel out of Palestine. Do you have an answer for that?
Last time I checked the US was not financially underwriting the jihadists with direct military aid. Well not anymore anyway. In case you didn't know Israel is the biggest recipient of US foreign and military aid. Washington enables Israeli policy. US tax payer dollars enable Israeli policy. That's why US tax payers were protesting Israeli and US policies that they disagree with in the US capital. What would be the point of protesting Jihadists in front of the White House?
TRT, If we, the United States don't bring the Sunni's to the table and demand rights and an income for them, there will be a civil war. You Repukes are so much about taking responsibility, then realize we started that shit in Iraq. Take responsibility for it and help the Sunni's out. Sunni cooperation=saved American lives. Not even a new Iraqi Gov. will bring the Sunni's to the table. It's like one tribe telling another tribe to do something, it will not happen in that country! It's a pride thing, they would rather die!
Additionally, the Administration did not even listen to the Israeli's on securing the Iraqi borders after we took over Iraq. Look at the fucking border mess now!
This is the most inept exit strategy policy for a war, ever. Makes you think we don't want out.
Oh shit, the people have caught on!!
Posted by bushblowsturdblossom at September 28, 2005 07:34 PMTo Tim,
First of all, we should be supporting Israel any way we can. My God man have you not noticed that Arabs in the Middle east have been trying to eradicate the Jews off the face of the earth since 1948!!! The goal of Hammas and the PLO is to destroy Israel, not to remove them from Palestine. If you can't understand this then you are the one with the problem, not me. And the groups that front these rallys want Israel destroyed. Sorry if you're too blinded for your hatred of Bush to see this.
To Bushblows (real nice and classy alias btw)
I'm confused. You guys want us out of Iraq then you want us to force the Iraqi's to make concessions with the Sunni's (which they already have). Can you guys be consistent on anything??
You guys have been predicting a civil war in Iraq since the war started. Of course, we've never had one of those in this country have we? You should go back and study the founding of this country and how deep the divisions were between North and South even then. I guess you would have said it wasn't worth it.
First, the main reason the killing between the Sunnis, Shiites and the Kurds hasn't been worse thus far is because the eletes of the Shiites and the Kurds have restrained their peoples. They both still have hopes of retaining oil revenues through local autonomy and still being part of a larger Iraq. The Sunnis cannot abide this long term. The Sunnis have nothing to gain long term, this is why there is an insurgency. As it becomes clearer that the Sunnis will not agree to any compromise, the more militant Kurds and Shiites are unlikely to remain restrained making civil war more likely.
My family is painfully aware of the divisions between north and south before, during and after the civil war. We deal with it even today, all southern families do. My people were white smallholders in the highlands of western North Carolina circa 1860. My people held no slaves and did not desire succession, but ended up fighting alongside their neighbors against the yankee invaders. They more or less lost everything at the end of the war and only truly recovered when the TVA modernized the area. Even today my family is split. They were all Democrats until the time of Reagan. Now we are split between a largely undereducated Bush supporting pro confederate group and those of us who look more fondly at the new deal period when grandad worked for the CCC.
Yes, I am familiar with the War of Northern Aggression, sir.
My God man have you not noticed that Arabs in the Middle east have been trying to eradicate the Jews off the face of the earth since 1948!!!
In 1948, of course, a lot of area Arabs lost their homes to provide the real estate necessary for this "Israel" project. I feel safe predicting that if you lost your current home to make a homeland for a Native American tribe--a tribe that was long ago displaced and/or destroyed by European settlers--you'd be pissed. Really pissed. You might even fight those Native Americans. I wouldn't blame you.
Posted by dj moonbat at September 28, 2005 08:12 PMMy God man have you not noticed that Arabs in the Middle east have been trying to eradicate the Jews off the face of the earth since 1948!!!
And the nazis before them. And the Roman Catholics before them.
What does any of that have to do with your contention that being against Isreali policy is anti-US? It so happens that many people in this country don't think we should be subsidizing the slaughter and degradation of Palestinians with their tax money. I may be mistaken but I believe thay have that right. And it isn't anti-US.
The goal of Hammas and the PLO is to destroy Israel, not to remove them from Palestine. If you can't understand this then you are the one with the problem, not me.
Again, what does that have to do with any Americans right to protest the policies that their government pursues. I have no problem. Did I indicate that you have a problem? Anyway, I'm not the one who feels a need to try and give some illusory validity to my comments by calling myself "The Real Truth".
And the groups that front these rallys want Israel destroyed.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion. As are those who were protesting.
Sorry if you're too blinded for your hatred of Bush to see this.
Did I even mention George Bush? You'd be a lot more interesting to debate if you were actually interested in the truth instead of just setting up and trying to knock down strawmen. As it is you just come across as a putz.
Posted by Tim at September 28, 2005 08:28 PM"You guys are having a banner week - first the anit-war rally (actually the pro-war as long as the US and Israel lose rally)'
- The Real "Truth"
*****
Newsflash, dickface. That shit don't sell anymore. Your party is the party of treason (Rove), corruption (DeLay) and greed (Frist).
Your worldview is being revealed to all the world as the ghoulish corpse that it is. Enjoy the fucking maggots.
Posted by thunderhawk at September 28, 2005 09:15 PMTo Rlp - I understand your point but I still don't agree with you. The fact that the Shiites and the Kurds are making ANY concessions to the Sunnis is astounding. We didn't exactly make any consessions to the slaves when we were founding the country. We'll just have to wait and see. Events in real time will settle this one.
to tim - "It so happens that many people in this country don't think we should be subsidizing the slaughter and degradation of Palestinians with their tax money."
What in the crap are you talking about? Israel is not the one going over to Palestine and blowing up restaurants and buses. When they defend themselves against Palestinian agression there strikes are pinpointed against the terrorists. Israel has not purposely attacked innocent people. I remind you that in 2000 Clinton brokered an amazing concession from Israle but Arafat refused it. The Palestianians are where they are because there so called leaders have rejected compromise.
Notice I did not say the protesters did not have a right to protest. Or that they themselves were anti-US or anti-Israel. I said that the organizers (ANSWER and others) were that way. Go read Hitchens article about this at slate.com. He may not be as liberal as George Galloway, but he's no conservative.
Posted by The Real Truth at September 29, 2005 05:07 AMIsrael has not purposely attacked innocent people.
Just as the US has not purposely attacked innocent Iraqis but you wouldn't propose that no innocent Iraqis have been killed by US attacks would you. Again, you set up a strawman. I never said Israel purposely attacked innocent Palestinians did I? I said the protestors were protesting US financed slaughter and degradation. Are you saying that not a single innocent Palestinian has been killed in Israeli attacks? Delusional if so. A dead innocent Palestinian has been slaughtered whether the Israelis intended to kill him/her or not.
Notice I did not say the protesters did not have a right to protest. Or that they themselves were anti-US or anti-Israel. I said that the organizers (ANSWER and others) were that way.
Did you then? Perhaps you can point out where you referred to "ANSWER" or "the organizers".
Here are your words in reference to the protest;
...first the anit-war rally (actually the pro-war as long as the US and Israel lose rally),
And the last half was 90% pro-palestine, anti-Israel. That means they were anti-US also. And if they were really anti-war, where were the "No to Jihad" signs, or the "Al-Qaeda out of Iraq" signs like there were for Israel out of Palestine.
Is there a reference to ANSWER or to the organizers in there? I didn't see it. Typical wingnut sociopath. Just keep lying. To admit you are just spewing bullshit would cause your entire worldview to crumble around you. You and your ilk are really sad.
Posted by Tim at September 29, 2005 05:56 AMTRT, Is this better. It's for those nice and classy guys, bu$h and rove!! They certainly don't deserve any respect, but that's just me!
Posted by bbtb at September 29, 2005 06:59 AMBTW, Since were stuck in Iraq, I'm for anything that will save our soldiers lives! If that means bringing the Sunni's to the table, then so be it! If that means trying to force a treaty upon the Sunni's, Shia, and the Kurds, I'm for it!
But why are we really there, the OIL, man, the OIL! bu$h doesn't care who's kids he has to kill to protect the OIL! He doesn't care if they end up in civil war, he doesn't care if thousands of Iraqi's die, he cares only about the OIL!!