Popcorn and chips please, with a nice cold beverage!
Posted by John B. at October 12, 2005 07:20 AMI think it's apparent Fitzgerald has many nuts in a vice and several tits in a wringer. If you always tell the truth it's easy to recall what you may have said months or years earlier, limited only to your recollection of the FACTS at that time. When you've lied, and told different lies to different people at various times, your memory is perjury just waiting to happen. Fitzgerald already has several people dead to rights and now it's just backroom negotiations as to how much punishment he chooses to inflict. About now there's more flipping and rolling going on than in a high school gym class.
Posted by steve duncan at October 12, 2005 07:51 AMLOL I bet if you have a poll at NewsMax, FNC, RWN, or FreeRepublic they would negate any poll on that ‘lefty made up scandal blog.’ BTW how is that Downing Street Memo hullabaloo going? Any traction on the story yet or are there journalists jumping over each other to get interviews with the principles? What did Richard Clark know and who knew that he knew anything? Remember that feeling because you will feel that same way when Fitzgerald wraps up his made up scandal/fishing expedition/witch hunt and has nothing to show for it. After which you all will yap and yip for days how Fitzgerald was a political hack and a closet Karl Rove operative.
Posted by Cyber Sarge at October 12, 2005 08:18 AMI recommend Wm. Rivers Pitt's column today in TruthOut, titled "Ideological Prozac, American Style" in which he states the not-yet-spoken, but the naked truth, about the Fitzgerald investigation:
"It isn't about perjury, or contempt, or any other low-rent charge.....they have committed premeditated first-degree murder on a massive scale, assault, conspiracy to commit same, with grand larceny thrown in to boot".
I'm going to save sarge's comment here, it might come in useful later on.
How freaky is it that the people so frightened of shadows (especially bin Laden's shadow) can blithely defend the people that destroyed an entire network of intelligence as if it meant nothing. The network tracking the very things - WMDs - that make them piss their beds in fear. Sure, they tell themselves she wasn't NOC, but that's obvious self-deception. I just don't get it.
Posted by iamcoyote at October 12, 2005 08:33 AMstill trying to save us from ourselves, cyber smuck?
Why don't you try out your tired inane drivel over at lgf or powerline? They might appreciate your crap opinions..in other words just go lay down asshole....
ANYTHING Bush does has one and only one goal: his own personal advantage and aggrandizement. Example: The tax cuts. It's nice that some others benefitted but his primary reason d' etre was to cut his OWN taxes. He is so completely self-absorbed that he in oblivious to the lives of other, elsser mortals.
I think we will eventually learn that Miers has one specific quality that prompted Bush to nominate her and tie himself to her wagon: her loyalty is so great that when the case finally comes before the SCOTUS she will vote to not turn him over to the Internation Criminal Court.
Posted by Lurch at October 12, 2005 08:54 AMIpsos is a lefty blog? who knew?
Posted by benjoya at October 12, 2005 09:09 AMThe Washington Post article about the eye blinking and such is number 1 on the most E-mailed list for the Post. I mailed it to my self, to help keep it there.
The press is developing some balls.
Posted by JWC at October 12, 2005 09:20 AMJWC, finally. Who'da thunk Lauer had any?
Posted by iamcoyote at October 12, 2005 09:22 AMBy all means save my comments, I don't have to save yours because they are all the same. BTW anyone want to respond to the DSM non-scandal? It started off with such promise in the MSM but quickly fizzled out. Why? Because the DSM said nothing new and actually reinforced the idea that the UK/US Governments were concerned about WMDs, cautious in their approach to war, and mostly unified in the idea that Saddam had to go. So instead of holding a smoking gun the LLL were left holding smoke. The Plame ‘scandal’ will most likely fall out the same way. Nobody has “committed premeditated first-degree murder on a massive scale, assault, conspiracy to commit same, with grand larceny thrown in to boot” or nothing remotely approaching that. If you think that Fitzgerald will show up at the White House with a warrant, then I will confidently predict you will be very disappointed and have once again fallen victim of your own echo chamber. After which I will predict much gnashing of teeth and whining from the LLL who will have been ‘Betrayed’ by another Rove conspiracy.
Posted by Cyber Sarge at October 12, 2005 10:04 AMCoyote, it's called blind faith, and/or partisan hackery--it makes life easier to view the world in Black and White (or Right and Left), and nuances are for sissies--also, some people are more impressed by image than substance, like the way a man fills out a flight suit, or talks tough to the terraists...
this manifests itself in many ways, but transferrence is one of the most common--deep down inside, these people know they are being fed lies, so in order to maintain cognitive balance, they tell themselves that things are just as bad, or worse on 'the other side.'
the extent of criminal behavior by the Bush Administration will only become clearer over time, until only the most partisan ideologues will still refuse to believe it, or try to conflate it with Clinton era scandals...
and i'm speaking as a lifelong independent, never registered for either party, but voting in all major elections, and as someone who has voted for both Republicans and Democrats. this goes beyond party loyalty--true Republicans should stand up and reclaim their party from the Bush kleptocracy.
cyber smuck..I hope you return to reality someday..your loser heros are going down this time and taking the rest of the criminal party with them...
Posted by headxray at October 12, 2005 10:38 AMDavid, I know you're right, it's just tough to fathom. They see no dissonance when they scream about not wanting their taxes to pay for poor, lazy people getting abortions, but not a peep when their taxes are being used to pay Halliburton to pretend to feed the troops they so lovingly support with stickers on their SUVs. How anyone can still think that Clinton lying about a blowjob is a greater crime than outing an agent and a vital network of intelligence gatherers is just wacky. I dunno, maybe they figure if they were ever lucky enough to receive a BJ, they would be shouting it from the hilltops, so they don't understand Bill covering it up.
Posted by iamcoyote at October 12, 2005 10:44 AMBush basically stated today that Miers religion was a big factor in why he selected her for the SCOTUS.
Does that amount to a religious test?
Does that mean that since Bush believes her religious beliefs will be important to her ability to fulfill her duties as a justice that she will be inclined to rule according to those beliefs as opposed to ruling according to the Constitution?
And does that open her religious beliefs as an influence on her judicial philosophy to being a legitimate avenue of questioning in her Senate hearings?
Posted by snark at October 12, 2005 11:00 AMHere's your chance to prove your manly-man-ness, Cyber Sarge!
Posted by pessimist at October 12, 2005 11:47 AM