Bravo! I've read a number of rejoinders to Cohen's flatulent ramblings today, but this is by far and a way the most pungent and biting. The only pioty is that it is so well crafted as to perhaps discourage others to add to the pile. But I will soldier ahead nonetheless.
Posted by Sebastian Dangerfield at October 13, 2005 03:24 PMNice job.
For my part, I emailed Mr. Cohen a link to an excellent bit of writing by reddhedd who explains the true ramifications of outing a CIA covert agent:
http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005_10_09_firedoglake_archive.html#112908992734723006
Check it out, ya'll.
I cannot believe that so many people opine that the outing of Valerie Plame and her NOC is not a big deal. How many years of intenisve spywork were compromised when Brewster-Jennings was exposed as a CIA cover company? How many agents' lives were endangered or perhaps killed? How many foreign operatives associated with those compromised agents were killed? How much intelligence on WMD will now go undiscovered because we lost those operatives? And for those who don't care about lives and security but measure everything in dollars, how many taxpayer dollars were blown in setting up this operation which is now useless? And all for some political payback? WTF? For all of the apologists who say 'Well, they didn't mean to compromise her cover,' I say to hell with you! How can you be such idiots?
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good work. i wrote him a nasty little note.
The outing of Plame was done, as Cohen surely knows, to punish Joe Wilson
and/or plame and brewster-jennings, who, like wilson, knew before the war that the yellowcake story was bullshit; in fact, it's possible that plame could punch holes in every aspect of the white house's WMD story; it was right up her alley, professionally.
if plame was the target instead of (or along with) wilson, maybe miller's role extended to setting up wilson, making sure that op-ed got published.
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what is with all this grief i'm getting? i'm just a poor canadian songwriter/poet!
Posted by leonard cohen at October 13, 2005 04:07 PMExcellent larre! I too will send my less than comprehensive but nonetheless pointed email this evening.
Posted by dorita at October 13, 2005 04:13 PMThank you for such a detailed, coherent, and beautifully written response.
i wrote earlier today to Cohen and the Ombudsman although my message was considerably shorter (and less eloquent).
Strange, but I had to read the column twice when I first encountered it. On initial reading, I wondered if it was a parody - however tasteless.
Posted by Psyche at October 13, 2005 04:16 PMto clarify my crackpot theory above: it wasn't to punish brewster-jennings, it was to disable them.
Posted by benjoya at October 13, 2005 04:17 PMOnly one problem with this.
Cohen's employers know what he is all about and they agree with him.
Letters received in response to this column will be regarded as a good thing, as evidence that his column is being read.
Posted by James E. Powell at October 13, 2005 04:38 PMThat is an excellent, nicely detailed letter. I usually just sent sarcastic notes and include the following people:
Fred Hiatt hiattf@washpost.com
Howard Kurtz kurtzh@washpost.com ombudsman@washpost.com
Man! that is a good letter. I sent a shorter but very pungent one to Mr. Cohen directly, I'm sorry I didnt' cc it to all the editors there but I think I'll just phone up tomorrow and complain. I think its worth complaining because I don't think his editors agree or disagree with this column, I think they would probabl prefer silence to any kind of attentiona nd Cohen's column draws attention to the entire affair even as he tries to throw water on it.
aimai
Posted by aimai at October 13, 2005 04:55 PMOutstanding comment
Posted by Joseph at October 13, 2005 05:00 PM**applause**
Well done, sir! Well done. - Jon Stewart voice
Posted by iamcoyote at October 13, 2005 05:11 PMCohen was merely chosen as the preemptive planter of the Conservative talking points to discredit Fitzgerald before his report comes out . Today I heard other conservative TV commentators like Eleanor Cliff say the same thing: Fitz is just in town making trouble and anyway, whatever the White House Iraq Group did it is merely Beltway business as usual. EVERYONE does this hardball stuff so if Fitzgerald does indeed indict anyone he is just a meany who must be a partisan Democrat too. That is going to be their spin. Anyone who is upset is just a wimp who is intimidated by how big league players like Rove operate. Remember: everyone does this so being indicted is ridiculous.
By the way, great letter. Thanks.
Mr. Cohen is on the payroll of this WH, just as is Judith Miller.
Posted by Judith at October 13, 2005 05:49 PMGreat letter. Cohen deserves every bit of scorn and derision he's getting. Thank you for eloquently expressing what a lot of us are thinking.
Posted by Marvin Toler at October 13, 2005 06:13 PMBest reply to Cohen's column I've seen today. Best by far. Here's my letter to the Post:
To the editors:
One word comes to mind reading Cohen's column On special prosecutor Fitzgerald. Impotence. Boo hoo, they don't return his calls. Reminds me of when a certain boorish type of guy assumes he's really impressed a girl at a party. He calls the next day. "Hi, Brandi? It's Richard." [silence] Brandi:"Uhm, who?" . She brushes boorish Richard off—something about having to rearrange her sock drawer. Richard is shocked. "How can this be? I'm a WAPO columnist for God's sake! Top of the pecking order." Richard can't handle the rejection, and exacts his revenge through the power of his mighty pen. But his angry pen has all the potency of a dishrag. Like a mouse furiously, hmmm, "romancing" an elephant, his target simply goes about the day unfazed.
To borrow from the cartoon South Park character Butters alter ego, the evil Dr. Chaos:
"I am Professor Cohen! And now this puny Special Prosecutor will bow down to me! Whatever I write, destruction will follow!"
Cohen is Butter's Professor Chaos. None shall bow.
http://www.butters-fan.blinkz.com/stories/view/87487.htm
Posted by at October 13, 2005 06:18 PMI read Cohen's column only because a number of blogs (Atrios, Daou Report) linked to it. I stopped reading him long ago - I think it was after he blamed his support of the war on the activities of those who were against the war (he had to spend so much time debunking them, dontcha know). Thanks for taking him on so eloquently. I'd love to have a gig like his where I could be paid big bucks to scratch my belly and publish my opinions without logic or facts to back them up.
Posted by TuiMel at October 13, 2005 06:55 PMWhile I agree with you, you make one of same mistakes that you correctly accuse Cohen of making:
The outing of Plame was done, as Cohen surely knows, to punish Joe Wilson for daring to write an op-ed article that broke through the near-monopoly of propaganda controlled by the White House Iraq Group (and given a large assist by the New York Times' Judith Miller).
In truth, that requires reading other people's minds and we do not know for a fact exactly why she was outed. In addition, even if it *was* done in response to Joe Wilson, you are very probably not correct that it was specifically in response to his op-ed, because there is evidence that they were shopping Ms. Plame's identity as early as June or even May.
Your anger is virtuous. A part of your mechanism is flawed.
Posted by Nash at October 13, 2005 07:18 PMLarre, your response to Mr. Cohen's piece was written with the highest degree of excellence. Congratulations and thank you.
Posted by Judith at October 13, 2005 07:44 PMI am not surprised that the Left-Coaster thinks Cohen is off base here.
What ALL LEFTIES seem to have forgotten about bringing suit or indictments upon another person is that A CRIME MUST HAVE BEEN COMMITTED. Valarie Plame was not a covert agant thus she was not outed by Rove or any other Administration official. No covert, no outed.
End of story.
Posted by Kevin at October 13, 2005 07:53 PMNo crime was commited? Sorry Kevin, but outing a vital national security asset for personal, financial or political gain is called treason. In a time of war that crime calls for the death penalty. Anybody who thinks what they did is not a crime is obviously in league with our enemies. Kevin, your a horrible American. In fact, if you're an American citizen at all, you're a traitor.
Posted by TheTruth at October 13, 2005 08:21 PMKeven,
What evidence do you have that she wasn't covert?
Posted by at October 13, 2005 08:23 PMkevin, check the year on those talking points.
Posted by benjoya at October 13, 2005 08:31 PMThat was awesome. His head must be spinning. He pry won't get to mine, here it is:
How far is acceptable to you for the Bush administration to trash our constitution?
How far is acceptable for the Bush administration to ruin ongoing intelligence operations in WMD?
How is a trip to Niger, one of the poorest countries in Africa, for an unpaid mission of a dedicated civil servant, a high-falutin perk in your eyes?
Are Joe McCarthy and Karl Rove our ideals for running the government, promoting this democracy, solving the problems of the nation through discourse and debate?
You give Bush and Rove way too much credit. You've been an insider way too long. Karl Rove's treason looks far different from here in the heartland than there among the nation's gossips. It's not just a topic of conversation -- it's the purposeful ruining of ongoing national security operations for political spite.
You fail your job in giving Rove a pass. You assault our democracy as viciously as Rove by telling Fitzgerald to call off the investigation.
How far did you support Ken Starr in his hunt for a missing blowjob? Did Judy Miller give you something none of us should know about? How far will you go to insult the intelligence of your readers?
SINCERELY.
Isn't Richard Cohen a personal friend of Judy Miller? Didn't they share a house at the shore for several summers?
Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
Your response to his column is great. I see her fingerprints on everything he wrote.
Posted by Ohio Blue at October 13, 2005 09:30 PMAll conventional thinking has Plame extracted from covert operations as well as the handling of covert assets over a period of 7 years beginning at about the time she met and began dating Joseph Wilson.
You will all remember that it has been widely publicized that Valerie Plame outed herself to Joe Wilson on their second date.
And didn’t Valerie look smashing on the cover of Vanity Fair? I loved the scarf and sunglasses!
All of this information is public record and has in fact been widely disseminated in the media. But you group-thinkers have decided that all the facts that do not support your conclusion that Karl Rove outed a covert CIA agent for political gain.
Don’t even get me started on the impossible conclusions that Joe Wilson made in the New York Times op/ed that started this whole brouhaha. In it Wilson commented on a document that he says had misspellings and other inaccuracies. This document however was not shown to him by the folks in Niger, Africa which was what he was supposed to be checking out. Furthermore, Wilson draws as proof that Saddam’s regime did not seek “Yellow Cake Nuclear Material” because his drinking buddies over at the U.S. embassy thought the story was inaccurate. As you might guess, a report on an investigation by the U.S. Embassy in Africa was never presented. Probably because one was never undertaken.
Are you getting the point I am driving at? You’re liberal handlers have successfully driven the world’s attention away from the HUGE inaccuracies of Joe Wilson’s claims by dangling the carrot of a White House scandal out there.
You guys are so gullible!
Bravo! Encore! Encore!
And to answer Nash's point about the following sentence:
The outing of Plame was done, as Cohen surely knows, to punish Joe Wilson for daring to write an op-ed article that broke through the near-monopoly of propaganda controlled by the White House Iraq Group (and given a large assist by the New York Times' Judith Miller).
A simple substitution can address that matter:
"The outing of Plame was done, as Cohen surely knows, to punish Joe Wilson for daring to expose the perfidity of the administration with stories that broke through the near-monopoly of propaganda controlled by the White House Iraq Group (and given a large assist by the New York Times' Judith Miller)."
Since Joe Wilson, like a number of other experts, was horrified that the WH would use propaganda to force an illegal war, he was duty bound to expose the lies and did so with increasingly pointed interviews starting BEFORE the war commenced. Here is an oped he wrote in October 22, 2002 about why the neocon approach was guaranteed to blow up in their faces.
Posted by Mary at October 13, 2005 09:51 PMIs that the death rattle I hear coming from the right?
Posted by Judith at October 13, 2005 09:52 PMah, the zionists keep outing themselves.
richard cohen is a companion of perle, wolfie, feith, abrams, et alia.
i wonder, does cohen also have an israeli passport, dual citizenship.
fitzgerald threatens the zionist gangsters who have taken control of the USA. principally by blackmail.
and fitz is clean. unlike bill and his alcoholism and gambling. unlike george w and his affection for bald boys, jerry jeff. unlike dick'em and his many financial crimes. the mossad has noted these derelictions, has the evidence. it turns them the israeli ways.
but fitzgerald may be clean. and it is driving the zionist gangsters crazy.
be careful patrick. be very careful. since you cannot be blackmailed, you may have to suffer a fatal accident.
the mossad has accepted the contract. the crosshairs, the bomb is looking for you.
it will be an orlando letelier-style of extinguishing. in broad daylight. much like dallas in 1963. a very public warning to all others to look the other way.
Posted by albertchampion at October 13, 2005 10:02 PMKevin,
You just keep telling yourself whatever you must to keep the kool-aid flowing.
Your hideous fucking ignorance and dry-humping of outdated, disproven talking points is high fucking comedy for the rest of us.
God. You're all such pathetic little bitches over there in Wingnuttia.
Posted by thunderhawk at October 13, 2005 10:07 PMthat's right, albert. keep your eye on the jews. i bet that feingold guy is involved. and barbra streisand, too.
Posted by dick cheney at October 14, 2005 05:22 AMthe jews made me do it!
Posted by dubya at October 14, 2005 05:23 AMKevin, Did you miss the part where Bush said he would fire anyone within the WH involved in leaking Plame's name? Even your leader knows there was a crime. Granted, it is doubtful that he will fire anyone involved in the leak, but at least he publicly acknowledged that it was wrong.
Posted by ann at October 14, 2005 05:32 AMKevin,
One can only hope that some of the WMD that Plame and her COVERT NETWORK were tracking find you and your family. You of all people deserve the horrific death that results.
Um... What's the big deal with the Vanity Fair story? Didn't it come out in 2004, six MONTHS after Plame was outed? I mean, really, what kind of nonsense is it to think that a covert agent who's been outed is doing anything wrong by appearing on a magazine AFTER she's been outed? You know, after the damage has been done?
Try again.
As for all these neo-cons who say, "Unh Unh! Was not a covert agent! Shows what you know!", I'd like to ask them when any of them got access to Valerie Plame's personnel file at the CIA, which will clear all this up. If you dimwits have it, post it.
Thought so. They can't, because they know that thing is locked down tighter than Ft. Knox. Until then, we have to take the CIA's word that she worked for them as an NOC, or had been one within the time frame that her protection was in effect when she was outed. And we have to wonder why the CIA would bother pushing for an investigation into who outed Plame if she weren't one. The CIA has plenty enough to do without asking for an investigation if they didn't have a damned good reason for it.
As for Joe Wilson learning his wife was CIA on the second date? Wow! I'm amazed so many people were witness to that date, and dutifully recorded the entire conversation! As if they would know what was said, exactly! Please, take the Weekly World News scuttlebutt somewhere else.
Posted by at October 14, 2005 07:41 AMYour Open Letter inspired me to write my own. Thanks.
RE: "Let This Leak Go", By Richard Cohen, Washington Post, October 13, 2005
"The best thing Patrick Fitzgerald could do for his country is get out of Washington, return to Chicago and prosecute some real criminals...Go home, Pat."
Memo to Richard Cohen from President Bush --
"I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious, of traitors."
President George H. W. Bush
on the 26th of April, 1999, at the dedication ceremony of the George Bush Center for Intelligence.
That, of course, was President George Herbert Walker Bush -- Bush 41, Bush the Elder, Bush the Smarter, Bush the Better (although it's hard to think of any President who isn't better than P43 -- at least Ulysses S. Grant could write).
But, of course, Mr. Cohen wants Patrick Fitzgerald to get out of Washington before he causes Bush the 43rd's Administration any more trouble than he already has.
He wants Judy and Scooter to be free to enjoy the aspens out West once again.
He wants the white-collar criminals, career incompetents, and treasonous punks in the White House to continue to be free to out their political enemies' wives as CIA agents and free to continue their preemptive assault on Iraq and on all but the rich in America.
And that's not a crime to him? That's trivial? Maybe to a cocktail party pundit, an inside-the-Beltway boy, a Bush-league suck-up. But not to me. And not to most of America, I'd wager.
"Patriotism may be the resort of a scoundrel, but yelling about leaks is a close second," flippantly says Richard Cohen, even though these "leaks" to the press could be found to be treason and could also have endangered the lives of other, unknown CIA operatives. No, to Mr. Cohen, that's just run-of-the-mill "collateral damage," business as usual in his Washington. Because Rove and Libby and the other, as-yet unnamed co-conspirators in the Bush Administration didn't actually intend to have Valerie Plame physically assassinated, but intended rather to "assassinate the character of her husband," Joseph C. Wilson, that means they're not "real criminals".
And therefore, the special counsel, Patrick Fitzgerald, should return to Chicago to search for "real criminals" and leave Washington to its hairdressers, its dog walkers, and its syndicated columnists. Oh, yes, and its politicians and their henchmen. "Good people" who happen to do "bad things" like start wars based on lies. And then, when called on their lies, try to assassinate the characters of the truthtellers who oppose them.
Mr. Cohen's use of the term "good people" in any connection to this Administration is debatable. George W. Bush may be nice to his dog, Barney, but couldn't you also say that he has done some very "bad things" to the world? His father famously had trouble with the "vision thing", but I think that P43 comes across more like a real-life, near-sighted Mr. Magoo. This Bush is fully capable of confusing the faces and indeed the countries of a fundamentalist religious terrorist and a brutal secular dictator. He invades the country of Saddam the Dictator, who did our country no harm (but did have a big pot of oil) rather than chasing after Osama the Terrorist, who did actual, grievous harm to our country, but then fled into mountains where there was no oil.
Bush the Elder had contempt and anger for those who would betray the trust of our covert intelligence agents like Valerie Plame and considered those betrayers "the most insidious of traitors." Bush the Lesser merely has contempt for the American people and continues to employ men like Rove and Libby and others of their invidious, insidious ilk to protect him from the tellers of the truth and to smear them with lies when necessary.
And "strong women" of the "free press" like Judith Miller (who was a journalistic handmaiden for the Neocon lies that led to the war on Iraq) and "weak men" like Richard Cohen (who makes excuses for people with more power than he) both have to stop going along and protecting those in positions of power from the unwanted truth -- that "good people" who do "bad things" deserve to be punished.
The bottom line is that lying politicians who commit criminal acts need to go to jail if justice is to prevail in this world.
And if Richard Cohen doesn't like that, perhaps he's the one who should go home, tail tucked neatly between his legs. Like the "bad Barney" he is.
Sincerely,
David Wyles
Playa Del Rey, CA
The only leak was Plame at 'Vanity Fair' explaining she was an CIA operations officer, paramilitarily trained. The assassinations of the Spanish operations officers by the 'Iraqi police,' the Madrid bombing, and coup happened shortly after that. Not like Wilson and Dad have a history there.
'Vanity Fair the Movie' was about female operations officers, but, unless this is some kind of group Plame was paying off, I doubt she targeted 'Vanity Fair' for that reason. No one seems to be worried about criminal conspiracy charges at 'Vanity Fair,' so I guess the media has gone fair game with anything Plame now.
Plame was'nt indicted and I guess the time line for that has expired and the media knows that, so we'll just watch the FBI agents beat a 64 year old school teacher in New Orleans-he's the one tearing his leg off as the other tears his head off. You have to wonder if these genious FBI agents were involved in the criminal conspiracy investigation of Plame.
Meanwhile, back at whats left of the leaders of the US government; Dick is getting squeezed and look at that Plame pay off:
Undercover CIA official picked to oversee human spywork
By Katherine Shrader, Associated Press | October 14, 2005
WASHINGTON -- A top CIA manager who remains undercover will soon oversee the traditional human spying activities for the entire intelligence community, a position created in the intelligence changes after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
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Sign up for: Globe Headlines e-mail | Breaking News Alerts Publicly, he is referred to as ''Jose," said US officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the plan's full details had yet to be released.
Jose's posting as head of the new National Clandestine Service ends weeks of debate over whether the CIA would retain its role as the primary agency responsible for traditional human spywork, as an increasing number of US national security agencies take on this type of work.
He will now broadly coordinate operations for the FBI, Defense Department, and other agencies involved in human intelligence, or the information gathered by people, rather than by technical means.
Jose now serves as the director of the CIA's clandestine service, which handles the agency's human intelligence gathering.
Forming a National Clandestine Service was one of more than 70 recommendations from President Bush's commission on weapons of mass destruction, which released a bruising report in March about the current capabilities of the 15 agencies that make up the US intelligence community.
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You have to wonder if they'll let the Al they have admitted works at CIA in charge of some spies and run some ops like Plame. Seems to be something to study and emulate in the future.
Actually Joe Wilson only concluded that Iraq wanted to meet with Nigerian officials to discuss trade. Niger has only ONE exportable resource (uranium ore) and Iraqi has only ONE (two counting oil contract for un officials) exportable resource (oil). The CIA saw this as confirmation of the UK story of Iraqi seeking nuke material. So instead of debunking the story Joe Wilson reinforced the story and probably added to the credibility. Joe Wilson admitted (to the 9/11 commission) that he lied in his book and the OpEd (sic) about debunking any memos because he had NEVER SEEN THEM. “outing a vital national security asset for personal, financial or political gain is called treason.” Um Truth, change your name to Bullshit. First off she was not a “national security asset” and it has yet to be proven that anybody gave her name “for personal, financial or political gain.” Not being as smart as iamcoyote I had to look up treason and it was obvious you didn’t: “1 : the betrayal of a trust; 2 : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family.” You can spin this story or view it through any prism you want but I doubt that Karl Rove or Scooter Libby could be remotely charged with treason. Nice try and thanks for playing our game.
Posted by Cyber Sarge at October 14, 2005 08:47 AMby nearlysomebody, posted at kos:
Karl didn't do anything wrong.
And even if he did, Valerie Plame wasn't a spy.
And even if she was, she wasn't undercover.
And even if she was, Wilson told everyone
And even if he didn't, everyone knew who she was anyway.
And even if they didn't, she had not done anything secret on the last 5 years.
And even if she did, outing her wasn't a crime
And even if it was, outing her did not ruin a 20 year CIA operation and their front company Brewster & Jennings
And even if it did, outing her did not endanger her and her family
And even if it did, outing her did not endanger other CIA agents who worked for her
And even if it did, they deserved it because her CIA group was out to get Bush
And even if they weren't, Wilson lied.
And even if he didn't, it was trap concocted by Wilson's buddy Clinton and his wife Hillary to get at Bush
And even if it wasn't, Wilson was a partisan Democrat.
And even if he wasn't, his report wasn't important to anyone outside the Wilson household.
And even if it was, it was full of mistakes and grammar errors.
And even if it wasn't, everyone leaks intel like that in Congress.
And even if they don't, David Corn outed her first
And even if he didn't Novak never said her name
And even if he did he was never warned by the CIA not to do it
And even if he was Rove never said her name
And even if he did there is no proof
And even if there's proof, Rove only was only trying to prevent a mistake
And even if there was no mistake to prevent, Rove heard it from another reporter
And even if he didn't, he didn't know it was his job to prevent the leak
And even if he did, it's not like he signed a document saying he would never do it
And even if he did, it's not like Rove's boss promised to fire anyone involved
And even if he did, it's not like Bush signed a document saying he had to take corrective action
And even if he did, there is no proof someone from the WH blabbed
And even if there is proof, Judy Miller is not going to talk
And even if Judy talks, she was never working on a story about Wilson
And even if she was, there are no notes and the NYT denies it
And even if there are notes, Rove never mentioned any of this to anyone in the WH
And even if he did, no one will ever find the
e-mail
And even if they find it, Rove had just forgotten about it
And even if he didn't forget, he lied to Bush and GW is innocent
And even if he isn't Democrats and Clinton are 'out to get Rove and Bush with lies and innuendo
And even if they are telling the truth...
Hey look over there: See Miers ? Letter from Al Qaeda ? Avian Flu ? Subway terror Alert ?
Valerie who ? This is old news...
cyber smuck as usual you use upinions and pass them off as facts..it's time to go lay down again...
Posted by headxray at October 14, 2005 09:47 AMI agree that Cohen's commentary is uninformed blather. But - until the Grand Jury comes down with the indictments (I cannot fathom there would be NONE) - even informed blather is still blather.
And WHEN the indictments come, all of the blather beforehand will be bird cage liner, as it were.
All right now is speculation and people of both sides feeding off each other - Cohen in his circles and us in ours. And all of it out together amounts to not even a decent tempest in our teacup.
The thing that we (and I do include myself) as bloggers/commentators don't understand is that all the talk we imbibe in HAS NO INFLUENCE ON COURT PROCEEDINGS. Things there will proceed in their proper place and time and direction. And all our comments are not part of the reality.
Cohen's opinions mean nothing, but neither do ours ON THIS SUBJECT. This being legal, the courts are the only thing that matter. We do not, nor especially our words.
(I am thoroughly enjoying the tempest myself. . . LOL. . . but I thought it appropriate to put our tempest into perspective. I WANT hundreds of indictments, but my wants are not part of the equation.)
Posted by SteveGinIL at October 14, 2005 04:13 PMFitzgerald should get out of Washington? He ain't in Washington. That's what drives them frothy barking mad. Can't touch this. Rock on, Mr. Prosecutor.
Posted by farmergiles at October 14, 2005 05:48 PM