Comments: Happy Economic News

Boycott Dominos Pizza and call their corporate headquarters at 800-468-4726 and make the demand that George W Bush withdraw the nomination of Samuel Alito and nominate a moderate to the Supreme Court or that you will boycott Dominos pizza. Dominos pizza CEO David Brandon supports the antiabortion movement. Pass the word.

It appears time for an economic revolt against the companies that fund George W Bush and the Republican Party. Go call and email these companies and tell them you have had enough of the actions of the Republican Party and you will not take it anymore.

http://www.hoflink.com/~dbaer/petitions.htm

Posted by buckfush at November 1, 2005 02:31 AM

Funny how this thread didn't mention the unemployment rate. During the Clinton years that was THE barometer for determining how the economy was doing.

Well, it's at 4.9% - 5.0%. Which is lower than it was the ENTIRE 8 years of Clinton. So by the standards liberals were using just 6 years ago, Bush economy is BOOMING.

Truth has a way of interjecting itself into wishful thinking.

Posted by The Real Truth at November 1, 2005 03:51 AM

TheRealLies, what is it about Republicans and lying. You guys dont' even do it well anymore. Just go take a look at the following
Department of Labor website giving national labor statistics for the last 60 years. You'll notice that in the years 1997 to 2001, the civilian unemployment rate was under 5%. So much for your "truth." Did you used to write for Pravda too?

BTW, the REAL TRUTH you don't want to discuss is the labor participation rate, which has fallen steadily under Dubya as workers are pushed out of the recorded labor force. Of course, creeps like the Republican Party want an underclass they can lord it over.


Go hide back under your bridge. You're smelling up the place

Posted by PrahaPartizan at November 1, 2005 04:16 AM

Sorry, much to your dismay, I will not go away. Someone needs to interject the truth into your fantasy world even if you choose not to listen to it.

Posted by The Real Truth at November 1, 2005 05:06 AM

the gorilla in the room is the trade deficit. foreigners finance our war and our excursion into iraq. that spigot cannot remain open forever and when they find other places to park their funds the result will be ugly. stocks will crater and interest will soar if the adjustment is rqpid rather than gradual.jjj

Posted by jjj at November 1, 2005 05:32 AM

The unemployment rate is determined by who is filling for unemeployment benefits. When benefit periods end and those people still have not found new jobs, they are no longer counted as unemployed. So, not suprising to see the rate staying about the same.

Posted by ann at November 1, 2005 05:39 AM

Truth, You forgot to mention that they don't count unemployement the same way under Bush. If you leave off a few million then of course the rate is lower but you don't want to tell the whole truth.

Posted by goose1 at November 1, 2005 05:54 AM

Let's just see how much moolah the average Joe and Jane spend on Christmas and then we can talk about how great the economy is. "TheRealTruth", hahahaha, I can tell you're Republican just by your name: pompous and untruthful.

Posted by Sharon at November 1, 2005 06:00 AM

Ask any random hundred people whether times were better under Clinton or Bush, and I'll bet Clinton wins by a landslide.

Posted by dj moonbat at November 1, 2005 06:02 AM

....Clinton wins by a landslide.

Ahhh!

Those were the days.

Posted by snark at November 1, 2005 06:09 AM

"Truth has a way of interjecting itself into wishful thinking."

Truth has a way of interjecting itself into lying.

Posted by Judith at November 1, 2005 06:43 AM

To the trolls, go ahead, follow your leader's arrogance and lies into the abyss! Has he ever told the truth?

I will do everything in my power to make sure bu$h is tried for treason!

bu$hco has created this frightening cross in America between, Margaret Atwood's, "Handmaid's Tale" and the movie "Gattaca"!!

Posted by bbtb at November 1, 2005 06:54 AM

The Real Truth, don’t try to convert them they are too far gone. Only a full fledged Koolaid can look at sustained economic growth and see it as a bad thing. I also love the many nuances about the unemployment rate, never heard those arguments when Bill Jeff was in the White House.

Posted by Cyber Sarge at November 1, 2005 06:55 AM

of course cyber smuck, who has never met a republican lie he doesn't like, has to put in a crap opinion..if we're so full of kool aid why do you hang out here, asshole?

Posted by headxray at November 1, 2005 07:33 AM

Someone needs to interject the truth into your fantasy world

Sez who, I wonder? Who are you to:

1) decide what the truth is,
2) take it upon yourself to disseminate that "truth"
3) foist it upon people you've decided are ignorant of the "real truth"

Sounds to me like someone's got a rich fantasy life, and that someone is TRT. If you want to be a daddy, get a dog. (oops, I see you've got one already, called "sarge") If you want to participate with the big kids, perhaps you should get a clue. But by all means, don't go away, you're our comic relief! It helps us to be shown how truly ignorant the bushlickers are.

Posted by iamcoyote at November 1, 2005 07:57 AM

It helps us to be shown how truly ignorant the bushlickers are.

Ignorant? Nay. Deceitful, deluded, myopic, and anything else you care to throw at them where it means their vision is clouded.

Trolls that can type more than 20 characters and have reasonably good spelling aren't ignorant - but they're all about the planks and logs in their eyes.

Posted by idiosynchronic at November 1, 2005 08:05 AM

I suppose you're right, idio, which makes them all the more comical. The need to lie and misrepresent shows that they don't have enough faith in their argument to present the facts honestly. Daddy does it to them, why shouldn't they do it others?

Posted by iamcoyote at November 1, 2005 08:22 AM

the real truth is right: 4 is a larger number than 5

Posted by at November 1, 2005 08:47 AM

If Cyberdork and Truth had any guts, they would go over to DeLong's or Kash's blog and argue economics w/the people on those boards. Meanwhile, I would be willing to bet that if you asked 100 random people are they better off now, or when Clinton was pres, you would have 65+ say they were doing better before Shrub came along.

Posted by weinerdog43 at November 1, 2005 08:51 AM

I don't know about you folks, but I'm kind of hankerin' for a Dominos pizza. Anybody got an online coupon link? I think it'd go well with the opening NBA night. Agreed?

Who says that energy is not inflationary?

Smart people. Like Ben Bernanke, for example.

Why, that would be Mr Greenspan who will beat down inflation until it is dead.

Yes, he might do what he did in 1999-2000, when he kept hiking rates and popped that bubble, aka the Clinton Economic Miracle.

Professor DeLong mixes a little truth with folk tales, as most with a political bent do. He says

It's a good thing that inflation is contained to the food and energy sectors, and not seeping into the larger economy.

Well, core rate is up 2% year over year. So something is causing core rate inflation. Maybe some of that 2% is energy costs being passed on to consumers.

His free-market comments on oil refineries? Uh, what about regulations and environmental restrictions that make building refineries a less than free market experience?

He poles fun of Amazon, saying that Amazon.com and other online retailers were supposed to crush bricks-and-mortar retailers was that their hyper-efficient, asset-light operations would run at significantly higher operating margins.

That was the common thought in 1999-2000. What he doesn't mention, is that brick-and-mortor retailers have responded by turning their book stores into coffee shops (high margin $$$), internet hot spots, and offering DVD and music sales. Now that's the free market.

I agree with his comments on Prius Envy. Although, I must say that his arguments about how long it takes to break even on the cost of the car vs cost of fuel is the wrong approach. I don't think replacing a 1yr old car just for the sake of saving fuel is a good idea.

Folks have to replace their cars over time, and I'd recommend that when it is time to make that purchase, make it a hybrid (or whatever whiz bang technology comes along in the future).

In the meantime, folks with the less fuel efficient cars should utilize mass transit and use their cars less. That'd conserve, too...

Posted by muckdog at November 1, 2005 09:36 AM

Who says that energy is not inflationary?

Smart people. Like Ben Bernanke, for example.

Well, core rate is up 2% year over year. So something is causing core rate inflation. Maybe some of that 2% is energy costs being passed on to consumers.

So, muck, even though your new hero Bernanke says that energy costs aren't inflationary, you're saying they are.

Posted by ann at November 1, 2005 09:40 AM

His free-market comments on oil refineries? Uh, what about regulations and environmental restrictions that make building refineries a less than free market experience?

How about government subsidies that more than make up for the expense of keeping our environment safe and clean? Bush's Energy Bill, you know the one, all that corporate welfare for the gas and oil tycoons. And since the oil companies have seen such a huge profit over the last quarter, they'll be running to reinvest in their infrastructure and build more refineries because businesses always reivest their profits in the infrastructure, especially when a tax subsidy helps their profits even more, right?

Posted by ann at November 1, 2005 09:44 AM

but I'm kind of hankerin' for a Dominos pizza.

Go for it, big guy. Your choice tells us more about your lack of taste than your partisanship; although it does give insight into the right's penchant for cutting off their tongues to spite their mouths...or something like that.

Posted by iamcoyote at November 1, 2005 09:54 AM

Seriously. Dominos pie is utterly wretched.

Posted by dj moonbat at November 1, 2005 10:05 AM

Eating Dominos when you have a hankering for pizza is like going to McDonalds for ribs.

Posted by snark at November 1, 2005 10:20 AM

So, muck, even though your new hero Bernanke says that energy costs aren't inflationary, you're saying they are.

I said the core rate is up 2%, and some of that includes energy costs being passed on to consumers. Not that much.

Tax hikes aren't inflationary. Higher energy prices are like tax hikes on consumers.

Posted by muckdog at November 1, 2005 10:39 AM

I haven't had Dominos in at least 15 years. But the bucker up there made me think about it.

For those of you in the Sacramento area, try a place up in Folsom called Chicago Fire.

Get the deep dish.

Whoa, Nellie.

Posted by muckdog at November 1, 2005 10:41 AM

muck fuck you make no more sense than the other resident trolls..don't you hear powerline and lgf's calling you for your pathetic bullshit? go on over where you're welcome and quit wasting space here..just another fascist asswipe aren't you?

Posted by headxray at November 1, 2005 12:11 PM

When I lived in Grand Rapids, the Faro's pizza was great and we had it whenever my sister and her sons visited. Since I've moved, she always gripes that I don't know where to find good pizza. Anyone know good pizza in Lansing MI?

Posted by Sharon at November 1, 2005 02:49 PM

I've boycotted Dominos Pizza 15 years ago as a matter of taste.

Posted by L. I. Beralhawk at November 1, 2005 08:05 PM

I've boycotted Dominos Pizza 15 years ago as a matter of taste

Me too.

Posted by pizzaman at November 2, 2005 01:06 PM

Nothing will change - I doubt Bernanke will tackle the largest issues - SPENDING and our deficit... which was looking pretty good until the company got their grubby hands on it.

Tax breaks should go to the middle class - who can use it. The upcoming holiday season will be very interesting indeed and will be a great indicator of the actual state of the economy. Fourth quarter rally? Only for the deceived.

Pay-go? We will not be seeing it anytime soon.

My only hope is that Bush did take the easy way out and isn't entirely sure how Bennie will use his tools (also trusting that somebody with his new found power will use it for something besides propping up the market and creating bubble after bubble).

Good riddance to greenspan's Greed-o-nomics He should have been swept under the rug LONG ago... I will miss trying to decypher his manipulation & lies though.

Posted by dishwashing engineer at November 2, 2005 06:14 PM
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