Cyber Sarge,
To make it a bit more clear to you:
--Good American vote for economic policy that created 23 million new jobs (read Dem economic policy). Our enemies/traitors enable and cheer policies that create no new jobs (read YOUR economic policy)
--Good Americans vote for fiscal policy that eliminated the federal budget deficit and created surpluses in the hundreds of billions and projected in the trillions (read Dem fiscal policy). Our enemies/traitors enable and cheer policies that have us in record deficits and facing economic and fiscal collapse (read YOUR fiscal policy)
--Good Americans favor environmental policy that will protect our environment (read Dem environmental policy). Our enemies/traitors like policies that destroy our enviroment (read YOUR environmental policy)
--Good Americans favor foreign policy that keeps us safe and has the world feeling good about the USA (read Dem foreign policy).. Our enemies/traitors like policies that has the whole world hating our guts (read YOUR foreign policy
--Good Americans only send our troops off to die to fight threats. Our enemies/traitors would support sending them off to die based on lies and for Halliburton profit.
--Good Americans favor increased educational funding so America can be strong. Our enemies/traitors would like to see us devote less resourse to education.
--Good Americans favor regulatory policy that would prevent Enron et all from raping American citizens. Our enemies/traitors are for deregulation so this kind of thing can happen and Enron can make a lot of money.
I could go on all day. On every issue, on every point of leadership the policies you support turn out bad for America. What conclusion can one come to other than you are a traitor to the United States, a shitty human being, and a real a$$hole?
Posted by The Truth at November 8, 2005 08:08 AMOh, I forgot an important one...
Good Americans think outing a vital spy network that was charged with keeping our enemies from getting nukes in order to try and smear a guy who was telling the truth about a fraudulent case for war is treason.
Traitors think it's not a bit deal... Cyber Sarge, what do you think about the outing of Valerie Plame and her network?
Posted by The Truth at November 8, 2005 08:14 AMThe GOP Treason Machine never rests.
Unfortunately for them, neither do I.
Posted by God Of War at November 8, 2005 08:25 AMAnd no depth to which these dirty, scum-sucking, bottom-feeding Repiglicans will sink to lie, cheat, and dishonor America and her patriots.
Posted by fafnir at November 8, 2005 08:31 AMfafnir, that wasn't funny at all.
Posted by benjoya at November 8, 2005 09:00 AMIt should also be pointed out that Vallely supposedly sat on this crucial piece of information until Pat Fitzgerald all but wrapped up his investiagtion. Which pretty much suggests that this is a made up bullshit hit on Joe Wilson.
If he had this information before this week, why didn't he go and present it to the Grand Jury, under oath?!?
And, don't you find it interesting that rather than demanding that Pat Fitzgeral ivestigate this, Valelly is asking for Wilson to aplogize for correctly accusing him f slander?
Do some more digging on Vallely. This will be exhibit A in the coming Swift Boat smear of Joe Wilson.
Posted by Hesiod at November 8, 2005 09:03 AMSo where is the suit?
Posted by peter at November 8, 2005 09:08 AMSo where is the suit?
Posted by peter at November 8, 2005 09:08 AM
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Did you click the link, Dick? There's a cease and desist letter, you ignorant slug.
God, you fucking traitors are a banal lot.
Posted by God Of War at November 8, 2005 09:19 AMNothing has been taken down, just read the WDN article. So wheres the action?
Posted by peter at November 8, 2005 09:28 AMHesiod, as you know, facts don't matter, it's the impression the smear gives to the public. Of course this shithead didn't go to Fitzie, the SC would have charged him with perjury as well. Wilson doesn't matter to Fitzgerald's case, anyhow; the smears are for public consumption to cloud the real issues.
As for demanding apologies, bagman tried to do the same crap on a smaller scale in a thread last night. Some troll comes in and makes an outlandish statement, then bagman paints the entire left blogosphere with the garbage, then demands an apology from all lefties for one troll's statement. It's a classic Rovian move, you see it everywhere. Funny how it never applies to Dan Coulter and their side, though.
Posted by iamcoyote at November 8, 2005 09:31 AMNothing has been taken down, just read the WDN article. So wheres the action?
Talk about incompetent spin. Wilson is a public figure and he would have to prove a "reckless disregard for the truth" in Court.
That's a nearly impossible standard, given that this is Vallely's word against his.
But, it's clear that Vallely is lying. Otherwise he'd had told this to Pat Fitzgerald or Fox News or Word Nut Daily a year ago.
The fact that he only came up with this bullshit AFTER Libby was indicted proves it's an orchestrated smear campaign.
Vallely has clear ties to the PNAC wackos, not coincidentally.
Posted by at November 8, 2005 09:32 AMI believe I have said more than once in the past week that the truth would eventually catch up to Joe Wilson. I jus didn't realize it would happen so quickly.
This man is a liar and a fraud and if you really want to win next year, you will stop promoting him and drop him lack a bad habit.
This is in the process of blowing up in your face.
I've tried to warn you.
Posted by The Real Truth at November 8, 2005 09:37 AMHesiod, as you know, facts don't matter, it's the impression the smear gives to the public. Of course this shithead didn't go to Fitzie, the SC would have charged him with perjury as well. Wilson doesn't matter to Fitzgerald's case, anyhow; the smears are for public consumption to cloud the real issues.
Exactly my point in alerting people to this scumbag Roveian attack.
This is the exact same pattern the Swift Boat Liars followed. A Bunch of published reports on World Nut Daily. And I said the same things then I am saying now. I warned people about it, and very few took me seriiously until it was too late.
We need to shove a hot pocker up Vallely's ass, now. Dig up dirt on this lying sack of shit, now. Discredit him, now. Not after he's being interviewd on every talkshow in America and has a book out about it.
If Valely wants to sue me for saying he's a lying sack of shit, bring it on motherfucker. Pat Fitzgerald might want to have a word with this piece of shit too, incidentally.
I won't hold me breath waiting for that "cease and desist" letter from Gen. Valelly's attorney. He's probably got enough shit to worry about right now.
Posted by Hesiod at November 8, 2005 09:37 AMI believe I have said more than once in the past week that the truth would eventually catch up to Joe Wilson. I jus didn't realize it would happen so quickly. This man is a liar and a fraud and if you really want to win next year, you will stop promoting him and drop him lack a bad habit. This is in the process of blowing up in your face. I've tried to warn you.
A) Even if he was as big a liar as Dick Cheney, it would make zero amount of difference to his correct claim that there were no attemts by saddam to prchase Uranium from Africa.
B) Libby still committed perjury.
Your spin sucks, rightwing wacko.
Posted by at November 8, 2005 09:39 AMBTW, TR...
Obviously the lying sack of shit wingnuts are scared shitless that we are on to their little scam. How else would you expain the sudden troll infestation?
Vallely better hire a damn good attorney, wingnuts.
Posted by at November 8, 2005 09:41 AMOh, and Vallely better pray to almighty God that he enever even so much as jaywalked. Otherwise, we are going to tear him a new asshole.
Posted by Hesiod at November 8, 2005 09:42 AMI believe I have said more than once in the past week that the truth would eventually catch up to Joe Wilson. I jus didn't realize it would happen so quickly.
This man is a liar and a fraud and if you really want to win next year, you will stop promoting him and drop him lack a bad habit.
This is in the process of blowing up in your face.
I've tried to warn you.
Posted by The Real Truth at November 8, 2005 09:37 AM
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God you're a pathetic little cretin. What "truth?" An unsubstantiated claim by a wingnut fuck?
You traitorous little leech. You're nothing more than a bloated tick sucking blood out of Rove's ass and regurgitating the poisonous slime. You're a waste of carbon.
Yet another shoulda-been abortion.
Posted by God Of War at November 8, 2005 09:49 AMHesiod's right, this guy needs to be outed as a swiftie operative, but how? Especially when all the wingnuts on tv will fete him as peter and the big liar here.
It is pretty amusing that petey thinks since there's no lawsuit against the swiftie, what petey says must be true; just as the real liar believes because someone smears Wilson, what he's been insanely babbling about for weeks, even after Wilson was NOT indicted, is the truth. If that's all it takes, then I say "Bush abuses boys in the white house basement" and when someone else agrees, Bush is a pedophile, right? Why didn't we think of it before?
Oh yeah, because Republicans don't need facts to proclaim "truth" like we do.
Posted by iamcoyote at November 8, 2005 09:53 AMTruth? I tried to find that in my Webster's-Cheney government approved, intelligently designed dictionary and it doesn't appear. What's this "truth" you speak of ????
Posted by steve duncan at November 8, 2005 09:58 AMTo retaliate, we need to build up an online databse of Vallely's lies, contradictions, OPNAC ties, and other bits of dirty laundry.
Next, we make sure that everything he appears at a town hall meeting, a movie, a restaurant, or TV show, Newspaper, etc. his SHIT follows him there.
We need to have an asskicking countervailing commentary exposing his bullshit every time he shows his lying face somewhere.
Posted by Hesiod at November 8, 2005 10:00 AMOh, by the way, Bush still hasn't sued either JH Hatfield or Kitty Kelley for accusing him of being a coke-head who snorted lines off the furniture at Camp David.
So it must be true, right!/wingnut logic
Posted by Hesiod at November 8, 2005 10:03 AMOf course you're right, Hesiod. Counterspin away!
Posted by iamcoyote at November 8, 2005 10:15 AMSo, here's Faux's biography of Vallely:
From 1982-1986, he commanded the 351st Civil Affairs Command that included all Special Forces, Psychological Warfare and Civil Military units in the Western United States and Hawaii. He was the first president of the National Psychological Operations Association. His units participated in worldwide missions in Europe, Africa, Central America, Japan, Solomon Islands, Guam, Belgium, Korea and Thailand. He has served as a consultant to the commanding general of the Special Operations Command as well as the DOD Anti-Drug and Counter-Terrorist Task Forces. He also designed and developed the Host-Nation Support Program in the Pacific for DOD and the State Department. Most recently, he has in-country security assistance - experience in El Salvador, Columbia and Indonesia in the development of civil-military relations interfacing with senior level military and civilian leadership.
Psyops, eh? What a surprise!
Posted by iamcoyote at November 8, 2005 10:24 AMgee how come faux news failed to report that the general was a propagandist liar too?
Posted by headxray at November 8, 2005 10:27 AMthe truth would eventually catch up to Joe Wilson.
see, fafnir, now that's parody. one would hope.
Posted by benjoya at November 8, 2005 10:27 AMActually, if Vallely has evidence, he absolutely should be in front of the Grand Jury. Has anyone emailed Fitzgerald?
Posted by iamcoyote at November 8, 2005 10:35 AMactually, digby digs up a little on vallely here:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2005_11_06_digbysblog_archive.html#113147542831962924
The real truth, on the other hand, just keeps digging....
Posted by howard at November 8, 2005 11:47 AMIf this counter-action is handled in a timely fashion, swiftboating will be a dirty vulgar thing.
Calling someone a swiftboater would be an invatation for a good ol asskicking with broken bottles.
I actually think it is heading that way, and a little judicious use bey certein key players could well cement its use in that fashion.
The current situation is ripe to exploit for this purpose.
Shorter me- hang it around their necks as a typical rovian smear. It all kind of melts into one big pot of lies, death, phsycosis, and a complete lack of the concept of honor.
Rove and swiftboat, swiftboat and Rove.
Easy
Posted by SnarkyShark at November 8, 2005 12:15 PMSo, Vallely is in league with Satanists, eh? Interesting. Digby's on fire with this one.
Posted by iamcoyote at November 8, 2005 12:30 PMThe Raw Story has a copy of the cease and desist demand letter to Fox "News" from Joseph Wilson's attorney, Christopher Wolff.
Posted by Erroll at November 8, 2005 12:35 PMRove will swiftboat anyone and everyone at this point. He figures with ratings this low he has nothing to lose!
Oh...except his freedom!!
Posted by bushblowsturdblossom at November 8, 2005 12:54 PMRove will swiftboat anyone and everyone at this point.
See how easily that flows off the tounge?
Rove and swiftboat, swiftboat and Rove!
Fun to play for kids of all ages!
Posted by SnarkyShark at November 8, 2005 01:02 PMAll of these Republicans covering up the treason of outing of an undercover CIA operative who was working to keep WMD out of the hands of America’s enemies placing her and her contacts and all those who worked at her CIA front company and their contacts in danger. And making contacts in foreign countries less willing to endanger themselves by talking to American agents (as a direct result of the Plame case according to intelligence operatives testifying before Congress recently). I’m surprised that some pissed off intelligence agents don’t just decide to eliminate the traitors themselves. Not that I’m advocating that, but I’m just surprised that at least one or two intel operatives hasn’t done this. I guess they must be very disciplined or certain that eventually they will exact their revenge against the traitors.
Posted by Joe at November 8, 2005 03:12 PM"it would make zero amount of difference to his correct claim that there were no attemts by saddam to prchase Uranium from Africa."
You might want to educate yourself and review the 911 Report which verifies that Saddam had inquired about purchasing Uranium in Africa.
Just saying something isn't true doesn't make it so.
Why do we keep referring to these people with their inflated titles? Why do we bother to call them "Major General" so and so. They are puffed up creations, so lets not dignify them or their comments with their titles. Bush calls Putin "Vladimir".. so why can't we call this "major general".. Paul?
Posted by Mike Strickland at November 8, 2005 07:28 PMBush looked deeply in to Putin's eys and saw his soul. Putin looked in Bush's ear, and saw daylight on the other side. (Durst)
Posted by Don Phelps at November 8, 2005 08:31 PM"it would make zero amount of difference to his correct claim that there were no attemts by saddam to prchase Uranium from Africa."
You might want to educate yourself and review the 911 Report which verifies that Saddam had inquired about purchasing Uranium in Africa.
Just saying something isn't true doesn't make it so.
Posted by The Real Truth at November 8, 2005 05:49 PM
I believe the commenters intent was to focus on the alleged Hussein attempted purchase from Nigeria that Wilson went to investigate. Even a shithead like you could follow that bouncing ball.
Posted by at November 8, 2005 09:03 PMLast post was me.
Posted by sf at November 8, 2005 09:55 PMLearn to spell, Real Truth, for godsakes.
Posted by sf at November 8, 2005 09:58 PMI wonder how much of Libby's defense fund is being channeled over to Vallely?!?
Posted by romdinstler at November 9, 2005 06:16 AMCould it be he's a tool?
The Republicans believe in recycling their sleazeballs, you gotta give them that.
Posted by JC at November 9, 2005 08:25 AM