What the Raw Story article doesn't say is who came to Fitzgerald on November 3 to reveal the Hadley-Woodward June 2003 conversation. Was it Hadley himself? Or a third person (and, if so, who?). This just gets more and more interesting.
Posted by DaveGFromNYC at November 16, 2005 02:24 PMThe rabbit hole is getting to deep. Why o why didnt I take the blue pill. Get out of my head Morphieous.
Dude, I need a scorecard.
Posted by SnarkyShark at November 16, 2005 02:31 PMEVERYONE in this criminal administration is fighting to be acknowledged as the FIRST to compromise national security intelligence assets to the press!
"It was me!" "No, it was me!"
Let's start building the gallows for these curs.
(apologies to innocent canines)
Posted by euzoius at November 16, 2005 02:37 PMsnarky,
I'm afraid that all of us Leftcoaster regulars took the red pill a long time ago, but if Alice ever does get back to Kansas it might not be a red state anymore.
How's that for a mixed metaphor?
Posted by rlp at November 16, 2005 03:00 PMI've already got first dibs on the copyright for the board game, "Plame-o-Rama." I expect it will replace Clue as the mystery game for coming generations.
Mr Libby did it in the Green room with the Fax machine.....
The taint of corruption permeates the White House and the Bush Regime.
Did Hadley testify to the grand jury?
If he did, than he's in big trouble if he didn't say he talked to Woodward.
Seeing a way out of the White House neocon cabal before the who lot of them are taken to Texas and shot, Stephen Hadley put his hand in the air today and said, 'I'm a whimp, get me out of here' after Bob Woodwood, he of Watergate fame suddenly remember that he had been told about Plame two years ago.
Posted by Shaggydabbydo at November 16, 2005 04:17 PMThis is so-o-o-o sweet!
To watch the entire Fourth Reich slowly unravel before our eyes, day by day, week by week, month by month (yes, it may take that long)!
It's so reminiscent of Watergate, but is much bigger, because in this case it means literally the salvation of the country, not just the derailing of a political despot.
Where are all of the Bushlicking freeper fucks?
Sarge? West? Bendito?
No comment?
Posted by God Of War at November 16, 2005 05:54 PMI just heard the female anchor on ABC tell a lie - she said that the prosecutor had previously stated that Libby was the first person to reveal Valerie's name - and that threw his case out.
Fitzgerald did not say Libby was the first one - he said Libby was the first KNOWN one.
Keith Olbermann got it right on his program - Nuts to ABC.
Posted by DOT at November 16, 2005 06:00 PM(Unspecific overgeneralization of my opponents without offering anything of value)
Posted by Bendittohead at November 16, 2005 06:35 PMJ.west doesn't post here anymore. He made a bet that if anyone from the administration was indicted, he would stop posting. The other guy (forgot his moniker) would leave if Wilson or Plame got indicted.
I've got to hand it to him; he followed through on his bet. TLC is much quieter these days without his trolling.
Posted by DukeRevolution at November 16, 2005 06:41 PMAnd Bagley, did Steve lower the boom?
Is Hadley taking the rap to cover for Rove and Cheney? ALL the WHIG's knew about Plame.
What is up with the "simpleton" talking classified issues with Woodward? bu$h is indeed an idiot!
Posted by bbtb at November 16, 2005 07:10 PMHadley is of course covering for Libby, who in turn is covering for Cheney, who in collusion with Rove, and with the explicit understanding of Perle and possibly Bolton, or.... .....and this of course meant twice with the secretary. And this leads to the real Plamegate mastermind, who you probably would never had guessed is.. ACCKKK!...ACKKKKKK!!, ACCKKKKKKK!!!, die..not..now........n...asdfewwe....ick [thump].
We interrupt this silly person and now return you to your regularly scheduled posts.
You guys are too funny, and clever, I might add.
Posted by Judith at November 16, 2005 08:21 PMWhat is up with the "simpleton" talking classified issues with Woodward? bu$h is indeed an idiot!
Posted by bbtb at November 16, 2005 07:10 PM
Hey, talking classified information with reporters is no big deal now, ok? Divulging CIA operatives and performing treasonous acts is now the accepted norm. Get with the program.
Woodward Apologizes to Post For Silence on Role in Leak Case
By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, November 16, 2005; 11:54 PM
via www.Huffingtonpost.com
Bob Woodward apologized to The Washington Post yesterday for failing to reveal for more than two years that a senior Bush administration official had told him about CIA operative Valerie Plame, even as an investigation of who disclosed her identity mushroomed into a national scandal.
Woodward, an assistant managing editor and best-selling author, said he told Executive Editor Leonard Downie Jr. that he held back the information because he was worried about being subpoenaed by Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the special counsel leading the investigation.
"I apologized because I should have told him about this much sooner," Woodward, who testified in the CIA leak investigation Monday, said in an interview. "I explained in detail that I was trying to protect my sources. That's job number one in a case like this. . . .
"I hunkered down. I'm in the habit of keeping secrets. I didn't want anything out there that was going to get me subpoenaed."
Downie, who was informed by Woodward late last month, said his most famous employee had "made a mistake." Despite Woodward's concerns about his confidential sources, Downie said, "he still should have come forward, which he now admits. We should have had that conversation. . . . I'm concerned that people will get a mis-impression about Bob's value to the newspaper and our readers because of this one instance in which he should have told us sooner."
Oh really Downie. Do you really think that people might get a mis-impression? I don't think so, in fact, I think they have the right impression about Woodward.
Fitzgerald should go after butt kissing Woodward's balls. Ray Charles could see how the Corporate media is in bed with these criminals. These clowns aren't just reporting the news, they are breaking the law with these criminals. Woodward has clearly obstructed justice. I would love to see this clown spend time behind bars.
Posted by smooth at November 16, 2005 10:26 PMNow that I think about it, a nightmare lasts a single night. What's going on right now is more like suddenly waking up and seeing you're a cockroach. It just CAN'T be true!
OK, I know. That doesn't quite fit as a simile for this current situation.
But wait. There are a lot cockroaches skittering all over the White House, and as soon as a light comes on, they immediately disappear into the woodwork.
Hey, what's the number of that exterminator?
Posted by John Palcewski at November 16, 2005 11:23 PMThink about this.
Libby is involved. He is Cheney's right hand man.
Rove is involved. He is Bush's right hand man
Hadley is involved. He is Condi's right hand man.
It seems like the big three were involved too. If the fire is coming in from all sides, how long can the firewalls hold?
PS. How did the Department of Defense get so lucky to stay out of this?
Posted by KevinNYC at November 17, 2005 12:13 AMkevinnyc that's good.
and three's company so someone is going to be stabbing someone else in the back and/or trying to cover their bosses' ass.
so far scooter is covering for cheney.
and rove escaped, temporarily by a thread, so his boss is covered, for now.
and like jane at firedoglake hypothesizes, perhaps rove got away by ratting out something on hadley.
ah, the plot once again thickens and Fitzmas is coming around soon again.
like steve so rightly pointed out, it's getting awful warm there now inside the Oval office. it's time once again for the High Crimes and Misdemeanors Show!! hahahaha. gotta love it
Posted by michael72 at November 17, 2005 12:40 AMAh, I just love that stank smell of RICO in the morning. It smells like ... victory.
Posted by PrahaPartizan at November 17, 2005 02:36 AMRegarding this line: "And which is worse for Bush: the fact that he knowingly promoted two people to senior positions in the government (Secretary of State and NSA) who may have been involved in this, and lying about his knowledge of this all this time to the American people in advance of a presidential election, or not knowing any of this was going on right underneath his nose for the last two years."
Reminds me of what Fred Clark dubbed Reagan's Bind:
http://slacktivist.typepad.com/slacktivist/2003/12/reagans_bind.html
Are you sure it was Hadley who was worried about being indicted beore the Libby indictment came down? I was pretty sure that was Hannah in the OVP.
Maybe it was both.
Posted by AJ at November 17, 2005 06:12 AMYes, the traditional media is in bed with this administration. However thanks to the blogosphere, real news and unfiltered facts are just a click away. I shudder at the thought of what this administration and their band of neo-conniving wingnut cronies would have gotten away with if the internet and more specifically, the blogosphere did not exist.
Long Live The Blogosphere!!!!
AmenKaRaHeru
Posted by AmenKaRaHeru at November 17, 2005 06:54 AMYou know, I was sincerely hoping the Republicans would screw up something so the Democrats could finally win back at least one branch of the government. Damn, I need to be careful what I wish for! I am eagerly awaiting the next installment of this serial comedy of deliberate errors. If it weren't so scary for National security and the world in general,I really would be laughing.
Posted by meowomon at November 17, 2005 07:41 AMWhat are the odds that Hadley is Novak's "no partisan gunslinger" -- or would that be Ari? Or Hannah? Or ???
Where's the smart money on this question?
Posted by wtfwjd? at November 17, 2005 08:14 AMY'know the most telling thing about the Woodward story is this:
If he was told that Joe Wilson's wife was a non-covert CIA employee who had a arranged his trip, that would really be a pretty juicy bit of news, and in the wake of Wilson's op-ed you can be sure Woodward would have used it in a story, or have made SURE that someone like Pincus did.
But he didn't.
Why not?
Because he knew, and his source(s) knew, that Plame was covert.
Posted by wtfwjd? at November 17, 2005 08:23 AMCondi! Condi! Condi!
Let's see you give a piano concert from prison, you evil, sociopathic war criminal incompetent bush fucking bitch.
Posted by at November 17, 2005 08:40 AMHi. You may want to check out www.blondesense.blogspot.com (see Wed., Nov. 16) story on how Valarie Plame's CIA cover company, Brewster-Jennings, stopped the Bush regime from salting Iraq with nerve gas (WMDs)in later 2002, so that they could then claim that Saddam had WMDs. The Bush creeps are shameless criminal liars.
Cheers, James K. Sayre.
Reminds me of what Fred Clark dubbed Reagan's Bind
Been thinking the same thing for some time now: criminal mastermind or out-of-the-loop figurehead.
I shudder at the thought of what this administration and their band of neo-conniving wingnut cronies would have gotten away with if the internet...did not exist.
That's easy. See "Iran/Contra."
So, is she kinda sleezy or non?
Posted by US PERSON at November 17, 2005 12:05 PM