I assume there will be calls to stop the practice of domestic spying (without a warrant) immediately.But to do so would be a kind of admission of guilt.So, this story might stay on the front page
indefinitely,even without judicial or congressional proceedings.
Denny Hastert cuts off medicine, food, and college funding for millions of Americans. In the middle of the night.
FITZMAS!!!!!!!
Posted by glichte at December 19, 2005 03:40 AMSteve,
With all this spying on Americans without oversite going on, what do you know about Echelon?
Apparently Bush is going to hold an unscheduled press briefing this morning @ 10:30am.
Wonder why?
Perhaps OBL? Or maybe they (re)captured Zarqawi?
Posted by snark at December 19, 2005 05:42 AMWith it not being a presidential election year, bu$h sure has admitted a lot lately! I guess it's easy to be forthright after you've already fucked the constitution and your constituents!
When will the remaining 40 percent wake up?
Feingold for President!!
Posted by bbtb at December 19, 2005 05:59 AMMartin Garbus: The President's Men
Sun Dec 18, 2005.
Mafia and white-collar defendants want legal opinions that they know are wrong but are defenses if they are prosecuted. The criminal defendants claim they thought they were doing what's right because their lawyers said so. This disproves any claim that they had a criminal intent, where intent is an essential nature of the crime. It is a rock-solid defense that more often than not persuades the jury that even though what the defendant did was wrong, he should be found innocent because he relied on his lawyers.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20051218/cm_huffpost/012485;_ylt=A0SOwlrfj6VDqD8BHwr9wxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA
Oh, now I get it. So this is why Bush asked the lawyers for their opinion on spying on Americans. Neat trick. Maybe we should start prosecuting lawyers who give bad advise.
Posted by Judith at December 19, 2005 06:03 AMMartial Law in the House and the end of oversight. CBPP:
The House Republican Leadership has announced its intention to have the House vote today on conference reports on a budget-cut “reconciliation” bill (S. 1932) and the defense appropriation bill (H.R. 2863) under a procedure known as “martial law.”...
Under this procedure, longstanding House rules that require at least one day between the unveiling of significant legislation and the House floor vote on that legislation are swept away. Instead, under “martial law,” the Leadership can file legislation with hundreds of pages of fine print and move immediately to debate and votes on it, before Members of Congress, the media, or the public have an opportunity to understand fully what provisions have been altered or inserted in the legislation behind closed doors. This is the procedure the Leadership hopes to use today to muscle through these bills.
Gonzales doesn't see anything wrong with spying on Americans. Well, surprise surprise. I suppose when you know that you are never going to lose another election in this Country, it is full steam ahead. We are in big trouble in this Country. Time to make plans on leaving.
Posted by Judith at December 19, 2005 06:15 AMTime to make plans on taking this country back!!!
Posted by bbtb at December 19, 2005 06:31 AMUgh.
Because of the the continuing state of moving (it's all there, but it's all in boxes still), I've been watching the morning news instead of reading the Internet news & bloggry. This morning's ABC and NBC programs were nauseating.
" . . slurp . . slurp . . Bush is on his stride again . . slurp . . slurp . . Bush has admitted errors but plugs resolutely on . . suck . . slup . . we are winning the war on terror . . "
For awhile there, I thought we had the broadcast news media as Bush's poll numbers tanked and blood was in the water. This latest PR blitz by the White House however has seemed to blunt that attitudinal shift. As late as last week, as Bush made his series of addresses while saying little of substance, the media covered the material but made sure that coverage included critical notation. Suddenly, with a well-rehearsed weekend television address, they've all collapsed into their previous post-911 fellatio.
Posted by idiosynchronic at December 19, 2005 06:48 AMThe articles of impeachment against Nixon
By The Associated Press
Here are excerpts from the three articles of impeachment against President Nixon that were approved by the House Committee on the Judiciary in July 1974.
ARTICLE I, OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE (Approved 27-11)
In his conduct of the office of President of the United States, Richard M. Nixon, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States, and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has prevented, obstructed and impeded the administration of justice, in that:
On June 17, 1972, and prior thereto, agents of the Committee for the Re-election of the President:
Committed unlawful entry of the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee in Washington, District of Columbia, for the purpose of securing political intelligence. Subsequent thereto, Richard M. Nixon, using the powers of his high office, engaged personally and through his subordinates and agents in a course of conduct or plan designed to delay, impede, and obstruct the investigation of such unlawful entry; to cover up, conceal and protect those responsible; and to conceal the existence and scope of other unlawful covert activities. ...
Wherefore Richard M. Nixon, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office.
ARTICLE II, ABUSE OF POWER. (Approved 28-10)
Using the powers of the office of President of the United States, Richard M. Nixon, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States, and to the best of his ability preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in disregard of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has repeatedly engaged in conduct violating the constitutional rights of citizens, impairing the due and proper administration of justice in the conduct of lawful inquiries, of contravening the law of governing agencies of the executive branch and the purposes of these agencies. ...
ARTICLE III, DEFIANCE OF SUBPOENAS. (Approved 21-17)
In his conduct of the office of President of the United States, Richard M. Nixon, contrary to his oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has failed without lawful cause or excuse to produce papers and things as directed by duly authorized subpoenas issued by the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives on April 11, 1974, May 15, 1974, May 30, 1974, and June 24, 1974, and willfully disobeyed such subpoenas. ...
http://www.chron.com/content/interactive/special/watergate/impeachment.html
The "Patriot" Act is the platform for the fascist endeavor to take our rights away. Bush would make J. Edgar Hoover and Nixon proud.
Hey SSDD shit dick, Just say you support corruption, war profiteering, illegal wiretapping and not the constitution of the United States!!
Posted by bushblowsturdblossom at December 19, 2005 07:03 AMThe Republican's Mantra:
Lying about having sex with an intern = Impeachable offense.
Lying to justify a war; outing a CIA agent; spying on US citizens = patriotism.
George Orwell lives!
Posted by Cookie Monster at December 19, 2005 07:16 AMGonzales doesn't see anything wrong with spying on Americans.
He claims that the authority to go to war in Afghanistan allowed for the spying. Huh?
Posted by ann at December 19, 2005 07:35 AMein reich! ein fuhrer! fight the degenerates!
Posted by SS (DD) at December 19, 2005 07:39 AMAn IRS Cover-Up?
Senators Dorgan and Kerry try to block a report on Clinton-era abuses.
Friday, April 22, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT
Perhaps you remember Henry Cisneros. He's the former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development who pleaded guilty in 1999 to lying to FBI investigators during his pre-appointment background check about hush payments to a former mistress, on which it also happens he hadn't paid the requisite taxes.
Well, the special counsel report investigating all this still hasn't been made public, thanks largely to procedural roadblocks by Mr. Cisneros's attorneys. And now, all of a sudden, a rash of news stories and editorials are urging Independent Counsel David Barrett to wrap up his investigation forthwith, without releasing his findings.
Then there's the amendment that North Dakota Senator Byron Dorgan and co-sponsors John Kerry and Richard Durbin are trying to attach to the latest supplemental war appropriations bill that would de-fund Mr. Barrett immediately. This would have the practical effect of making sure that Mr. Barrett's report never sees the light of day. After 10 long years and $21 million, don't they think taxpayers deserve to see what the special counsel has learned?
Posted by nobull at December 19, 2005 07:50 AMWhen the revelation that Nixon had an enemies list and was spying on Americans, this Country exploded with anger. Although I know it is a different time in history, I cannot believe that Bush will be excused for these subversive acts. You are either an American, believing in freedoms, or you aren't. There is no middle ground here. This is not a case of whether you are a Democrat or Republican, this is a case about the foundation of this Country being subverted, and ALL Americans are in jeopardy regardless of party affiliation.
The media had better wake up soon. They are in dire jeopardy also. The wrong thing said, or implied, could put their name on a list of subversives. No one is immune to this fascist King.
PRESS CONFERENCE:
Bush has just said that he will continue this spying on Americans whether we like it or not because he has that right. He further stated that the Constitution gives him that right. "This is a different kind of War". Bush said that those who leaked this information committed "shameful acts," and this "leak has helped the enemy."
I am feeling sick to my stomach.
Posted by Judith at December 19, 2005 07:50 AMIn Today's press conference,Bush repeated the answers of Gonzales,essentially saying that he relied on his lawyers to determine it was legal to spy without warrants.
Posted by Kevin at December 19, 2005 07:52 AMA new study proves media bias. The link is here
Posted by at December 19, 2005 07:58 AMAmericans on the whole are a cruel, fascist, xenophobic, suspicious, misogynistic, homophobic, superstitious people. All these traits allow Bush to break the law in the fashion he does. How many of us, when discussing violations of our rights, have heard people say "Let them come into my home, listen in on my phone calls, read my mail, I don't have anything to hide"? Millions of people, when espousing such sentiments, are forfeiting the entire 4th Amendment to the Constitution. Whether they'd honestly accept their mail and phone being routed through a government office is debateable, yet they gladly forsake these rights in theory when it doesn't touch them directly (as far as they know). So, when Bush pulls these stunts they support him or at a minimum don't care enough to raise hell about it. Bush and Rove know this and use it. As long as it's Arabs, Muslims, Gays, feminists, academics, atheists, "elitist libruls" or other convenient demons getting killed, thrown in jail or hauled into court they're happy. Bush will get away with his NSA antics and more because he's truly doing the bidding of the vast majority of the U.S. populace.
Posted by steve duncan at December 19, 2005 08:02 AMSSDD,
You talk about things like bug spray. You'd better be careful what you wish for, those kind of words have a way of coming back to you.
On Saturday, Bush acknowledged he authorized the NSA to intercept international communications of people in the United States "with known links" to terror groups, and criticized the media for divulging the program.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/18/bush.nsa/
Apparently the Liberals/Terrorist supporters here have something to hide? Worried about those calls to your buddies overseas hmmmmmm???
God damn liberal hypocrites are running rampant around here. Someone get the Raid and start spraying.
Can you say Echelon bitches!
Posted by SSDD at December 19, 2005 07:34 AM
*****
I will fucking rip off your head and shit down your neck, you little piece of Nazi shit.
Try me.
Posted by God Of War at December 19, 2005 08:08 AMI will guarantee that on Bush's enemy list are Blogs such as The Left Coaster. I am equally as sure that this site is being monitored. Six months ago I would have doubted, but not now.
Posted by Judith at December 19, 2005 08:09 AMAgain GW is saying that WHIP is in effect. Can't hold hearings about spying on people because he can't let the enemy know what's going on.
Also, he wants investigations into who let this leak. Bad, bad people who want to let Americans know that we are being spied on.
Oh and good news, the intelligence agencies have now fixed all of the problems that they had in determining WMD. We can trust him now.
What a relief.
Posted by Anjha at December 19, 2005 08:09 AMSpying, wiretaps, that stuff goes on all the time. This isn't about what Clinton did vs. what Bush did, so let it go, trolls. This is about the fact that Bush decided he was above the law and didn't need to bother himself with getting warrants.
SSDD, do you really believe that they are only spying on terrorists and those with al-Queda ties? Don't be so naive. You're posting on a liberal blog, I'm sure they've got your number, and I doubt they even bother to read that you're pro-Bush. Just the simple fact that you are posting on a liberal blog is probably enough for them to tap your phone lines.
As for your comment about Raid, were you purposefully invoking the kind of hatred (cockroaches) that led to the genocide in Rwanda? Lovely.
Posted by ann at December 19, 2005 08:11 AMThe clownish trolls are out in force these days.
Somethings got them all aflutter.
Posted by snark at December 19, 2005 08:12 AMThe clownish trolls are out in force these days.
Somethings got them all aflutter.
Posted by snark at December 19, 2005 08:12 AM
*****
That would be their impending extinction.
Posted by God Of War at December 19, 2005 08:14 AMI wondered when the God of Bullshit was going to spout off. You trying to shut me up big boy! Why don't you put me on a train and give me a tattoo. Or how about you grab your knife and saw my head off. I assume you do that daily right? You terrorist supporting hypocrite!
Posted by SSDD at December 19, 2005 08:15 AM
*****
Why don't you put your cowardly ass on a train, come see me, and watch me live up to my name.
Punk ass nazi bitch.
Posted by God Of War at December 19, 2005 08:17 AMSSDD, GO FUCK YOURSELF! I'm in no mood at the moment to listen to traitors such as yourself.
Zieg heil Mein Fuhur!
SSVD,
Fuck you. With a serrated broomstick.
I'm no hypocrite. You call people who defend the Constitution "terrorist supporters." I call that Nazi bullshit. An accurate assessment of one with the moniker "SS".
I'm just telling you how I treat nazis. If you don't want the treatment, don't be a nazi.
Fuck off.
Posted by God Of War at December 19, 2005 08:39 AMSSDD, Is quickly turning into Bagley, a little more fascist! I'm sure he got his call up notice and has to serve in the U.S. Army instead of his beloved Navy! It has to have his undies in a wad!
Or he's the bitch that goes out in the woods and shoots rounds off and acts like he is in Iraq.
I'm convinced that neo-cons are paying these jokers to come here and stir the pot!
Posted by bbtb at December 19, 2005 08:47 AM"You trying to shut me up big boy!"
SSDD, that's too funny. You and your kind would love nothing better than to shut up the patriots of this Country. What the fuck do you think Bush's spying on Americans is about? If you don't know, ask any anti-war dissenter from the 70's. Fucking idiot.
Posted by Judith at December 19, 2005 08:49 AMI know what SS stand for, but what does DD stand for?
Posted by Judith at December 19, 2005 08:51 AMDefense Department
Posted by bbtb at December 19, 2005 08:55 AMWe are in a fight of good against evil. Just as we were during WWII, fighting Hitler and his henchmen. These people are not trolls, they are the enemy, plain and simple. They and their leader would gladly send each and everyone of us off to concentration camps as enemies of the state. Don't fool yourselves. SSDD is an arm of a regime that does not believe in truth or freedoms.
Posted by Judith at December 19, 2005 08:57 AMbbtb, thanks.
Posted by Judith at December 19, 2005 08:59 AMHey same shit different dork,
Did ya see your boy's presser...what a pathetic loser...if this was KKkarl's idea what a mistake....in between mostly incoherent ramblings ,he displayed anger outbursts and pissed off rants, sprinkled with the ole standby 9/11, 9/11,9/11 SaddaOsama... he surely didn't instill any confidence to reassure the American people with that pathetic performance...well except for Bush lovers such as yourself. How embarrassing....and I am truly ashamed he is our president. Truly ashamed.
We should not vote to renew the Patriot Act. Plain and simple.
Posted by Judith at December 19, 2005 09:03 AMThere is no doubt that we are in the fight of our lives, and for our children's lives! It is like WWII, it's domestic this time!
When the time comes, I'll be serving (again) to fight domestic fascism!!
Store bought, tailor made, or roll your own?
Posted by Ken Melvin at December 19, 2005 09:42 AMWhen George the W utters the phrase "with known links to Al-Qaeda" e'erbody needs to stop and reflect. He said the same thing about Saddam, and some members of his mysadministration continue to make that assertion. And guess what, they were Wrong then, they're Wrong now and they will continue to be Wrong far into the future. Did anyone notice during Pretzelnit's "news conference" that he at least once said "Saddam" when he was actually talking about OBL? That's called catapulting the propaganda. Sheesh. (:>
Posted by Donald Cormac at December 19, 2005 10:36 AMI'm convinced that neo-cons are paying these jokers to come here and stir the pot!
Ten dollars per post.
Actually, it might be more profitable for you to return working for Jeff Gannon's escort service.
god of war sucks monkey cock
Posted by at December 19, 2005 12:22 PMGood to see everyone's in the holiday spirit. Regarding the illegal wire tapping, it is typical Rovian garbage you would expect of Bush and eight-legged friends.
As for them monitoring this blog, of course they do. And it probably drives them nuts, as it should.
Posted by tempus at December 19, 2005 01:02 PMgod of war sucks monkey cock
Posted by at December 19, 2005 12:22 PM
*****
No, that would be Chris Matthews, FOX"news", SSDD, et al.
They are most definitely sucking G.W. Monkey dick.
And they can't get enough.
Posted by God Of War at December 19, 2005 05:44 PM… de-fund Mr. Barrett immediately. This would have the practical effect of making sure that Mr. Barrett's report never sees the light of day. After 10 long years and $21 million, don't they think taxpayers deserve to see what the special counsel has learned?Posted by nobullThis clown, Barrett, is making a good living conducting a no-investigation for 10 years. In that time, he has found nothing but managed to milk the system. It is long past the time his operation is shut done. Mr. Barrett can publish his report any time he wishes, but that would mean the end of his sinecure. If you want to see a presidential cover up check this out.
The cost of Indepencent Counsel Barrett is at:
www.gao.gov/new.items/d05961.pdf
A new study proves media bias. The link is here Posted by at DeceWow, another right wing publication says there is "liberal" media. Sorry, people, the American media is overwhelmingly rightwing. Turn on your radio. Turn on your TV. Read your newspaper. It's all right wing crap.
Ten dollars per post. Posted by SSDDAstro-Trolls Posted by Mike at December 19, 2005 07:05 PM
Here is a more accessible article on the Barrett investigation.
Posted by Mike at December 19, 2005 07:09 PM