If you pay close attention, Reuters has this article filed under ENTERTAINMENT NEWS.
I think that's just wierd.
Okay, okay. I was wrong.
I'd seen this story at another blog, and that blog directed via this URL:
http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=10779322
Posted by editor at January 6, 2006 04:38 PMOn another occasion Bremmer said that Washington forced him to disband the Iraqi army against his wishes. I can't recall where I saw this. Does any one have a better memory on this? A better question might be "Does it matter, given the unending lies that this group spews."
Posted by m at January 6, 2006 04:43 PMThnks fr th nf n Pl, bt th nly srprs s tht h flt th rq grll's mprtnt ngh t ffr cmmnt. Y s, r crrnt cbl n DC nd n th fft Hll lrdy ndrstnd tht r mdrn Bbylnn vls hv tkn rt; frthr, w hv cntrl f th l rsrvs, whch s prrty n. Snc w hv sccssflly plntd, wtrd nd r nw nrtrng r mddl clss lbrl vls n rq, nt n pymnt fr thr l rsrvs, bt ll wthn th mddl clss scl cnstrctn f rlty n trms f cntrl, r pcfctn, t mntn l rsrv cntrl. nc r 'vls' mbrcs thr rlgs nstttn wthn r fll mtl jckt f cmplt rblln gnst Gd, thy wll b ll t rdy t sbmt t thr nw Gd: Prft, lbt rthr hrsh lrd, t b sr.
Dn't blm th rght wng gys lk Pl, t.l., fr th crrnt stt f zmb dlsn tht w hv lvd thrgh snc th frst glf pllg, (hw fr d y wnt t g bck n hstry? K, r fn Bbyln hs pllgd cntnlly fr th lst 100 yrs). Bcs hv sm rthr bd nws fr lbrls nd thr mnstrm cnsttncy, Bsh wll mst crtnly gt hs wy. Cngrss wll cnfrm Mr. lt; Cngrss wll b hlplss n th fc f mltpl Bsh cbl crmnl ctvty; th rq grlls r nrng th pnt f ncndtnl srrndr; Bsh s lrdy sttng p th mltry t nt nly dcptt rn, bt cntrl ts l rsrvs; Chn wll prbbly xpl ts sprfcl bby cmmnsm nd mpld nt sm frm f mdrn lbrl mnstrm rpblc. Sn ftr, ll thr cntrs wll cptlt t Bbyln, (S).
Thr s cnsdrbl rny t th bv sn-t-b-hstry scnr: Th ‘rlgs rght-wng’ fc f r cbl cvrs ts lbrl rts. Wht m syng hr s tht Bsh s mst crtnly nt ‘rght wng, fscst,’ tc. h s mr lbrl thn ths wh cnflct wth cbl plcy mkrs; frthr, h s n mr r n lss crmnl thn th s-clld ‘mnstrm‘ lbrl/mddl clss f th dy. ndd, wtht th lbrls, r mdrn cbl mkng systm nvr wld hv rrvd t th scl px. n fct, fscsm, th wy w hv bjctfd ndrstndng f th cncpt, s th drct rslt f lbrl dlgy; fr ‘lbrl’ s mrly nthr wy f vwng mny fngrs f vrs scl stns grndd n r nntly vl hmn ntr. ‘Lbrl,’ r ‘rltvsm,’ r ‘trth nly xsts n mny frms, thrfr bslt Trth ds nt xst,’ prdcs n tcm n mttr hw w vw th cncpt: Twr f Bbl tryng t rch Gd wth ts wn gspl cmpltly gnrng nd flng t ndrstnd th Gspl Gd prvdd s n Hs Wrd, th Bbl. Th ltmt rslt f ths hmnsm ‘phlsphy’ s th dltry f mn s Gd. Ths w nt th mrrr rflctns btwn th physcl mgs f r cbl, wth ts ttndng Hll f ffts, nd r crprt vrlrds, nd r ‘lbrls’ tht mbrc n ncrdbl myrd f bth trght crmnlty nd cscdng wtrfll f scl scd plcs f th pst 100 yrs. Ths s th pnt: t ws th lbrl plcs f scl scd tht prdcd r ‘lbrl’ pltcl cbl f th dy. r dsgrntld lbrls, ths tht sprt thmslvs frm thr cbl chldrn/spwn n pltcl pwr, hv nly t lk nt th mrrr nd t ndrstnd tht thy r sng th nmy: thmslvs!
Why s t tht thnk hv hndl n r crrnt rslt f yr scl cnstrctn f rlty? Gd gv Hs lct th Bbl t bth ndrstnd Hm, rslvs, nd hv shdw f ndrstndng gnrl ftr vnts nd hw ths hstrcl vnts n ctlty sbtly rflct sprtl wrfr n th dmnsn tht w qntly ndrstnd s, ‘hvn.’
nd H gvs th nsvd th stndrd f msrmnt t vlt Hs ‘prphts,’ r ‘lct,’ r ‘svd,’ r ‘tr blvrs:’ smply, f wht stt n th bv cms tr, thn m f Gd. f nt, thn m n dffrnt thn th vry lbrl cbl f DC r MSL, (mnstrm lbrls!). Ths, lng ftr th rdr tht trtrsly wdd thrgh th bv scrd, frgts ths wrds, (bt 2 mnts, Gd s ndd pwrfl) th bv bcms hstry; yt, n n stll wll lrn t srch th Bbl fr nswrs, bcs nly Gd pns ys nd rs bfr Hs Wrd mks ny sns whtsvr. T th pnt: my bv prdctns cm frm th Bbl, nt drm, vsn, r mn-md ntllctl cncctn f ddly rltd wrds dsgnd t ncrs scl dlsn f Trth.
Fnlly, w r th Bbyln f 4th cntry BC. N n std n th wy f th Bbyln f thn, nr wll thy bstrct th Bbyln f tdy.
[Editor: ignore=off]
Hell, these guys never even anticipated that the war would cost anything, or require more than a few tens of thousands of troops. Why on Earth would they have anticipated a brutal insurgency?
Posted by dj moonbat at January 6, 2006 05:20 PM,i>Finally, we are the Babylon of 4th century BC. No one stood in the way of the Babylon of then, nor will they obstruct the Babylon of today.
Babylon wasn't 8 trillion in debt.
Posted by at January 6, 2006 05:23 PMScout posted on January 6, 2006 at 05:06 PM
Finally, we are the Babylon of 4th century BC. No one stood in the way of the Babylon of then, nor will they obstruct the Babylon of today.
Sorry, Scout, you're dead wrong. The Babylon of 4th century BCE got wiped off the map by the Greeks, after they had been wiped off the map by the Persians two centuries earlier. Perhaps you were thinking of the Babylonians of the 4th millenia BCE?
Nice try to blame everything on those evil libruls, though, Scout. I thought God-fearing folk didn't like playing the blame game. Or does that only apply when God-fearing folk must accept responsbility for their screw-ups before their peers and their God, allowing them to dump on whomever they want. Can the rapture right even be considered Christian, since they rarely bother to offer the Lord's words from the Gospels in their screeds?
Posted by PrahaPartizan at January 6, 2006 05:26 PMDamn scout, what a waste of space that was.
Posted by bbtb at January 6, 2006 05:43 PMunfortunately, no one can obstruct your babble-on, either, scout...
Posted by leftAhead at January 6, 2006 05:51 PMunfortunately, no one can obstruct your babble-on, either, scout...
Ouch.
Posted by dj moonbat at January 6, 2006 05:52 PMbbtb, I think you've just demonstrated you're not one of God's Elect.
Now get out that Bible and get down to some REAL geopolitical predictions!
Posted by euzoius at January 6, 2006 05:55 PMunfortunately, no one can obstruct your babble-on, either, scout...
Ba-dum-bum!
But seriously, the psychological term for scout's rant is called "word salad," a phenomenon associated with schizophrenia. Or, he could just be fookin' drunk.
Posted by iamcoyote at January 6, 2006 06:00 PMAs for Bremer, he'll find that he's made a mistake trying to deflect blame at this time. He has no defenders against the BFEE. He won't get creamed, they do even worse to him: they'll ignore his ass and his book will fizzle out.
Posted by iamcoyote at January 6, 2006 06:06 PMAt least Bush is getting a dose of his own medicine. This time the "somebody else" who is blamed is Jr. himself.
Old cliche at work here: what goes round come round.
Posted by Ga6thDem at January 6, 2006 06:18 PMBremer seems to have a habit of making these "interesting" comments only when there is no way to have his comments actually recorded.
But of course there was no other conclusion for an aware person to draw other than that Bushco didn't anticipate the insurgency.
von Rumsfeld went in with less than half the troops the Army Chief of Staff and US Army War College advised, didn't think it necessary to secure Saddam's dozens of munitions dumps, didn't see a need to secure most government buildings and ministries, disbanded the Iraqi army and demonized the country's only experienced civil servants.
What possible evidence could Field Marshall von Rumsfeld and Procurator Bremer point to prove they DID anticipate the insurgency? Anything? What?
Posted by euzoius at January 6, 2006 06:20 PMe, I've got one liners only today, sick as a dog.
Posted by bbtb at January 6, 2006 06:25 PMBut of course there was no other conclusion for an aware person to draw other than that Bushco didn't anticipate the insurgency.
JFC, even I anticipated the insurgency! As soon as the Republican Guard melted into the fringes; as soon as Sadr City started to rumble. And I didn't know shit about warfare until this started.
Operation Rewrite History: Engaged.
bbtb - sad to hear you're feeling poorly.
Posted by iamcoyote at January 6, 2006 06:31 PMThnks ll; Y'r rght, Prh, Jrslm fll bt 587 BC t Bbyln, whch fll t Prs/Mds n bt 539 BC, ths s th 6th cntry BC, nt 4th, whch ws th tm f lxndr (333 BC) wh pvd th wy fr Rm, r th S, r Bbyln, (n dstnctn, rlly).
Th mdrn crprt lrds s th ntnl trsry fr thr mltry dvntrs; ftr thy'v ltd th trsry, n ths cs, svrl yrs g, thn thy frc th txpyrs, t brrw mny frm...thmslvs! Th txpyrs r rpd nc gn t brrw mny frm th sns t py th stpd ntrst, (Chn's th mny hldr!). Prft ds nt trckl dwn, bt flws lk rvr nt th crprt bnk ccnts. Th crprt lrds grm th pltcl fft t s ny rpds n th crprt rvrs v lgsltn, tc. Ths s th prtl src f th ncrdbl rrgnc f th crprt hgmny f th pst 100 yrs. (Thy nt nly thnk w r stpd, bt knw w r stpd.)
Thr r tw fctrs tht mpwr th bv bzrr fnncl cnnblsm, tht cn thnk f nw: frst, f w cntrl mst f th wrld's l rsrvs, thn prhps ftr cbls n DC wll py dwn th dbt whn l rchs $150 brrl. l wll b mr vlbl thn th gld nd dmnds w by fr r wmn. Th scnd s ls rltd t pwr, s th bv: w s th rslt f Rnn's nlshng f th trsry drng th 80's t fnnc ncrdbl mltry pwr. W, n mttr f dys, n thr sprt ctns, nt th fll f tw cntrs hlf wy rnd th wrld. Qt mprssv, n n sns...nt tht th wrld s ndd mst frfl f s vn tdy. BRC n't gt blls yt; nd rp s stll sck nd stpd.
Prh, y hv fr pnt bt 'Chrstnty.' Thr s hstry, cnsdrbl, wthn th hstry nd psychlgy f rlgn. Th nd pnt s tht th nstttn f rlgn, th vry nstttn tht st th prmtrs nd gdlns f ll scl nstttns n th S, hs ndrgn rgnzd nd systmtc dstrctn; th nd rslt s tht tr Chrstnty, f th typ f th rly chrch, rly Cthlcsm, thn Crmwll nd Clvn, s nw rdcld vn t th cmmns sns lvl.
Hw? r crprt lrds, whn thy wr cnsdrbly wkr, snc th Cvl Wr, cm p gnst th Rlgn Rdblck t Prft. Fr nstnc, th vrg lltrt cntry by, nd grl, f 100 yrs g flly ndrstd tht mn’s bsc ntr ws vl: thy wldn’t by pckgd tml bcs thy cldn’t s wht thy wr byng, thy bght blk. ll cmmrclsm ws clsd n Sndys, vry bd fr prft. Thr wr vry strct mrl lws nd nnt xpcttns pn wht ws prpr: bd fr prft. Ths gy vn pssd lws gnst lchl: bd fr prft. Th lst s ndlss, bt y gt my pnt.
Th crprt lrds fght bck, nd wn bg tm. vry gd bsnssmn s ly psychlgst: thy hv t b bcs thy knw tht vryn s jst s flthy s thmslvs. Th Hllywd ‘clny’ bcm kngdm pcfyng th msss by gvng thm wht thy wntd: vrs frms f dgrdtn f mrlty, xpltng vrs hmn wknsss tht frcd th vrg gy t qstn wht th Bbl clms s tr. Th bttm ln s tht dstrst f crprt fft wrng mnky st, chngd nt ‘trst,’ s f thy r r frnds: ths s th stff f bsc ‘dvrtsmnts’ n th tlvsn, r frst nd ftn nly tr tchr f th mdrn zmb.
bgn t lk nt th scl cnstrctn f th bv crp n bt 1992; nt nly dd nt s ny wy t f th mss, bt bgn t s sprntrl pttrn t th nfldng f hstry drng th pst 150 yrs. Th scl mtrx, whl cmpltly flld wth hstry, hd n cmmn thrd: mn’s nnt vl ntr. kpt cmng crss Bblcl stff spkng t ths vry pnt; s rd thrgh svrl trnsltns nd dscvrd tht thr s ndd Gd. nd ths s th tgh prt: wthn ll hmn hstry, hstry tht s slnt t s, tht s, pwrfl mn, wrs, xplts, mvmnts, tc., s vry sbtl thrd, pprng xtrmly wk, s wk s dv, (d y gt th pctr?). Ths tny thrd s nttd by Gd t scr Hs slvtn pln. Slvtn frm wht? Frm Hm. Gd wnts smll grp f ppl fr Hmslf; nd, nlk wht th qck pstrs f th dy clm, thr s nt n thng sprtlly dd prsn cn d t sv hmslf frm th ppntd tm f Gd’s wrth.
Th n-cns f tdy r nt th rdcl rpblcns f th pst cvl wr prd; thy r jst s lbrl s ny fft dmcrt n th Hll. ndd, thy r th vry rslt f ‘lbrl’ plcs dsgnd drng th pst 150 yrs. Th crprtns hv thr lw tht gvs t th sm lgl rghts s prsn: w hv nw bjctfd ths cncpt nt n dlztn f th crprtn. W s th mdrn Nmrd nt nly wthn vry pltcl prty, bt wthn vrydy ppl thmslvs. Th crprt vctry s s cmplt tht vn r ppntd nd slrd brn dd dts sns th ‘vctry’ wth thr rrgnt ltn. Thy r wtht cl bt th mpndng dngr, n ndrstndng f hmn ntr, yt xprss nfntl cstsy n th ‘prgrss’ f r crprt gds, wth thr ntrnchd scl nstttns f vrs dgrs f dltry spprt.
"...I began to see a supernatural pattern to the unfolding of history during the past 150 years." Oh for heaven's sake. ;-)
Let's all go back to the 14th century when we didn't have that darn enlightenment with all that darn doodley arn rational, LIBERAL thought. Gracious, no. sigh...
Scout, humans can be rational beings, which means that we can exercise our brain power to effectuate change. In other words, we can throw these criminal, Republic scum out on their butt and take steps to fix their mess. I for one can look fondly back at the Clinton years and see a lot happier time. We can do it again by ousting Republics at every level from the president on down.
Posted by weinerdog43 at January 6, 2006 07:44 PMOf course Jay Garner saw it coming - so he hd to be replaced by a suitably placed frat boy
Posted by earlthepearl at January 6, 2006 09:14 PMScout,
As a humble request, when publishing your theses on the collective religious history of the world in less than 10 pages, please make it easier to read by formatting properly with spaces between paragraphs. Though not impossible to read, it's difficult to follow as is. I must say your writing style is superb, otherwise.
Thanks.
Posted by DukeRevolution at January 6, 2006 09:49 PMThere was no Babylon in the 4th millenium.
Posted by Brian Boru at January 6, 2006 09:53 PMIt's been an ongoing source of stupefaction for me how many people seem willing to refer to the disbanding of the army as Bremer's decision. I don't find it remotely conceivable that Bush and Rumsfeld just stood back on that issue and told Bremer he should make that decision. Not a chance.
Posted by st33ve at January 6, 2006 10:33 PMI'm with St33ve, Bremer undertook these decisions right after he landed in Iraq. These two orders were the preconditions of his job. If he didn't agree to them, he never would have been chosen.
It's a sad commentary that Bush has never been asked about this as his own decision. We are so acccustomed to treating Bush like a child, no one asks.
Posted by KevinNYC at January 7, 2006 04:08 AMyet, no one still will learn to search the Bible for answers,
True. I read the thing for what it says. Not what I can interpret from it, filtering it through a robust imagination, and then bastardizing it to support a political meme.
So, I am positive I will roast in hell tied to a barbecue spit, sowly turning over a hot fire composed of cordwood from the current crop of evangelicals, assembly-o-gawders, neo-cons, the bulk of the republi-con's and most christians from the United States. It's stunning to me that all of these dorks think they are saved, but their bible tells them they will still burn in hell -regardless of what weird salvation they think they might have achieved or possess- if they don't do certain things. And I assure you, these are the things they ain't doing to get mercy from their god.
I suggest Matthew 25. Start at 31 and read on down.
Posted by phidipides at January 7, 2006 08:45 AMEvery time my wife reads a Bush quote she is astounded by his lack of English language skills.
Every time I read a Bush quote I see him as one of the special education students I teach every day.
His lack of language skills bother me, but his lack of compassion, failure to learn from his mistakes, short attention span, unwillingness to study new situations before pronouncing judgement, stubborness, selfishness and refusal to take responsibility for anything he has done or condoned scares the hell out of me.
Just because Bremer and Bush didn't see an insurgency coming doesn't mean that many of us were as short-sighted as they were. Just about ANY Vietnam vet saw it coming with a vengence.
Didn't Mao say something about letting the enemy come close, too close to swing their weapons, and then strike? Well, you don't see much use for our B-2 bombers in Iraq. We are in close, using females to guard convoys, and they are striking.