"Al Qaeda's second-in-command said President Bush had admitted defeat in Iraq by announcing plans to reduce the American troop presence in the country, saying the move would be a victory for Islam.
"Bush, you must admit that you have been defeated in Iraq and that you are being defeated in Afghanistan and that you will soon be defeated in Palestine," Zawahiri said, according to a translation of his statement by the Washington-based SITE Institute."
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Sounds like Al-Qaeda has gotten hold of one of those Democrat strategy memos (or they've been watching John Murtha).
How pathetic is it when the terrorist enemy is using the EXACT same strategy as a political party here at home.
And you guys think you're going to get power back in November???? LOL LOL LOL!!!!
Posted by David at January 6, 2006 09:48 PM"But the agency made an upward revision to show a gain of 305,000 jobs in November from a prior estimate of 215,000.
The unemployment rate, meanwhile, fell to 4.9 percent."
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Am I the only one who actually reads past the first sentence in these articles?
I wonder how far up the numbers for December will be adjusted next month like they were for November.
I guess liberals would be happy if there was negative job growth.
BTW, this is the LOWEST unemployement rate in 10 years. Yeah, this economy really sucks.
Posted by David at January 6, 2006 09:56 PMDavid, drag your sorry ass to John Murtha's face and equate him to Al Qaeda; I dare you. The old man had the guts to fight for his country, and has earned the right to say what he wants about Bush and his policies. But the best bedwetting pussies like you, who are scared of Al Qaeda's shadow or your own shadow for that matter, can do is take shots at Murtha and say something stupid about Democrats and Al Qaeda.
What war did you fight in David, and if you did, why didn't they frag your sorry ass, you pathetic miserable fuck?
And as for reading the stories, did you also read the part where it said the unemployment rate went down because people left the labor market for a variety of reasons?
It's pretty bad when a stupid troll stays up to about ten o'clock on the coast to post the usual GOP drivel. What's the matter David? Did your inflatable date leave you?
Posted by Steve Soto at January 6, 2006 10:00 PMOn Chris Matthews:
You know, ordinarily, it's not my style post this kind of quip, but indeed, Matthews is starting to creep me out. He really does sound like he considers Bush and DeLay his close friends and lovers when he talks about them. What is up with that?
Posted by Liveliest Crib at January 7, 2006 01:58 AMSteve, I must admit it does get tiresome hearing the predictable bullshit from these people. The rhetoric never changes. Bush good, liberals bad. Booooooring.
Phidipides, in case you missed my post.
Phidipides, yeah it was right after TLC Convention. Remember, J. West was there with Cindy Sheehan? Boy, was he all over her. If memory serves me well, I think my impression was of Condi. Remember the stellito heels? The best part of the night was when you kicked David's ass and he left the party humiliated. Anyway, it is great to have you back. I missed your postings.
Posted by Judith at January 7, 2006 04:33 AMJudith,
They are predictable LOL! Such cowards. If they truly believed even their own rhetoric, they would be calling for a draft and massive troop increases. But no, they would rather diddle along in a quagmire and sream at anyone who questions the king. What a bunch of wimps.
Oxymoron: Patriotic liberal
Posted by Tony at January 7, 2006 06:40 AMOxymoron: Patriotic liberal
Posted by Tony at January 7, 2006 06:40 AM
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Like the patriotic liberals who founded this nation, you hideous fuck?
Your kind would have been (and still are) loyal to the throne.
Fuck off.
Posted by God Of War at January 7, 2006 06:56 AMWhew, Steve, I wish I could put words to my anger like that. I usually get so pissed that I can't think straght for about an hour. The amount of stupidity in some trolls amazes me.
How about more oxymorons:
conservative empathizer
moronic bu$h
honest GOP administration
Posted by bbtb at January 7, 2006 08:31 AMSorry, moronic bu$h was a redundancy.
Posted by bbtb at January 7, 2006 09:07 AMRegarding AP-IPSOS poll showing generic dems with a 13 point lead over republicans.
With all due respect but how stupid are you to put any credence in polls? Don't you know that looking at the internals of the polls show how bogus they are? Anyone who quotes polls is an idiot.
Simple question, what is the approximate break down of republicans, dems and independents in the nation? I don't know the exact numbers but roughly it is around 30% independent, and repubs and dems pretty closely splitting the remaining 70%. I think more people identify themselves as republicans but I will give the dems a break and say the split is even at around 35% dems, 35% republicans.
Now, for a poll to be even close to being valid the respondents should pretty closely follow the % split between independents, dems and repubs. It is obvious if 60% of respondents are repubs then the results would probably show a favoring towards republicans.
Now, lets get back to the AP-IPSOS poll you so proudly proclaim shows dems with a 13% lead over the republicans. Do your research and look at the % break down of the respondents (see link below) and you will se the break down of respondents is 52% Dems, 40% Repubs and 8% independents.
With skewed percentages like that of course the results would show Dems in the lead.
You are a Freakin BOZO for touting bogus polls. What is more concerning is how AP-IPSOS says they are a non-partisan polling firm and they release poll results showing a Dem lead without telling in the story they totally skewed the results by going with a BOGUS percentage breakdown of respondents.
It is time for you to realize that POLLS are bogus because of the dishonest stunts that are pulled. How ridiculous is it to poll 52% dems, 40% repubs and 8% independents when actual split is roughly 1/3, 1/3, 1/3. DISHONEST AND A FRAUD and you are an IDIOT for believing the results without taking the time to look how skewed the sampling is.
Posted by d meyers at January 7, 2006 09:40 AM
you guys can't debate civially, can you?
Posted by trey at January 7, 2006 09:58 AMRemember, J. West was there with Cindy Sheehan? Boy, was he all over her
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Actually, that was Cindy's transsexual brother "Randi" Sheehan, and yes, he was all over "her".
Posted by sf at January 7, 2006 10:46 AMFun to see Al Qaeda play Bush like a violin?
It's comments like these that confirm people's deepest cynicism about those on the left, that is, they would rather see Bush look bad then attain victory in the War on Terror.
It's interesting that your first instinct is to find pleasure in the hope that Bush will look bad in the public's eyes based on Zawahiri's comments, rather than express anger towards a sworn enemy of the USA who would like to do violence against us again.
Sorry, but I can't help but question your patriotism.
Posted by PaulC at January 7, 2006 11:05 AMOh, more of the we're patriotic, your not. Oh hum. Boooooring.
sf, yeah I forgot about Randi.
Posted by Judith at January 7, 2006 11:20 AMBoy, some people get really upset and fearful when polls show something they don't want to see. Buckup kiddies, it can change tomorrow.
Posted by Judith at January 7, 2006 11:23 AMPaulC,
I don't question thier patriotism, it's non-existant. Being joyful over a precieved victory of the enemy over the leader of your own country during war...isn't that pretty much a definition of treason. To be fair though, these poor fucks have had to twist reality around so much to fit thier beliefs, they no longer know up from down, much less right from wrong. They are pitiful, not dangerous.
As for who the cowards are, it's pretty safe to critisize anything American, But I don't see anyone on the left calling the Islamists on thier TRUE pursicution of gays, virtual enslavement of women, enforced participation in thier religion for those under thier power, and the purposfull killing of innocents to make a point. THAT could get a guys head cut off!
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting, thats Americans fault all, for buying thier oil and being allies with Isreal.
I know I said it already, but it bears repeating...pitiful.
Sorry, but I can't help but question your patriotism.
Posted by PaulC at January 7, 2006 11:05 AM
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"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." Thomas Jefferson
"All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should.
The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men." Samuel Adams
"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."
Declaration of Independence
"Beware of the leader, who strikes the war drum in order to transfer the citizens into patriotic glow, patriotism is indeed a double-sided sword. It makes the blood so boldly, like it constricts the intellect. And if the striking of the war drum reached a fiebrige height and the blood is cooking and hating, and the intellect is dismissed, the leader doesn't need to reject the citizens rights. The citizens, cought by anxiety and blinded through patriotism, will subordinate all their rights to the leader and this even with happy courage. Why do I know that? I know it, because this is, what I did. And I am Gajus Julius Cäsar."
And:
"Fuck You" - Anjha
I have to admit it is fun to see Al Qaeda play Bush like a violin....
????????????
So you are rooting for the scum that gave us 9/11 and states in their fatwa:
"...to kill the Americans and their allies--civilians and military--is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it..."
You are so pathetic...
Judith, I caught your post. Thanks!
I guess liberals would be happy if there was negative job growth.
Nah. That would be silly. We only want the numbers to reflect the true 11% unemployment in America, for you to stop calling McDonalds jobs manufacturing jobs, and to stop lowering the true inflation rate through the artifice of hedonic regression.
Oh yeah, and for screws like you to stop that lunatic fucking meme that the Founding Founders weren't confronted with terrorism, making the Constitution a mute point. The Founding Fathers had foreign troops on American soil who kicked doors in, took property without warrant, tried and executed without representation, killed Americans as traitors to the King, and made war. That's why we have the Constitution we have. You fucks are mere poseurs, and the Founding Fathers knew how to deal with your type of political perversion.
Posted by phidipides at January 7, 2006 01:18 PMus out of saudi arabia, pronto!
thank you brother bush!
Posted by osama at January 7, 2006 01:26 PM"The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, for the vast masses of the nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies but would be ashamed to tell a big one."-Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
Posted by bbtb at January 7, 2006 01:39 PMHummm, I doubt Jefferson defined dessent as assisting the enemy with thier propaganda during war.
Adams spoke of the duty to resist assults on our liberty, as won for us by previous war, during the run up to the war of 1812. It's kinda disingenuous to twist that into an anti-war statement.
Bush did not "beat the war drum to enfuse a glow of patriotism" for a potitical reason, it was in resonse to a devastating attack on this country by a power that declaired war on us. And before you say Iraq wasn't resposable for 9/11, grow up. Iraq is not a punitive action, it is a strategic move in a broader campaign. In case you haven't noticed, militarily we are in a much, much better tactical position in the middle east, the vipers nest of terrorism. By inserting ourselves in(and making an ally of)Iraq, we are right next door to Iran, and Syria. Or perhaps you believe that was an accident.Idiot.
pondscum
Posted by liberal scum at January 7, 2006 01:55 PMThe responses of the lefties amazes me. Undoubtedly they consider themselves more intelligent than mere conservatives, but their debate tactics consist largely of vulgar name calling and deflecting. "Pussies"? Is this high school? "Fuck off"??? Learn that at Harvard? And what "substance" there is is simply regurgitated from some Molly Ivanesque column - the whole chicken - hawk theme, for example. When I decide to explore the sewers that are the comment sections of liberal blogs I'm always astounded at the true viciousness and, sadly, lack of intellect. I know it is an aberration - one of my closest friends is a vegan married dyke who voted for Kucinich, and she's capable of having a discussion about my hero W without cursing or insulting me - but how about some of you folks grow up!
TexinExile
By inserting ourselves in(and making an ally of)Iraq,
Sounds like our Shiite "allies" really love us.
Oh, and Iran is also Shiite, you cowardly anon. idiot.
Posted by rlp at January 7, 2006 02:53 PMFun seeing AQ playing Bush like a violin? You are not really very popular with the ladies htere, are you? Or anyone else for that matter...What a tool.
Posted by nikko at January 7, 2006 02:57 PMThanks, rlp, for underlining my point. Cowardly anon. idiot? What the heck is rlp? A courageous revealing of your identity?
Posted by mike at January 7, 2006 02:58 PMFounding Fathers: Radical Right Wingers
Posted by nikko at January 7, 2006 02:58 PMI love the use of quotes from DWMs who wouldn't be so popular here if the topic being discussed was, say, racism or sexism. Jefferson owned slaves, remember? I mean, doesn't that discredit everything he ever said? Oh - I misquoted the Ivy Leaguer Anjha above - "Fuck you", not "Fuck off"
Posted by mike at January 7, 2006 03:05 PMShow your support for the troops!
Posted by richard mcenroe at January 7, 2006 03:34 PMrip,
That all you got? A link and a demographic obsevation? Shrewd debating skills there.
Pitiful...
I'd be happy to tell it to Murtha's face. Yeah, he fought, but so did I. I was active for 9 years and still actively serve in the Guard. To call Murtha a "37 year Marine" is total bullshit. He was active for 4 and inactive for 33. Show me where the line starts to get in his face (actually it's been done: http://michellemalkin.com/).
"Marine Jack" is so far outta touch with today's military it's fucking hilarious. And your joy with AQ's statements is fucking criminal. And when did you ever fight for anything? Punk.
I only wish the entire population of America could see your drivel. It would guarantee a GOP majority for my lifetime.
Now you fuck off. Ass.
Posted by Ivan at January 7, 2006 04:39 PMLee,
The link says all that needs to be said to those who understand the significance of the demographoisc. And even if it didn't, it's more than your troll ass has done.
mike,
In this case rlp means Rightwingers Lie Profusely.
Posted by rlp at January 7, 2006 04:43 PMnikko,
Actually, being against the monarchy would make the founding fathers radical leftwingers by the standards of today. However, it is true that the right/left division doesn't really apply as well to events that happened before 1789 in France.
Posted by rlp at January 7, 2006 04:49 PMIt is distressing to see the liberals so unhinged that they associate with what Al Queda says, say the same things, and find them "fun."
As for the comment about telling Murtha to his fact that his defeat and retreat argument is wrong, it is true that a couple veterans confronted him at a recent liberal meeting and he just sat there like a confused old man without saying a word in response. See Malkim's blog.
Posted by brian at January 7, 2006 05:01 PMAnjha:
That's not actually a Jefferson quote. It's also a pretty stupid notion, something akin to "argument is the highest form of marriage."
Your Caeser quote is also fake. Melodramatic, but fake.
Here's a tip: just 'cause you saw it on the internet, doesn't mean it's true.
Murtha's wrong. When did distinguished military service become synonymous with infallibility?
Also, your political goals seem to mirror those of a group of bloodthirsty, theocratic fascists. Has this caused you to rethink any of your positions (even for a moment)? I know you think Bush=Hitler and all that, but I seem to have missed the video where Dick Cheney sawed the head off a hostage while chanting "Halliburton is Great!"
BBTB:
We all know Bush is a moron, right? He talks funny and all.
How do you explain the fact that he's got a Harvard MBA? To quote Al Pacino as Tony Montana, "That ain't no cakewalk." Or did his daddy take his tests for him?
A more reliable indicator of intelligence is sense of humor. By that indicator, Kerry, Gore, Sheehan, you and your friends rank somewhere between Carrot Top and Gallagher.
Steve:
Right on with that notion it's great that al Qaeda is putting one over on Bush. I love that. I wonder if they'll celebrate by sawing the head off another hostage? Maybe they'll just blow up a few more Shite families. Or hit some Marines with an IED. Those al Qaeda guys are just crazy! You never know what they'll come up with next.
As long as they're slamming Bush in the news, though, they're a-ok with me.
Keep up the good work Steve!
Oh, yeah -- let's keep supporting our troops (as long as they don't actually WIN over there).
Posted by Phred at January 7, 2006 05:27 PMrip,
It didn't, and it's not. Plus I'm not real impressed with your grasp of demographics. While Iranians are Shiite, they are hardly allies of Iraqis. Plus, I never mentioned anything about love, I was speaking of "allies", as in our military is working with thier military. Find a dictionary if you still find the concept too confusing.(Thats a "book" with the definitions of words in it.)
I'm still confused myself. Why do you retards support AQ when they would cheerfully shoot your ass for being an infidel after torturing you for being gay?
The neo-cons haven't changed a bit. They watch so much Hannoi-Hannity and O'Reiffly that they think if they type loud enough and say stupid shit we'll all pay attention and just shut up.
By inserting ourselves in(and making an ally of)Iraq
You write jokes professionally, right? It must be tough living on your income.
Undoubtedly they consider themselves more intelligent than mere conservatives
Duh! If it weren't for liberals you wouldn't have all the effective killing machines at your disposal. You neo-cons are always 2 IQ points short of tard status. That's why it's so tough for you to get through collitch. That's why you can't build shit of value. Just destroy it.
It is distressing to see the liberals so unhinged that they associate with what Al Queda says, say the same things, and find them "fun."
Refer to the 2 IQ points thing above.
but I seem to have missed the video where Dick Cheney sawed the head off a hostage while chanting "Halliburton is Great!".
What about the kids in Abu Ghraib getting hammered in the ass as part of the interrogation technique? What about the film of schools, hospitals and homes hit by bombs? What about entire families shot "on accident?"
How do you explain the fact that he's got a Harvard MBA?
Called a gentlemans C. Daddy was CIA at the time, remember? How do you explain failing at every business venture he ever tried, having the lowest scores on the Air Force flight test ever recorded, and the gay affairs?
As long as they're slamming Bush in the news, though, they're a-ok with me.
Not a slam. It's something you can't deal with or understand. It's the truth!
I'll say it again:
Stop that lunatic fucking meme that the Founding Founders weren't confronted with terrorism, making the Constitution a mute point. The Founding Fathers had foreign troops on American soil who kicked doors in, took property without warrant, tried and executed without representation, killed Americans as traitors to the King, and made war. That's why we have the Constitution we have. You fucks are mere poseurs, and the Founding Fathers knew how to deal with your type of political perversion. Yes, indeed they did.
Phidipides,
Yes, you are obviously a man of incredible intelligence.sigh.
Plus I'm not real impressed with your grasp of demographics. While Iranians are Shiite, they are hardly allies of Iraqis.
Posted by lee at January 7, 2006 06:03 PM
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Can't say I'm real impressed with yours, either. Muslims place shared religious idealogy far above governments and borders. The primary reason for the Iraq-Iran war was Hussein's fear of a shiite uprising, fostered in no small part by Iran. This would have led to a shiite goovernment and yes, consequent alliance with Iran. As to your ridiculous statement about us supporting Al Queda, I doubt very seriously anyone supports them here. I think Steve Soto made a poor choice of words and wishes he could retract them. Leave it at that.
Anjha:
That's not actually a Jefferson quote. It's also a pretty stupid notion, something akin to "argument is the highest form of marriage." sez phred
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I've never seen it attributed to anyone else, so please, tell me whose quote it is. Your analogy as well is simply ridiculous. If the Founding Fathers did not dissent - then we would still be under British rule. So, dissent, indeed is Patriotic.
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Your Caeser quote is also fake. Melodramatic, but fake. sez phred
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Then please, source to the correct orator. If you are correct, with adequate proof, I will gladly change the source. However, the quote rings marvelously true for our our current conditions.
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Here's a tip: just 'cause you saw it on the internet, doesn't mean it's true. sez phred
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What, like the economy is doing well, and people support Bu$hCo?
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Murtha's wrong. When did distinguished military service become synonymous with infallibility? sez phred (boy does phred have a lot of bullshit to say...)
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I don't recall mentioning Murtha at all, but since you brought it up, I commend him very much for taking a stand and speaking his truth.
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Also, your political goals seem to mirror those of a group of bloodthirsty, theocratic fascists. Has this caused you to rethink any of your positions (even for a moment)? I know you think Bush=Hitler and all that, but I seem to have missed the video where Dick Cheney sawed the head off a hostage while chanting "Halliburton is Great!" posted by phred
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I am quite definately not at all for Theocracy. How you can determine my "political goals" seems odd, because all that I posted were three quotes.
My positions are that this administration has damaged our country's standing in this world, our financial condition and the freedoms of Americans beyond anything ever before.
Facism is the economical position that this administration has put our country in. Do some research.
As for Cheney, there would be no video of him doing any dirty work at all because a) he is a chicken-hawk and b) has minions to do his dirty work. He just chants "yea war" when he deposits his billions in off-shore accounts.
Oh, and before you attempt to dissect anything that I have to say, study some history. I think that you might find the parallels between the rise of Hitler and the rise of Bu$hCo quite frightening indeed.
Posted by Anjha at January 7, 2006 07:48 PMlee,
Do you know why most Iraqis are Shiite? Because the Iranians converted them in the 19th century. Before then they had been mostly Sunni. Look it up, it might be in one of those books called encylopedias that you seem proud to have knowledge of.
As for Al Qaeda, I supported the Afghanistan invasion, what I didn't support was turning attention to Iraq and letting the AQ leadership escape from the caves at Tora Bora. And I really don't care if you are impressed by my grasp of demographics, my employer has been for the last nine years and just gave me a big performance based bonus.
sf,
I'll defere to your superior knowledge of the Arab/Persian/Shiite mind. Not sure anyway what Iran has to do with the treasoness comments of this blogs author. I reject your speaking for him, and knowing HIS mind. I seriously doubt he wrote something he didn't really mean. This is where the escalating venom of your side is taking you. Please, get your prorities straight before you find yourself wearing a C-4 fanny pack.
Yes, you are obviously a man of incredible intelligence.
I try not to make it so noticeable. One must whip-out the intellect every once in a while, most especially when dealing with neo-cons. Honestly, the knuckle-draggers and white crackers force me to be so. I do stay away from multisyllabic constructions. You know, things like 'concomitant' and 'antecedent' and such. Confuses the fuck out of neo-cons. No, with them I stick to things they understand. Slapping the wife around and agreeing with anything Rush-the-Lush lies about. I'd even whip out a fart joke if I thought it would get their attention. Works better than skunky beer and cheesy lesbian porn on these gits.
treasoness comments of this blogs author
Wait till we get through with the neo-cons after mid-terms. Your chilluns will realize what you are. And they will curse you for it.
Posted by phidipides with more degrees than a thermometer at January 7, 2006 08:03 PMLee,
Steve Soto is a respected blogger and in almost all cases is reasoned and pragmatic, but he is human and sometimes makes mistakes. I realize you don't agree with our political views, but I speak with reasonable assurance, we don't support Al Queda, ok?
Posted by sf at January 7, 2006 08:07 PMYou imagine that people trying to murder Americans are playing your President 'like a violin' and the thought fills you with pleasure.
Maybe you don't out and out support Al Queda, but if you had to pick between ridding the world of Al Queda or ridding the world of Bush, you'd pick Bush in a heartbeat.
Posted by Delphi999 at January 7, 2006 09:07 PMAnjha - that Caesar quote is bogus. It's the same stupid quote Barbara Streisand used in some idiotic speech she gave a couple of years back. The great man never said it. But the fact that you still attribute it to him speaks volumes.
Posted by barbara s at January 7, 2006 09:28 PMMaybe you don't out and out support Al Queda, but if you had to pick between ridding the world of Al Queda or ridding the world of Bush, you'd pick Bush in a heartbeat.
Posted by Delphi999 at January 7, 2006 09:07 PM
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I think you're categorically wrong about that. I see Al Queda as a foreign enemy and Bush as a very poor president with poor domestic and international skills. Please don't parse the argument. The framing of your poin
Posted by sf at January 7, 2006 09:30 PMSorry, I'm on laptop and lost my last sentence. Your framing of your point was ridiculous and another cheap attempt to flame the discourse.
Posted by sf at January 7, 2006 09:34 PMwell Barbara & phred, you are perfectly correct.
After being accused of being "unpatriotic" I was researching things said in the past regarding patriotism. This was one of the things that I ran across and I thought that it explained the current events more perfectly than any other. Interesting that it popped up in Dec 2001 while dur leedur was drumming the beat of war, apropos. Seems many people were looking to give voice to the fears of what would come to pass if Bu$hCo got his way.
Regardless of the origin, false or not, I completely support the message because I have seen it come to pass over these last few years.
I think the blind who continue to follow this preznit into illegal war and chant it as a patriotic duty, while having it proven again and again that he is incompetent and corrupt "speaks volumes."
Posted by Anjha at January 7, 2006 10:00 PMphidipides,
you do a marvoulous job making it unnoticable.
sf,
I appreciate your admission that the offensive post was wrong. Honestly, I respect you for saying it. The guy that posted it should be so regretful. I still doubt he is.
We definatly disagree on W, I man I admire immensely. I believe that is something we can agree to disagree about, just as the inverse was undoubtably true with regards to the last president. But for the life of me, as I have said in a few posts above, I can't understand why you libs, with your femminists and gay rights activists, aren't in the front of the pack beating back the Islamists. I don't know if you read Mark Steyn's piece from the Wall Street Journal, "It's the Demography, Stupid", but if not, you should.
lat
Lee,
I agree with many of your comments. Personally, I don't support feminists or gay rights activists, because I believe most, if not, all of their problems have been addressed. I agree with you about islam-facists. We can agree to disagree about Bush. I can't pretend to speak for everyone here, but I have read most of Steve Soto's posts and he is a good American. Same as you.
"I sincerely wish we could see our government so secured as to depend less on the character of the person in whose hands it is trusted. Bad men will sometimes get in and with such an immense patronage may make great progress in corrupting the public mind and principles. This is a subject with which wisdom and patriotism should be occupied." --Thomas Jefferson to Moses
Robinson, 1801. from here
When summarized, states, dissent is patriotic and when there is a dumb ass in the office of the president, he must be removed.
"Elective government is...the best permanent corrective of the errors or abuses of those entrusted with power." --Thomas Jefferson: Reply to Address, 1801.
And thank gawd there are only a few months left for this to come to pass.
Posted by Anjha at January 7, 2006 10:52 PMSuggested edit to clarify remark:
I have to admit it is IRONIC AND, PERHAPS, GRIMLY AMUSING to see Al Qaeda play Bush like a violin."
I caught that it was fun out of irony that George Bush, who has based much of his political career as president as the head fighter of terrorists, was being stood up to by a supposedly weak and disorganized enemy, but I can understand the confusion. I winced reading it the first time, knowing what was coming next.
Posted by DukeRevolution at January 8, 2006 03:40 AMSo, lemme get this straight:
Al Quaeda--good
Bushilter McChimpy Haliburton--bad
Terrorism--o.k.
Spreading Democracy--Facism
Enslaving Females--good in middle east
Liberating Females--bad in middle east
I could go on forever here. Some people seem to live in Bizarro World.
We've lived in Bizarro World scince January 20, 2001.
Posted by rlp-Rightwingers Lie Profusely at January 8, 2006 07:58 AMPraise be to Piggy Allah. Please continue to tell lies about your troops. Allah be praised, we could not ask for better propaganda to fuel our nursery burning fellow Muslims.
Posted by Demohomocraps at January 8, 2006 10:28 PMI hope Al Qaeda plays YOU like a violin, and maybe targets your house. My best friend lost 10 close friends in 9/11.
Maybe if the happy-go-lucky terrorists attack you or your family, you'll understand the reality of the situation. But hey, I'm just a crazy American-loving secularist who left the left because of America haters like you.
Gotta love those goofy Al Qaeda, don't you? They're just silly little "freedom fighters"
T
"fun to see Al Qaeda play bush like a violin"
FUN!!!?
Posted by E at January 11, 2006 12:42 PM