How utterly...
...unsurprising.
Posted by God Of War at January 30, 2006 01:05 PMThey actually needed a study to figure that out?
Posted by metricpenny at January 30, 2006 01:06 PMHere's a link to an implicit association test I took myself a while back. Results can be interesting--there are tests for race, religion, and lots more. Take a few and see how you fare. You might be surprised. The test warns that we all have biases. It's what you do with them that really matters.
Posted by CG at January 30, 2006 01:08 PMThey needed a study to quantify it in terms that can be used for more than hearsay and bloggers noticing that an inordinate number of racists and thugs hang out on the right.
Of course, according to Stephen Colbert, "It used to be everyone was entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. But that's not the case anymore. Facts matter not at all."
By that reasoning, liberals will have been more racist by next week.
Posted by idiosynchronic at January 30, 2006 01:25 PMIt's a shame the study was limited just to conservatives' prejudices against black people.
Can anyone doubt the results would be the same with latino, asian and arab faces?
Another feather in the cap of the noble GOP.
Instead of trying to moderate the racial prejudice of their conservative white suporters, the GOP manipulates it.
Posted by euzoius at January 30, 2006 01:26 PMmy god, this is supposed to be news? Steve, I'm sure you have more valuable topics to take up your writing time than something that is better known than water is wet.
Posted by T2 at January 30, 2006 01:31 PMGod Bless Samual Alito and may he have a long life.
Peace to all.
Posted by Roof at January 30, 2006 01:32 PMNo surprise to me, I did not need a study to tell me that. What bothers me as a minority is seeing people like Ken Blackwell and other minorities supporting these people and running for office on their ticket, it makes me sick.
If I say I did not understand why they do it I would be lying. That topic is to complicated to discuss here, but all I can say is the term "Uncle Tom" comes to mind and as far as I am concerned well deserved.
Posted by TWR at January 30, 2006 01:33 PMCG,
Interesting site. I did the light skin / dark skin preference test. My result was little to no inate difference in preference for light or dark skinned people.
You guys should check it out.
Posted by snark at January 30, 2006 01:42 PMSnark, try the religion one. If I recall correctly, Christianity didn't fare too well with me, which is interesting because that would definitely be a new bias that I developed as an adult, not as a child. I am Jewish and grew up with no biases against Christians as far as I know, and Christians are not portrayed as bad in the media and on the news the way blacks/arabs/latinos sometimes are.
Posted by CG at January 30, 2006 01:47 PMYou Broke Back Mountain liberals all think the same! The modern Nazi...uh, Republi-con party is not predjudiced. Nor do we stereotype. So you limp-wristed BBM liberals can stop trying to turn America into a nation of panzies, what with your lisps and gay marriage and all of that stuff.
And, by God, when we finish nuking...uh, democratizing the Towel-Heads...uh, our little brown brothers in Iraq, you'll have to sing another tune then, won't cha?
And you look at how many negro folks the Fuhrer...uh, President has had in his administration! Proof that competence does not bar any from being accepted into the administration. And God knows, what with your looney liberal BBM equal opportunity stuff, there is plenty of incompetence to spread around when these incompetent nigg....Just like you damn liberals to try and change the subject!!
You BBM liberals need to stop supporting Al Qaeda and support America! Can't you just think for yourself?
I will close by saying, Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!....uh, I mean God Bless America from a real American.
Posted by phidipides as a neo-con wheezing to life at January 30, 2006 02:20 PMStudy Finds that Men, Women Have Different Priorities
Posted by dj moonbat at January 30, 2006 02:40 PMBush appeals to the basest instincts in people.
Not very 'appealing' for a supposed 'leader'.
Nixon's "Southern Strategy" set the game in play, which showed its potential promise previously in the '64 Goldwater debacle, where there was clear movement in a handful of Southern states to the Repubs. Only the wilfully purblind can deny that the Repub stranglehold in the formerly Democratic South is race-based, with a little of that ol'-time religion tossed in.
Posted by barrisj at January 30, 2006 02:47 PMSharon, you're exactly right; it is no accident, either. They send out messages that are calculated to tweak the lizard brains of their minions, they've spent 30 years perfecting the message. What seems surprising is how easy it was to fool all those people, but a huge terrorist attack is a surefire way to flip that switch in the heads of the great unwashed. I wonder if it can ever be flipped back.
Posted by iamcoyote at January 30, 2006 03:14 PMSo there's another "Sharon" here.
I'll go by SwearSharonFormerlySharon (SSFS) then, since that's about my favorite hobby anyway. I like F words
I thought we had a chance. However, now we know where the spines are. Make note and get even. There will be a next time.
Posted by california_reality_check at January 30, 2006 03:19 PMI have long believed that the core, fundamental value of the RebliConTarian Party member, not the elite corportists who own the party, but the man in the street voter, is racism.
Time after time, I have seen these people vote against their basic interests because they don't want to see minorities receive any benefit.
Liars figure and figures lie.... where are the actual results....
Your own liberal political bias allows you to assume the truth without any factual detailed analysis. Which I would love to see.
"The analysis found that substantial majorities of Americans, liberals and conservatives, found it more difficult to associate black faces with positive concepts than white faces -- evidence of implicit bias."
Like most polls, the weighted sampling plays an important part.... a few of these facts might actually skew the results.. not the least of which is the "online" approach which is never been deemed to be scientific.
I'm not saying that Republicans don't have a greater degree of prejudice against blacks, I have many prejudices, and race, sex, national origin, and most important one's political affliation are most definitely some of mine. I'd rather my daugher date a black, professional, republican "thinker", than a white, liberal fanatic, driving around in a VW bus. Prejudicial biases are not inherently evil. Sometimes they even can be good. . . .
But assuming "this particular prejudice" is bad, then I must remind you that SUBSTANTIAL MAJORITIES OF LIBERALS are also prejudice against Blacks too.
And finally, the way you guys fell right into the trap of this article is psychologically interesting.
You all hooped and hollared as if you knew you were right all along. You were high fiving each other. . . .
But the article also said this, (which sounds exactly like you libs on this website when evidence of your parties' hypocracys are pointed out.)
"When presented with negative information about the candidates they liked, partisans of all stripes found ways to discount it, Westen said. i.e. KERRY FLIP/FLOPPING; CLINTON LIES; ANTI-AMERICAN BIAS; ANTI-SOLDIER; When the unpalatable information was rejected, furthermore, the brain scans showed that volunteers gave themselves feel-good pats -- the scans showed that "reward centers" in volunteers' brains were activated. The psychologist observed that the way these subjects dealt with unwelcome information had curious parallels with drug addiction as addicts also reward themselves for wrong-headed behavior."
Liars figure and figures lie.... where are the actual results....
That study found that supporters of President Bush and other conservatives had stronger self-admitted and implicit biases against blacks than liberals did.
...but districts that registered higher levels of bias systematically produced more votes for Bush.
Volunteers shown visual images of blacks in contexts that implied they were getting welfare benefits were far more receptive to Republican political ads decrying government waste than volunteers shown ads with the same message but without images of black people.
"We have 50 years of evidence that racial prejudice predicts voting. Republicans are supported by whites with prejudice against blacks. If people say, 'This takes me aback,' they are ignoring a huge volume of research."
Read that last sentence, spunky. How's your abackedness doing?
Say, did you tell your kids about Newtie yet?
Posted by phidipides at January 30, 2006 04:59 PMFor the record, a lifelong Republican who voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 tipped me on this article this morning. He has his own reasons for doing so.
Posted by rlp at January 30, 2006 05:25 PMI'm putting this here because I think racism is a product of ignorance (and willful stupidity.)
Polls Show Many Americans are Simply Dumber Than Bush
And if you ain't scrollin' past when you notice a troll, you see the truth as expressed in the article.
Shorter Carpe Diem: (stamps foot, pouts and petulantly whines) "You meany liberals should not say bad things bout us Republicans."
BAAAA, BAAAAA
Posted by j swift at January 30, 2006 06:34 PMAs liberals are associated by the self-appointed white superior beings with minorities, anyone who isn't already a WASP Republican will automatically be a second-class citizen - at least while we still hold citizenship.
Under the Patriot Act, why would King George allow us to continue to hold that privilege? How easy it would be to establish the American apartheit by requiring that citizenship be limited to those already holding GOP registration. Anyone who changes after the royal decree could only become at best an associate member. Everyone else would be fair game for the Bu$hCo Youth to practice their violent video game moves for real.
Posted by pessimist at January 30, 2006 07:05 PMpessimist,
Do not forget that the larger picture here is social dominance. Racism is a component of the fear mongering and that is a component of the social control that the Republicans are really after.
They have the sheep all rounded up and bleating on cue, now they have to go after the independent thinkers in this country.
Frankly, I think the Repubican impulse to be control freaks is purely a human impulse, not a pretty one but...human....you know right up with teenage jocks brutalizing weaker kids up the ass with foreign objects.
Posted by j swift at January 30, 2006 07:33 PMYou guys are becoming more amusing every day.
There have been a few occasions in the last year when I worried that the Dem's might actually fare very well this year - but then I read nonsense like this and I realize that my worries are totally unfounded. You still don't get it and probably never will.
BTW, if we conservatives are so biased against blacks then how in the world can we support people like Condi Rice and Collin Powell.
Of course we're also meth addicts according to an article on here last week.
Yeah, that's a winning strategy for winning elections.
LOL!!!!
Posted by David at January 30, 2006 07:44 PMI'd rather my daugher date a black, professional, republican "thinker", than a white, liberal fanatic, driving around in a VW bus.
I'd rather have your daughter date a tatooed skinhead who really likes you instead.
Posted by bbtb at January 30, 2006 08:07 PMNo, No, No David you misapprehend. Since we are gossiping about general weaknesses, I would say liberals have more problems with drugs (except maybe booze)and sex. Cons have their issues with money and power.
There I tried to smooth over those ruffled feathers you tried to cover up with the disingenuous obtuseness.
Feel better now?
Posted by j swift at January 30, 2006 08:07 PMPeople all do have their own biases. But I think the root of the problem comes at a deeper level: how well can you emphasize with the other person? Or how easily can you see yourself in the shoes of that other person? When we look for reasons to see only the bad in someone else, we are usually looking for reasons to believe we are better than that person.
But on the other hand, if we can see ourselves in the other person's shoes, we might not necessarily like what they are doing, but we aren't as inclined to believe that it shows that they are losers and we're the winners. We know that in some circumstances, we could make the same decisions that that guy did. We also recognize our good fortune, and that it's not because we are better than that other guy - but because we had parents who were better off, or loved us, or a teacher that taught us how to think, or a sister that had problems who we loved despite the problems. We know that there are lots of reasons people make mistakes, and we think we should be part of those who try to help people who are hurting, rather than piling on when they run into problems.
Posted by Mary at January 30, 2006 11:54 PMMy feathers aren't "ruffled". Personally I'm thrilled that liberals continue to focus on the pre-conceived views of conservatives. It means they are spending no time on formulating a winning strategy.
Posted by David at January 31, 2006 03:41 AMYou are the blind trying to lead the blind by telling everyone that you're not blind, that only Repubicans are.
I've made numerous comments about biases and prejudices. I have from the very beginning. My attempts were to find them, expose them to the truth and then to discuss them, whether they were democractic or republican biases. Instead, you all seem so self-absorbed, as the article indicated "The psychologist observed that the way these subjects dealt with unwelcome information had curious parallels with drug addiction as addicts also reward themselves for wrong-headed behavior."
I was ready to talk about our BIASES equally, but I was shunned.
As to prejudices, again the article said a MAJORITY of liberals were prejudice TOO. Thats called selectively learning on your part.
Hells bells I know many blacks that are PREJUDICE against blacks. I have over 75 black clients and many have said that they came to me because I was white. A few say they don't trust their own kind for various reasons.
Reminds me of the story Jessie Jackson has said, prmarily to black audiences, about walking down a lonely dark city street at night and he heard footsteps behind him. He got nervous and then, he turned and looked and saw a white guy. He then expressed a sigh of relief....
He did this to point out that black on black crime is so rampant, even blacks fear other blacks more than they do whites, and that it was unfortunate that blacks were killing blacks.
I guess Jessie is a racist, a bigot, and is prejudice too.
Carp, you know we are all racist and bigoted on some level, some of us are just prouder of it than others, some of us make excuses, some us deny that we are, and in a perfect world we would all recognize that we are, that it is immoral and would work all the time to not be so bigoted. However, that is an impossible standard to live up to.
But you see you the issue is not that humans are bigoted, the issue is that Republicans have and continue to use it to keep power. Just one more example of the high moral standards and accountability of the Republican party.
OK, this should work in reverse too. You attach a black, hispanic or asian face to a Republican message in a 'red state' and the message suddenly becomes unpalatable to racist whites?
A Mexican immigrant appears in a commercial in Arizona thanking Preznit Bush and the Republicans for giving him the chance to come to America and realize his dreams by doing work that lazy white people won't do?
I'm just throwing stuff out here...this racism thing is so hard to play. But...racist whites are so goddamn stupid. I know because I was raised by a bunch of them...Dumb as a sack of rocks.
Pious and superior aren't we?
I am bigoted, racist and prejudice. I will admit it.
I am bigoted against ignorant people, against criminals and against liberals who think they know so much more than me.
I'm a racist. I think that race is often a determining factor in high blood pressure, athletcism and mathematics.
I'm prejudice. I pre-judge people predicated upon my prior experiences. It requires some type of proof to dissaude me from maintaining my pre-concieved ideas.
I'm also a culturist. I believe very strongly that some cultures are SUPERIOR to others. I feel cultures that encourage strong family ties, two parent families, sexually responsible behavoir, encouragement of education and hard work, encouragement of invidiual responsiblity and self reliance, encouragement in seeing the good in this world instead of cursing the darkness.....
I'm also a realist. Which means I don't deny the facts merely because they are not politically correct...for instance, Criminals typically identify with the Democratic Party...thats why you want them to have the right to vote....
… assume the truth without any factual detailed analysis…. ... Westen said. i.e. KERRY FLIP/FLOPPING; CLINTON LIES; … Posted by CarpediemEvery time you make a statement of supposed fact, it turns out not to be true. As for your silly cap lock list, it, too, is nonsensical in that it ignores Bush flipflops and bush lies.
…the root of the problem comes at a deeper level: how well can you emphasize with the other person? …Posted by MaryOne's empathy quotient is more important that one's intelligence quotient.
…I'm also a realist. Which means I don't deny the facts merely because they are not politically correct...for instance, Criminals typically identify with the Democratic Party...thats why you want them to have the right to vote.... Posted by CarpediemYou confirm being a white bigot, yet you demand respect for your opinions. You claim to be a realist, yet deny factual evidence contrary to your prejudices. You claim that criminals are democrats, yet few violent criminals vote whereas most corporate criminals vote Republican because they are Republican. Advocating a policy that restores civic duties, obligations, and privileges to people who have served their time is good policy that enables those individuals to re-integrate into society. Your assertion that criminals identify with the Democratic Party is another example of your McCarthyism. Posted by Mike at January 31, 2006 09:58 AM
People are willing to be 'led' by their leaders.
If leaders exhibit attitudes of fear, greed, non-intellectualism, etc., many will follow. The 'many' will include others in powerful positions throughout the society. Over time, the characteristics of the leader will become institutionalized.
Likewise, if leaders exhibit confidence, generosity, compassion, intellectualism, many will follow that lead.
American history bears this out. Look at where we've come to in five years with this 'leader'.
Posted by Sharon at February 1, 2006 04:35 AM