Comments: Tuesday Night Shorts - GOP Starts Breaking Ranks Over NSA Mess

Good post, but I think you're still being unnecessarily hard on the Dems. Much of what the Republicans have wrought they perpetrated in the dark shadow of 9/11. Yes, it's a Doonesbury joke, but it's also the truth.

The weight of their misdeeds and crimes is now bearing down on them and tearing them apart, as so many of your links above attest. Yes, the Dems need to focus on a message, but they don't need to do that now, or even this summer. They need to do it in the fall, when the Republicans will be almost paralyzed by their own duplicity, and the voters will actually be tuning in.

Be patient.

Posted by Beacon at February 8, 2006 12:31 AM

At what point did the majority of reporters, talking heads, and politicians merge into one big fat corporate whore, whose only concern is their next "date".

Scroll Past The Trolls (catchy phrase, wish I had thought of it)

Posted by TIKI AL at February 8, 2006 01:36 AM

I think you're still being unnecessarily hard on the Dems.

You like the opposition being made of warm marshmallow? You know King George does!

Much of what the Republicans have wrought they perpetrated in the dark shadow of 9/11.

With all of the evidence out there that - to be generous - Bu$hco took every advantage they could because of this tragedy, it is way past time to challenge them on everything. The truth may be out there, but it isn't going to be discovered waiting for George to share.

... the Dems need to focus on a message ...

That would be a first since they let Florida go with a whimper!

They need to do it in the fall, ...

And if we don't get on them about it now, 'fall' is all they will do!

I've been watching the media try to manouver Hillary or Obama up front as serious contenders to John McCain in 2008, which tells me that they aren't backing anyone the pupblic might support. It's all designed to screen what is really going on sub rosa. Whatever that is, I consider the possibilities too serious to continue playing nice and not demanding RU-486 the morning after while not making a single complaint.

Much better to prevent rather than cure, and the prevention of the complete subjugation of the US by the corporate-controlled interests is in the hands of Milquetoasts!

Posted by pessimist at February 8, 2006 02:07 AM

It looks like I'm not the only one who thinks as I've just written:

'It's time to play hardball' - Blanco rebukes Bush, challenges lawmakers

Posted by pessimist at February 8, 2006 02:09 AM

This is for Beacon and all the other DLC "Democrats" who feel the same way. GET OVER IT! The time to make a principled and specific stand is long past. The country is finally sensing buyers remorse about the Rove/Rumsfeld/Cheney administration's policies of nepotism, cronyism, corruption and kleptocracy.

Murtha's proposal makes sense and Democrats should be rallying behind him, not cowering on the sidelines and "waiting" for the Republicans to self-destruct. What we need to do is PUSH them. Now I don't know Beacon and can't judge his or her true motivation, but the idea that we just need to wait until the Fall is stupid! That trick has been tried for the last 14 years and we've lost ground on nearly every election. Only Bill Clinton's remarkable personal skills provided the SOLE exception to our steady decline.

Will Marshall is a Cheneying neocon, and Al From a vile back-stabber. The entire nest of DLC "advisors' have the same debilitating effect of Grimma on an otherwise healthy King Theoden. Enough with the fear and hesitation. The American people want leaders and they need them NOW, more than they've needed them in a very long time. Democrats have got to shout through the stifling fog of the corporate media and make people pay attention. The Republicans are very talented liars. They make all kinds of noises that would suggest they are breaking up, they have real moral concerns (HAH!) and they are about to crumble. then they line up to vote the party line EVERY damn time and Democrats sit around saying, "But, but?" It's time for the beltway Democrats to remember they have vertebrae!

Posted by DeminNewJ at February 8, 2006 03:38 AM

As a CT voter, I agree that Lieberman should logically switch to the Republican side of the Senate. However, you forget one thing - Lieberman is a gutless coward. If he switches to the (R) columns, then he will face a real challenge in this year's elections and he's afraid to do it. He's so sure of his positions and convictions and support among the CT electorate that he prefers to hide amid the thicket of CT election law and politics. If he really believed in anything other than just staying in office he would make the jump, but he doesn't. He is a prime example of the type of legislator who should be shown - nay, thrown - out the door of the Congress.

Posted by PrahaPartizan at February 8, 2006 04:20 AM

Gee, that's too bad about that wonderkin, George Deutsch. I was waiting for him to complain about NASA scientists talking about "gravity" without prepending the words "theory of". After all, you aren't actually telling all sides of the story unless you acknowledge that some believe the only reason we stick on the earth is because we all have little magnetics in our feet that keeps us on the ground. Otherwise we'd be floating off into space. And that theory has just as much right to be heard as that one Newton came up with. Geeze.

Posted by Mary at February 8, 2006 04:33 AM

Lieberman --- what do you expect? He is an Israeli before he is an American, and look who planned the Iraqinvasion, ----- Perle, Wolfowitz, Cristol et al, ---- PNAC/AIPAC, the proxy war for Israel.

Posted by maunga at February 8, 2006 06:33 AM

To imply American jews were behind the Iraq war is anti-semetic, shame, shame, (even if it is true).

Posted by TIKI AL at February 8, 2006 10:44 AM

And Mary, those theories have just as much right to be heard as the one the Existentialists came up with, i.e. that it is the weight of the sadness of human experience that prevents us from floating off into space.

Posted by Paul Lucic at February 8, 2006 12:05 PM

i think the "we did it for israel" angle is a red herring. as the lawyers say, cui bono? did israeli intelligence really think a toothless saddam was a greater existential threat than a fundamentalist iraq? OTOH, who would benefit from crippling the oil industry of the second largest oil producer? maybe the first largest, hmmm? if you disable avis rent-a-car, who benefits more than hertz?

i think israel went along with the clusterf*ck cause we pay them to.

Posted by benjoya at February 8, 2006 12:48 PM

You think there were descrepencies between exit poll predictions and the "official election results" in counties that used ES&S and Diebolt tabulation software in 2004? Just wait until the next round of e-counting. This corrupt accounting method will be more widespread accross the country and preferred candidates will benefit.

Why do these politicians seem not to care what the American public thinks? The electorate doesn't figure in anymore. The numbers of Americans that are awakening to the fact that elements within the highest levels of our government are responsible for the 911 atrocity are growing exponentially. The evidence is so compelling, once you break free of the MSM bullshit narrative.

Let's make it simple. Buildings that totally collapse at a free fall rate, fall with no resistance. Pretty straight forward right? Therefore the pancake theory of collapse that is central to the official narrative is false. The Laws of Physics relative to linear motion cannot be spun. Accept it. Deal with it.

The Republic has been taken over by a bunch of mass murderers who most likely destroyed the massive cores of WTC1 and WTC2 with a low yield hydrogen bomb planted in the sub basement. This explains the lack of bodies and office contents in the rubble. They were vaporized. The court jester hat explosive smoke signature rising from the top of the towers that is clearly visible at the beginning to the collapse is indistinguishable from that of a hydrogen nuclear detonation.

Posted by brisa at February 8, 2006 06:32 PM
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