I am so SICK of partisan leftists like this Whittington guy trying to damage the administration!

You can bet that Whittington is receiving the best and most intensive healthcare ever administered to a patient in the history of this nation.

As it turns out this is the first sitting Vice-President to ever shoot somebody. Burr was already out of office when his duel with Hamilton took place.

What will happen if Whittingon ends up dead? Negligent homicide at the least, right?
If this was a normal Joe...shit, we would still be sitting in the slammer.

Who is going to pay for his treatment?

Now, now, Dr. David Blanchard, chief of emergency care, said it was "a silent heart attack, an asymptomatic heart attack. He's not had a heart attack in the traditional sense."

Guess it was one of them new-fangled, non-traditional, non-heart attacks -- wonder if Cheney will have one of his own now?

I figure that the chances of a negligent homicide prosecution, against a sitting VP who is also a Texas big shot (even if he claims to live in Wyoming), is approximately nil. Right now, Whittington's family isn't raising a fuss, but if he were to die, I wouldn't be surprised to see a tort lawsuit.

This is so much a reflection of the entire last 5 years of hell. I hope Whittington hangs on.. we need him. The more people think about this whole event, the more people process all that the SCAB (Supreme Court Appointee Bush-Cheney) Admin has done to the US. The US is us and WE are in that hospital bed.

I guess those pellets really did break the skin.

Sincerely, I hope the guy recovers. Can't be a good thing for a 78 year old man to have foreign metal objects in his heart.

You bet your sweet bippy if he doesn't recover the word tort will be tatooed across Cheney's ass faster than muckdog can say "DOW 11,000!".

How the Hell does this pellet from a "peppering" get "lodged" in the man's heart? How the Hell close was he to Deadeye Dick? Two Feet?

And if it's so damn minor an injury, what is he doing in the ICU for three straight days? I don't believe anything about this story at this point.

The Texas doctors are lying about the severity of this injury to protect Cheney! This whole thing does not add up and the national press are completely inmpotent! Why aren't they camped out at the VP's DC offices demanding a GD press conference?

Why aren't they giving the doctors in Corpus Christi the third degree, given the nonsense these MDs are peddling for Deadeye?

This is turning from a national joke into (yet another) scandal.

euzoius,

You forget.

They act. And when they act they make their own reality.

Whittington's reality is secondary.

The general consensus among my coworkers is even if Whittington dies, no charges will be brought against Cheney.

Sincerely, I hope the guy recovers.

I don't give a tinker's damn. The guy is rich, and a staunch Republican. He hunted with Dick Cheney.

dj:

Play along here; let's hope he is fine and pulls through any surgery. But he is 78 years old and was pulling down big coin still, so the family has an interest should he not make it through this. And then there is this: did he have a life insurance policy?

If the poor guy passes away as a result of these injuries, aside from the claims the family might make by lawsuit (which would be hush-hush taken care of by the GOP big money people), what about the life insurance company? They may be asked to simply pay a claim and make this go away, but would a shareholder sit still for that?

bbtb, I was wondering the same thing. I'm placing my bets on some sudden hospital mishap to have happened if the guy dies, and some poor sucker scapegoat of a doctor to get hung out to dry for malpractice, because it was not Cheney's fault, of course. The doctor will take the fall, and Cheney will never be prosecuted. Then, this can become the focal point of an administration crusade for standardized testing of everyone in the medical profession, and health care "reform".

I'm just waiting for Cheney to speak, decry the liberal media for focusing on this, and tell everyone to remember that "liberals shoot Americans in the back every day"...

Bloodlust is so unbecoming.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a tort lawsuit.

And considering the Republican adversion to torts, Cheney will have a heart attack himself.

Or at least a hissy. Followed by a heart attack.

I think we're fooling ourselves though. Whittington and his estate will never sue another Republican, even for wrongful death or neglectful injury. They're all part of the club. It might cause undue concerns at the fundraisers. An offer of some respectable amount will be quietly soliticed or offered and we'll never see the amount in the light of day.

I'm just waiting for Cheney to speak, decry the liberal media for focusing on this, and tell everyone to remember that "liberals shoot Americans in the back every day"...

I've been wondering the same thing myself, when will Cheney speak?

Turn on Ed Schultz. He's railing these bastards who fucked over Hackett.

Kaleefornian raises and interesting procedural question. If this poor man dies will Cheney insist that the family sue the doctors in order to "prove" that he himself wasnt the cause of the death? Is it their fault because they didn't stop the "pellet" from "migrating" to the heart (wasn't it there originally from, you know, piercing the skin). How does this play with mr "tort law is evil?"

but I admit that I don't expect cheney to ever, ever, pay for this even in a minor sense of inconvenience.

aimai

i think cheney just needed to divert attention from the fact that scooter threw big time under the bus last week. even george allen thinks dick should be investigated.

in the times today, wyoming/harvard bag o'wind alan simpson says cheney's a "master hunter." why does he need a campagn contributor to gather the prey for him if he's such a freakin grizzly adams? (the dick and bag o'wind also fish together - apparently big time is a master baiter, as well. sorry about that.)

It's too bad Dickhead knows which end of the gun is which. He might have done us all a great favor. I'll bet he just guesses, and one day, the quails will be covered in Cheney yuck.

In case you guys haven't noticed, the Dow is up 146 points as I write this. Bad news for the "weak economy" theory of the Dems.

In case you guys haven't noticed, the Dow is up 146 points as I write this. Bad news for the "weak economy" theory of the Dems.

It'd be refreshing if they weren't so predictable.

Stats, where were you when it dropped over 200 pts. Oh yah, It go's up and down.

In case you guys haven't noticed, the Dow is up 146 points as I write this. Bad news for the "weak economy" theory of the Dems.
Posted by Stats at February 14, 2006 12:33 PM

*****

What the fuck does that have to do with anything? You ignorant piece of trash. There are all kinds of reasons why the Dow goes up or down, and one day of gains does not a solid economy make, nor does one day of losses indicate a shitty economy.

Your stats suck ass, Stats, you shit-slinging, uninformed, RNC talking-point spewing jackass.

BTW, for the record I don't give a rip about the Cheney Rambo episode. I'm more concerned with Dick's intentional outing of a CIA agent working on Iran WMD proliferation.

I think we're fooling ourselves though. Whittington and his estate will never sue another Republican, even for wrongful death or neglectful injury. They're all part of the club.

Republicans tend to take a much more positive view of tort suits when it's their turn to be plaintiffs. See Lott, Trent.

"Turn on Ed Schultz. He's railing these bastards who fucked over Hackett.

Posted by God Of War at February 14, 2006 12:20 PM "

Dog of Whine...did you hear the part where Hackett is being accused of abusing corpses?

One word needs to be inextricably tied to this story.
That word is coverup
Everyone hates a coverup.

Cheney shooting COVERUP
Shooting COVERUP
Whittington COVERUP
Hunting COVERUP
Accidental shooting COVERUP

repeat the mantra
COVERUP COVERUP COVERUP

Color me ignorant but wouldn't "shot" that went deep enough to affect the heart indicate the victim was closer than the 30 yds? Certainly puts into question the first statements that he was simply "peppered".

Republicans tend to take a much more positive view of tort suits when it's their turn to be plaintiffs. See Lott, Trent.

But Lott was getting fucked over. A manly Republican can't take that shit lying down. Before long, mid-level bureaucrats start having Viking fantasies of using you, the policyholder, their boss, as their plaything.

Whittington just got shot.

"Turn on Ed Schultz. He's railing these bastards who fucked over Hackett.

Posted by God Of War at February 14, 2006 12:20 PM "

Dog of Whine...did you hear the part where Hackett is being accused of abusing corpses?
Posted by dipshit at February 14, 2006 12:50 PM

*****

Yeah you nazi cowardly fuck, I heard that swiftboat bullshit. Part of Hackett's job was to clean up corpses in Fallujah in the aftermath of the battle there, and according to everyone involved, it was all done by the book.

Why do you hate our soldiers, you traitorous piece of shit? Why the fuck won't you do the world a favor and suck on a tailpipe?

But Lott was getting fucked over. A manly Republican can't take that shit lying down.

I'm going on rumor and innuendo but it's my understanding that they prefer to take it on all fours.

Ya know, all in all, I'd still rather hunt with Dick Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy.

Color me ignorant but wouldn't "shot" that went deep enough to affect the heart indicate the victim was closer than the 30 yds? Certainly puts into question the first statements that he was simply "peppered".
Posted by mainsailset at February 14, 2006 12:54 PM

*****

The bb could have (and probably did) traveled to his heart via the bloodstream, which would also indicate pretty deep penetration.

This guy got "peppered" by shot like Hiroshima got "peppered" by an atomic bomb if he's got shot coursing through his veins.

A little perspective here:

WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, Aug. 27) — The same day Hillary Clinton was scheduled to speak at the Democratic National Convention, newly released documents suggest she was behind the 30-hour delay in releasing late White House counsel Vincent Foster’s suicide note to authorities.

How the White House handled Foster’s 1993 death, and the possibility that administration officials improperly removed documents from his office or impeded an official search of it, has been the subject of intense scrutiny by congressional Republicans and the media.

The newly released memo, written by White House lawyer Miriam Nemetz, quotes then-White House chief of staff Mack McLarty as saying Mrs. Clinton “was very upset and believed the matter required further thought and the president should not yet be told” about Foster’s note.

According to the document, Mrs. Clinton “said they should have a coherent position and should have decided what to do before they told the president.”

That contradicts sworn testimony to the Senate Whitewater Committee from Clinton staffers that the first lady had no role whatsoever in the handling of Foster’s note.

Note to "God of War"-
You have a lot of nerve calling a total stranger an "ignorant piece of trash...." Who are you, anyway, some sphmore at some crummy state school? For your information, I have 25 years experience working in the real world, a seven figure annual income (compensation, not dividends or interest income), and I am a Vietnam War veteran. Don't like my "Republican talking points"? I guess the truth hurts, huh?

Ya know, all in all, I'd still rather hunt with Dick Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy.
Posted by dipshit at February 14, 2006 01:01 PM

*****

Still plagarizing, I see.

But Clinton.......

As I said. Predictable.

Color me ignorant but wouldn't "shot" that went deep enough to affect the heart indicate the victim was closer than the 30 yds?

All it had to do was be deep enough to get into a large enough blood vessel.

Certainly puts into question the first statements that he was simply "peppered".

Think of it in culinary terms. Like butterflying a nice beef roast, peppering the inside and trussing it back up again.

Note to "God of War"-
You have a lot of nerve calling a total stranger an "ignorant piece of trash...." Who are you, anyway, some sphmore at some crummy state school? For your information, I have 25 years experience working in the real world, a seven figure annual income (compensation, not dividends or interest income), and I am a Vietnam War veteran. Don't like my "Republican talking points"? I guess the truth hurts, huh?
Posted by at February 14, 2006 01:03 PM

*****

As far as I'm concerned, your a piece of shit, and a liar too.

Color me ignorant but wouldn't "shot" that went deep enough to affect the heart indicate the victim was closer than the 30 yds? Certainly puts into question the first statements that he was simply "peppered".

But...but...that would mean the White House is lying about what really happened!

Dipshit,

Is plagarism a hobby or a profession?

Vince Foster? Seriously, take advantage of the tailpipe option. You're fucking worthless.

For your information, I have 25 years experience working in the real world,

Let's have a round of applause everyone.

a seven figure annual income (compensation, not dividends or interest income),

Does that include the two decimal places or not?

and I am a Vietnam War veteran.

Oh...so you abused live people, not just corpses.

Don't like my "Republican talking points"?

Please more like the ones above.

I guess the truth hurts, huh?

Not as much as a face full of birdshot.

Posted by at February 14, 2006 01:03 PM

All those accomplishments and yet too embarassed to sign your comment.

"Vince Foster? Seriously, take advantage of the tailpipe option. You're fucking worthless"

Yes, Vince Foster. Why did the Gorillary wait 30 hours to release the suicide note?
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"According to the document, Mrs. Clinton “said they should have a coherent position and should have decided what to do before they told the president.”

Why the need for a "coherent message"?

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BTW...what are you accusing me of plagiarizing?

"Yeah you nazi cowardly fuck, I heard that swiftboat bullshit. Part of Hackett's job was to clean up corpses in Fallujah in the aftermath of the battle there, and according to everyone involved, it was all done by the book.

Why do you hate our soldiers, you traitorous piece of shit? Why the fuck won't you do the world a favor and suck on a tailpipe?"
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Oh, it was all done by the book, huh? Were you really there to see it?

Why, oh why do you suppose Schumer and Reid are throwing this "rising star' under the bus?

By all accounts, he was the new Dem Golden Boy. Think there may be any truth to the corpse abuse charges?

GOW, Please, stay on topic and scroll the troll. I know he makes your blood boil but leave it alone.

Snark has it right.

Won't be long now until Muckprick pops in with a Dowgasm.

Maybe he made enough money today to put towards his newfound advocacy for tossing slow learning kids out in the street in lieu of putting more resources towards the gifted ones.

Sorry for that foray into the shitstream.

Dipshit the baby killer just presents such easy pickin's.

I'll refrain from here on out.

I think Dipshit needs to be driving at the same intersection Laura Bush is.

Why, oh why do you suppose Schumer and Reid are throwing this "rising star' under the bus?

cause the dems want both the senate seat and mean jean's house seat. too complicated for you, i imagine.

"Yeah you nazi cowardly fuck, I heard that swiftboat bullshit. Part of Hackett's job was to clean up corpses in Fallujah in the aftermath of the battle there, and according to everyone involved, it was all done by the book.

Why do you hate our soldiers, you traitorous piece of shit? Why the fuck won't you do the world a favor and suck on a tailpipe?"

Hey..it's not me...or anyone on the right for that matter...that's making these charges. It's the Democrats doing it.

Why don't you ask them why they hate our soldiers ( I surely don't. I just spent the last eight hours with some.), or call them pieces of shit, or call them traitors, or ask them to suck on a tailpipe?

Hey, I'm just repeating what Democrats are saying.

Posted by God Of War at February 14, 2006 12:59 PM

The Bush White House continues to try and cover up the facts.

Scott McClellan knew of Whittington's heart attack hours before he conducted the daily briefing with the Washington Press Corps and he failed to mention it.

It's one cover up after another with this junta.

Meanwhile, the rightwing "spin" is this wasn't a "regular heart attack," suggesting there's nothing serious with Whittington's condition.

FACT CHECK: ALL HEART ATTACKS ARE SERIOUS.

FACT CHECK: ALL HEART ATTACKS MEAN A PART OF THE HEART MUSCLE HAS DIED.

I'm just wondering, if Whittington dies, will Dick "Fatty" Cheney claim Executive Privilege?

Me:(Dipshit)

Why, oh why do you suppose Schumer and Reid are throwing this "rising star' under the bus?
The reply: (anon)
cause the dems want both the senate seat and mean jean's house seat. too complicated for you, i imagine.

Posted by at February 14, 2006 01:30 PM
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There is no chance of that happening. Think, darn it!

Reid and Schumer probably knew already about Hackett in Iraq. Now some rogue - probably a Kos Klux Klansman - is letting the cat out of the bag to get back at the Dem establishment.

BTW...go look at Kos. It's strange. he used to be a HUGE Hackett supporter. Now he's just shrugging his shoulders at what happened. Where's the outrage from Kos.

Color me ignorant but wouldn't "shot" that went deep enough to affect the heart indicate the victim was closer than the 30 yds? Certainly puts into question the first statements that he was simply "peppered".

Damn right he was closer than 30 yds. The shot pattern was mostly his upper left torso including his face, it did show some around the chest. (Can't remember the website I saw that had the whole report.) If the pellets are even resting on or near the heart it will give off a rejection signal. And yes these pellets are small enough to go through some main arteries.
It must off knocked him on his ass. Not just peppered him. As Jon Stewart said, "Peppering is what you do to a salad".

Steve, u.jest is de-lurking over at Low and Left, is he the same anon pissant posting here?

now we know the reason the Cheney White House sought to cover this up. Who knows how bad the guy he shot really is, but until they were sure he wasn't going to die, they were going to cover it all up. Until the ranch lady blew the whistle. Lets just guess....what if the old guy had died straight up.....Do you think they would have just covered it up? I do. Just like on 24. Now lets just speculate what will happen if he dies as a result of Cheney's gunplay. No charges, that's what. Shot to death by the vice president of the US and nothing would happen. And Fitz thinks he's going to indict??? uh, no.

"Dipshit the baby killer'

Dipshit the baby killer??? Huh???

There is no chance of that happening.

clap harder, dipshit!

wasn't this thread about deadeye dick's victim?

i think deadeye dick was having a vietnam-era flashback. he thought wittington was an anti-war protester.

Current cnn headline:

Cheney hunt victim has heart scare

Heart scare? He had a friggin' heart ATTACK. That's pretty damn serious, but cnn is going to lowball it and call it a "scare."

Heart scare? He had a friggin' heart ATTACK. That's pretty damn serious, but cnn is going to lowball it and call it a "scare."

Shot in face = peppered;
Shotgun = pellet gun;
Minor injuries = ICU;
Stable condition = heart attack.

Says it all.

"Heart scare"? Goddamn Lib'rul media!!

They had to coin a new phrase to keep their rulers happy!

Good Christ.....

thats a good one moonbat!!

I'm confused. First reports were that he had received injuries to the side of his body, neck and face. Then today I hear that the shot was to the chest. What the hell is going on here.

GOW, it wasn't in the blood stream according to doctors.

Judith, It's a pattern spray from numerous pellets in a cartridge shell. In this case, a 28 gauge shotgun shell. It covers a large area, so the blast area was to the left side of his body (chest area), face, neck and shoulder.

Shotgun blast=peppered

The guy is already dead. Been dead the minute Dickhead shot him dead. It's a massive coverup. Everybody is lying. But Dick will get away with it. Next on the horizon, Laura will take out Bushy, the twins will off Dick, and everybody's fucked.

Next on the horizon, Laura will take out Bushy...

Hey, she's killed before; why not?

killed = unfortunate accident

The top two chambers of his heart were beating irregularly, setting off an artrial fibrillation episode. The muscle of the heart where the pellet is has become infected or irritated. They are hoping that the pellet will be incapsulated or walled off, presenting no further problems. At least that is the story as of right now. Stay tuned, it will change again by tomorrow.

[T]hat is the story as of right now. Stay tuned, it will change again by tomorrow.

Yes, by tomorrow his surgeons, doubtless trembling at the prospect of frivolous lawsuits, will accidentally have killed Whittington with their shaky hands. Problem solved.

Bbtb, thanks for making it clearer to me. I guess I was taken back by the doctor saying "he was shot in the chest", denoting a more frontal assault.

Above by me.

Y'all ever see the movie DAVE? Mr. Whittington will hold a press conference when they find a look-a=like.

Fuck you dipshit rethug nazi fucks my mind is streaming with light and there's righteous power in my fingers on the keyboard fuck you get outa here with you shit-slinging fuck RNC-talking point coming out of your ass degenerate subhuman moron I want to be the turnkey when we put you all in the camps before me and Popeye Le Pew start hanging you from lampposts from coast to coast.

Boy, there's something about colossal White House fuckups that really brings out the trollitude...

Just think: what if it had been deer season and not little quail time?

Whittington would've been pumped full of 22 bullets and not bird shot.

In other words, Cheney would've likely blown his buddy's head off his body.

I'm still betting a $20 that Cheney was drunk and didn't know a shadow from a sparrow.
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I find the oddest thing to be that "Dick-breath" had a golden opportunity to show an iota of compassion and perhaps buff up his "public star" but decides to play secret squirrel and now sits in the tank of hot water....makes you wonder what the Kenady County Sheriff will do if old money bags cashes in his chips...hard to explain case closed with all the question marks flying around and a body on the scene (albeit removed)...where is CSI when we need them?

I'm still betting a $20 that Cheney was drunk and didn't know a shadow from a sparrow.

I'm actually betting that Dick's heart medication, or another med that affects the heart med, is being adjusted, and at the time he was handling the gun he was distorted.

And/Or if it comes out what the VP takes, it'll be a bigger scandal in what it indictates he's hiding about his health condition.

Think I'm joking? My mother-in-law is on a med that turns her into a complete gibbering loon if she takes an ephedra-related product because she's got a cold or if something's in bloom.

dick'shooter'cheney is entrusted with winning two or more wars by the less than almighty u.s. taxpayer?
a side of barn has a better chance than a side of beef for dinner at the u.s. troops table...

Cheney's a hunter the same way Bush is a rancher.

gotta love the emphasis on "MINOR"

OK. I have the solution. Since you guys don't like Cheney, I think he should resign for personal health reasons and Bush should name McCain to replace him. Gret idea, don't you think? Who is going to vote against McCain for VP? Then McCain runs for president and carries 44 states. (Hilllary loses in New Hampshire (by 20 points, as in the recent poll), and also in Maine and New Jersey.

McCain/Jeb in 2008. McCain gets a year in and he ends up dying in office.
No thanks!

OK. I have the solution. Since you guys don't like Cheney, I think he should resign for personal health reasons and Bush should name McCain to replace him. Gret idea, don't you think?

Better still, Bushco could name his step-brother, former president Bill Clinton.

Great idea, don't you think?

nah, it's the gop that hates mccain. They don't like mixed race families. Appointing McCain would put an automatic Democrat in his seat. Rove would never allow that.Besides the GOP likes stupid. Look for someone like Cronyn to replace Cheney. Gotta keep that cronyism and corruption alive!

You gotta wonder if Mrs. Wittington also thought it was her husband's fault.

As for tax cuts--
The Senate voted 53-47 today (in a procedural vote to instruct House-Senate conferees on the pending tax legislation) in favor of extending for two more years, to 2010, the 15 percent tax rate on capital gains and dividends which are currently scheduled to expire in 2008. This is a big deal (see the Wall Street Journal front page) since it is now clear that the Senate will follow the House on extending the tax cuts in the final tax bill. Another defeat for the Democrats. I am predicting a compromise on the estate tax before the elections. I look for a five million dollar exemption and a sharp cut in the estate tax rate to 20 percent (from the current 46 percent). The billionaires won't like the outcome, but the Republican rank and file will be very happy.

a sharp cut in the estate tax rate to 20 percent (from the current 46 percent). The billionaires won't like the outcome,

no, why would they? idiot.

i know this is a shooter thread, but that was some of the most transparent trolling i've ever seen.

Bad news to many out here...old Harry will live. This was simply an accident. How many of you can admit to yourself that you are sad the poor guy didn't die just so a supposed political scandal could have more legs? If you feel that way get yourselves some help. There are too many true political differences to discuss to even consider making this an issue. Attitudes like many here will only lead to something like...President JEB Bush...President-elect Roomney...President McCain etc. Think before reacting.