Comments: Open Thread – Shooter's 18% Approval Edition

I'm sorry that this is off topic. However, in my two years of active combat as an F18 pilot (1990-1991), I have never seen or read anything resembling the carnage of the past three days in Iraq. 1300 dead. My God. It is beyond belief.

Posted by tempus at February 27, 2006 11:58 PM

Its not polite or humane to experience schandefreude, but I can't help myself. These Bu$hCo #@&%*** really do deserve their current troubles, multiplied by 10 or 20.

Posted by JimPortlandOR at February 28, 2006 12:03 AM

Dear President Bush, thank you for the peace and quiet you have brought to our house, via your brilliant implementation of the "no call" list.

Now, could you please bring some peace and quiet to Iraq, kill the port deal, and quit spying on us?

Posted by TIKI AL at February 28, 2006 01:55 AM

I wouldn't gush too much about Susan Collins. I watched her experience physical pleasure expounding verbatim the current GOP talking points at the convention and became convinced that she doesn't have a single working brain cell in her entire empty head.

As for Joe Mental - 'nuff said!

I'll withhold judgement on the other points pending further developments.

Posted by pessimist at February 28, 2006 02:43 AM

Guess it's time to start carpet bombing another Muslim country. That'll bring those of his idiot base who've wandered off the reservation back into the fold. Nothing gives the "pro-life" rethug base a woody more than the mass murder of innocent brown people.

That or crank up the terror alerts.

Paging OBL, please make your threats into the white courtesy phone.

Posted by ran at February 28, 2006 04:57 AM

Wait, didn't I see a headline last night for yet another AQ #3 caught in Iraq?

Posted by iamcoyote at February 28, 2006 05:35 AM

I'm sorry that this is off topic. However, in my two years of active combat as an F18 pilot (1990-1991), I have never seen or read anything resembling the carnage of the past three days in Iraq. 1300 dead. My God. It is beyond belief.
Posted by tempus at February 27, 2006 11:58 PM

*****

Well, there was that WWII thing, but I doubt you or I were around for that.

These fucking civil wars can sometimes be downright uncivil.

Posted by God Of War at February 28, 2006 05:39 AM

coyote, I saw that but it was a #2 man.

I forgot to add about that PDA meeting I went to on Sat.:
An elderly gentlemen asked where he could find more information about Diebold's fraud. I told him about Bradblog.com. Sure enough, on Monday there is a tape about Pima AZ, county election official having a conniption fit on Bradblog.com.

Posted by bbtb at February 28, 2006 05:47 AM

Shooter's 18% Approval Edition

Hahahahahahaha! Priceless!

Posted by Christopher at February 28, 2006 05:53 AM

It is all but slam dunk, isn't it? Doesn't the deal close Thursday? We can review and legislate all we want, but it all comes down day after tomorrow, I think. After that it will be too late, for these 21 ports, anyway.

Posted by Via at February 28, 2006 05:53 AM

Sorry to quibble about grammar but shouldn't that read;


...both GOP Senators Susan Collins and Joe Lieberman...

Posted by snark at February 28, 2006 06:05 AM

Make no mistake, this is good news.

But does it matter that much when we should be trying to defame all likely neo-con and neo-lib candidates by exposing their support for this fascist administration?

I mean, Bush is a dead duck and everyone knows it. Move on and make all his supporters in both parties look as bad as possibly by simply showing that they've helped him in every substantive thing he's done. Make all the bad guys look bad and promote the progressives as the solution, which they are.

What's the point of him being low in approval ratings if we can't exploit that to our advantage to change the country for the good?

Posted by Geoffrey Knobl at February 28, 2006 06:25 AM

The outcome of the DeLay election case could be huge. We could see DeLay tossed out in his gerrymandered district, the Court strike down the gerrymander, and several special elections based on the old districts a mere few months after the November elections.

Posted by dj moonbat at February 28, 2006 06:44 AM

Sen. Kay Bailey Felon, argh, I mean Hutchinson is still standing behind her fellow Texan on the Dubai port deal.

She loyality to Bushco is greater than to America.

Posted by Christopher at February 28, 2006 06:49 AM

I mean, Bush is a dead duck and everyone knows it.

Geoffrey, he may be a dead duck, but he still seems to get what he wants.

Posted by Judith at February 28, 2006 06:54 AM

As we come to the close of the 36th month of war in Iraq (and the 33rd month of mopping up operations) here’s where we stand;

2843 coalition fatalities in both Afghanistan and Iraq.

That is a mere 142 deaths less than the final total of 2985 fatalities as a result of the 9/11 attacks.

The legacy of George W. Bush.

Posted by snark at February 28, 2006 07:15 AM

Nero Jr. is not a dead duck at all, he is a wounded, crazed, alpha male hyena surrounded by his dangerous, thirst-crazed pack. There has been no real move by our "congress" to restrain him; quite the contrary.

Bushco's only way out of this bad public approval situation is through jingoistic patriotism and militarism---and don't think they aren't going to move in that direction. It's all KKKRover has, and he has got to use it.

You can talk about the beloved troops being "stretched thin" all you want---there's plenty of exciting new high tech destruction they can mete out to the swooning delight of our extemely militarist population. Obviously our "generals" will meekly comply with any order they are handed by the Emperor, as will the "congress".

I wouldn't want to be a peasant in a third world country with a Nero-declared "evil" regime keeping the lights and sewers running. Much of the world thinks WE are a dangerous out-of-control rogue nation. There are reasons for such opinions---they aren't irrational views.

Posted by euzoius at February 28, 2006 07:30 AM

In other polls:

the troops want to come home.

I though preznit said he was going to listen to the troops on the ground; not politicians in DC...guess he forgot.

Posted by Anjha at February 28, 2006 08:27 AM

He's not a dead duck only because he's just the front man for the corps.

Corporations really are the enemy because their loyalty is to themselves, not the nation, not the people, not the employees, not even the shareholders. It is the entity itself, and its continued legal existence that trumps everything else.

Offshore jobs, no problem. Declare bankruptcy and disinvest shareholders, if need be, done. Ford Pinto clients to save money, whoosh baby. [My bolds}

Because assembly-line machinery was already tooled when engineers found this defect, top Ford officials decided to manufacture the car anyway, exploding gas tank and all, even though Ford owned the patent on a much safer gas tank. Safety was not a major concern to Ford at the time of the development of the Pinto.

Don't ever forget that.

Posted by Duckman GR at February 28, 2006 08:32 AM

Duckman, I can never forget that. I owned a Pinto. Driving Highway 17 from the Santa Cruz Mts. to San Jose was a scary adventure. And to think, I gave up my dirt bike for that Pinto.

Anjha, Thanks for the reminder! I can't believe that after 3 tours of duty and stop loss measures a soldier would ever tire of seeing the ruins of Baghdad.
Time for the mercs to takeover.

Posted by bbtb at February 28, 2006 09:02 AM

Yeah, you were probably safer on the bike!

And remember the veneration and adulation Iaoccoca got when he was running Dodge and doing all those commercials? Didn't he seem like the kindly grandfather, tough but fair?

And all the while people were burned to death because of his decision?

Those corporations and the Free Marketeers, they solve everything, don't they.

Posted by Duckman GR at February 28, 2006 09:45 AM

GOW:

I hope you did not have to serve. Anyone who did came back a very different person, as my close friends told me. If you did, I hope you are alright. All the best.

Tempus

Posted by tempus at February 28, 2006 09:57 AM

So Anjha, what kind of brainwashing were these troops subjected to that 85% believe they are there because of Sadaam's involvement in 911?

Posted by TIKI AL at February 28, 2006 10:02 AM

Anjha, Thanks for the reminder! I can't believe that after 3 tours of duty and stop loss measures a soldier would ever tire of seeing the ruins of Baghdad.
Time for the mercs to takeover.


bbtb: we have both gone to hell and came back. I hope and pray that you are recovering from the nightmare. It has certainly taken a toll on me, and I'm sure on you. All the best,

tempus. P.S. one day we will sit down and have a beer together.

Posted by tempus at February 28, 2006 10:03 AM

So Anjha, what kind of brainwashing were these troops subjected to that 85% believe they are there because of Sadaam's involvement in 911?

Posted by TIKI AL at February 28, 2006 10:02 AM


See: The Hallibuton (Manchurian) Candidate

Posted by Anjha at February 28, 2006 10:09 AM

At least the Clippers radio rankings are up. Everyone else must be listening to Howard Stern on their Sirius Satellite radio XMAS present...

Posted by muckdog at February 28, 2006 11:04 AM

Duckman, I'd like to add the lawyer that brokered the 1.5 billion Chrysler bailout deal with the US Government is none other than Thomas Hale Boggs Jr of Patton-Boggs. Son of (former) House Majority Leader, Hale Boggs and Lindy Boggs who took over his congress seat.
Yes, the super lobbyist who represents both sides of the aisle.
His firm represents Health Care, Insurance, Tax Issues, International Trade and Bank Mergers (Milestone). Very powerful stuff.
An attorney for his firm, Robert Luskin, represents KKK Rove.
Strange bedfellows.

By the way, the Rude Pundit has a funny story about one of the grandchidren of the Congress folks. It wasn't the same one I knew but it could have been.

Posted by bbtb at February 28, 2006 11:11 AM

Iacoca was Chrysler, wasn't he?

bbtb, The Rude One's Mardi Gras story reminds me of my childhood in NOLA. Good times...

Posted by iamcoyote at February 28, 2006 12:34 PM

I'd like to add the lawyer that brokered the 1.5 billion Chrysler bailout deal with the US Government is none other than Thomas Hale Boggs Jr of Patton-Boggs. Son of (former) House Majority Leader, Hale Boggs and Lindy Boggs who took over his congress seat.

brother of cokie roberts, FWIW

Posted by at February 28, 2006 01:43 PM

That would be the Beltway Crowd through and through.

Posted by Duckman GR at February 28, 2006 01:57 PM

And they wonder why we stock up on foil.

Posted by Duckman GR at February 28, 2006 02:04 PM

Iacoca was Chrysler, wasn't he?

Yes.

Posted by Judith at February 28, 2006 03:55 PM

Iacocca was the project manager for the Mustang at Ford before he got invited to leave. He later ran Chrysler.

Posted by pessimist at February 28, 2006 05:40 PM
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