Comments: AP Has Video That Destroys Bush's Excuses About Katrina

Have any guitar players noticed that Bush is chording a G major chord, but he's one fret too far up the neck? I played it once, it sounds terrible.

Posted by EJ at March 1, 2006 02:52 PM

George W. Bush is a pathological liar.

He's lied his entire life and he's surrounded by people (mommy, daddy, wifey, et al) who act as his enablers.

Gee, I'm describing an addict.

Posted by Christopher at March 1, 2006 02:55 PM

EJ, I noticed that immediately when I saw that photo months ago. But as usual there's somebody there trying to fix it quick (retuning the guitar?) before the boy clown makes an ass of himself. Sorry fella, too late for that.

Posted by Oaklander at March 1, 2006 02:58 PM

that horrible chord has been described as the "George Bush Tetrachord" and there are no open strings - it's G# - C - F - Bb - Eb - A (with the pinky) - it sounds like shit, no doubt. and this from a captain beefheart/ornette coleman fan!

Posted by benjoya at March 1, 2006 03:16 PM

Note his comment in the ABC interview with Elizabeth Vargas yesterday,

But he said the first he realized that things were going wrong was when he saw teevee reporters interviewing people screaming for help.

There's so many things wrong with this, for one, he's getting his info, supposedly, from television news, and for another, he's lying through his ass.

We might want to point that out a bit.

Posted by Duckman GR at March 1, 2006 03:24 PM

The problem is the leakers in government, not the leaking levees. Sheesh, you bloggers.

Posted by Zappatero at March 1, 2006 03:29 PM

So what? Are you surprised? Is this revelation going to accomplish anything substantive? NOOOOOOooooo!

Posted by Mal Feasance at March 1, 2006 03:32 PM

Bush said he wanted to assure those "at the state level, that we are fully prepared..."
Yeah, "...prepared to blame your ass when things go wrong."
The buckshot and only the buckshot stops near the pretz and vp.

Posted by Sharon at March 1, 2006 03:47 PM

So what? Are you surprised? Is this revelation going to accomplish anything substantive? NOOOOOOooooo!

Never misunderestimate, Mal. I heard about a number of diehard Republicans giving up on their own party specifically because of the piss poor response to Katrina. This should add to those numbers.

Posted by ann at March 1, 2006 03:51 PM

So, anyone want to start a pool of where this leads the approval ratings? My bet is 29% ...

2nd thought: I'm also betting that alot of Bush locksteppers are going to tip over on this one and be really pissed that they have fallen for & excused the lies.

Who's more the fool, the fool himself or those who follow him?

Posted by mainsailset at March 1, 2006 04:06 PM

The morning before his CA swing he was speaking to an invitation group only in El Mirage, AZ.
I took part in my first protest ever that day.

Posted by bbtb at March 1, 2006 04:22 PM

This is a dark world that we live in. Everthing is "conspiracy"...everthing is wishing that it were so.....If we say it enough, we could imagine it as being so-If only the electorate was as smart...the world could be a peaceful place, with flowers, maybe with just the next election it could be so. Maybe we can win this one. Can we?

Posted by at March 1, 2006 04:26 PM

I do believe that there is an inverse mathematical relationship between the length of Mr.Soto's post(s) and the actual importance of the story.

But, hey, Fitzmas is (always) just around the corner!

Posted by Bagley at March 1, 2006 04:30 PM

If the video Briefing to Bush really was on the 29th, the briefing took place after the 17th St. Canal Wall had broken and the 9th Ward was under water.
See TPM's Timeline at:
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/katrina-timeline.php

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Excerpt from 29th

.# Shortly before 8:00 AM CDT: Storm surge sends water over the Industrial Canal. Soon afterwards, Army Corps of Engineers officials believe "a barge broke loose and crashed through the floodwall, opening a breach that accelerated flooding into the Lower Ninth Ward and St. Bernard Parish."

# 8:14 AM CDT: The National Weather Service New Orleans office issues a flash flood warning stating there had been a breach in the Industrial Canal levee with 3 to 8 feet of water expected in the 9th Ward and Arabi.

# Approx. 9:00 AM CDT: Eye of hurricane Katrina passes over city of New Orleans.

# Approx. 9:00 AM CDT: 6 to 8 feet of water covers New Orleans Lower 9th Ward.

Addendum: I can't find it right now but Coast guard noted Canal wall was broken open between 3 and 5 AM, several hours before the "Eye" hit New Orleans and before Bush’s briefing.
Bush has never told the truth on any topic or event of importance.
TJ

Posted by TJ at March 1, 2006 04:34 PM

bagley, this is a joke, right? One thing that real republicans claim to hate more than they hate liberals are incompetent, lying, politicians. Bush has been caught on tape, right after a very public and personal plea on the matter, lying about what he knew, when he knew it on the biggest cock up in american history. Jeebus H. Christ the british only burned the president's mansion when they came through last-no one, but no one-has ever lost an entire american city ON THE NIGHTLY NEWS. People are pissed off about that, whatever their political persuasion.

aimai

Posted by aimai at March 1, 2006 04:37 PM

All the news stories say this tape is from Sunday, the 28th.

Posted by Brian Boru at March 1, 2006 04:43 PM

"... but no one-has ever lost an entire american city ON THE NIGHTLY NEWS."

President Bush was responsible for Katrina and the failure of the levees? Oh my God, get help (you need it).

Posted by Bagley at March 1, 2006 04:54 PM

Powerlineblog.com would probably be the place you would need to go to analyze this "story". They have it pretty well fleshed out.

Posted by at March 1, 2006 05:28 PM

I do believe that there is an inverse mathematical relationship between the length of Mr.Soto's post(s) and the actual importance of the story.

But, hey, Fitzmas is (always) just around the corner!
Posted by Bagley at March 1, 2006 04:30 PM

*****

One pathetic, chickenshit motherfucker defending another.

Tell me, TeaBagley, were you born on your knees sucking lying GOP politician cock, or was that an acquired skill? It seems to come so naturally for you.

Posted by God Of War at March 1, 2006 05:28 PM

Powerlineblog.com would probably be the place you would need to go to analyze this "story". They have it pretty well fleshed out.
Posted by at March 1, 2006 05:28 PM

*****

If I was pathetic enough to cite to AssRocket's site, I wouldn't identify myself either.

You kool-aid drinking fucktards really ought to just suck on the business end of a 12 gauge and get it over with. Your lives are a waste of oxygen.

Posted by God Of War at March 1, 2006 05:33 PM

The teabagger knows no one has actually said that Bush is responsible for the storm, though, it appears that he may have been partly responsible for the lack of interest and funding needed many years in advance to strenthen the levees enough to weather the inevitable cat 5 storm. Yet, on cue, the 'bagger still feels the compulsion to trot out that canard just one more time to prove to his merciless overlords that he is their butt boy. It means nothing. Expect a bus soliloquy any moment now.

What this post and the video does show is that Bush did blow off the things he was responsible for, like taking the lead in mobilizing aid and equipment for the inevitable rescue efforts that were going to be needed in the aftermath of the storm he had just been assured would overwhelm the state's resouces. A good leader would at least call the pertinant agencies and expect a report on preparedness - remind people who was responsible for what, and lead the coordination efforts. He chose, instead, to go on vacation rather than become the leader and protector of Americans he has so often exhorted us to trust that he was. That tells us a lot about his character, I think, and coupled with the Port Deal scandal, the public is starting to become aware of how absent a leader he really has been. They are seeing the pattern we've been aware of since 2001.

Just now, the AP news break started with a clip from the briefing video where a guy is telling Bush about how bad the storm was going to be, then followed with Bush saying, we just weren't given enough intelligence on the ground - we got the bad news from the tv. He was so busted, that's as harsh a headline as I've ever heard about him since before 9-11. Tide is turning, folks.

Posted by iamcoyote at March 1, 2006 05:35 PM

iamcoyote,

"The teabagger knows no one has actually said that Bush is responsible for the storm..."

But the quote is

""... but no one-has ever lost an entire american city ON THE NIGHTLY NEWS."

Which leads me to believe that the poster does believe -- through implication -- the President was responsible for the storm (many on the Left believe this).

Regards,

Bagley

Posted by Bagley at March 1, 2006 05:47 PM

A good leader would at least call the pertinant agencies and expect a report on preparedness - remind people who was responsible for what, and lead the coordination efforts.

Posted by iamcoyote at March 1, 2006 05:35 PM

*****

That's ALL anyone would ever ask for from a President.

But no...Bush had to go fuck around with McCrazy McCain, strum, and piss around while Condi went shoe whorin' and Cheney went AWOL.

At least Brownie had a clue about the severity, and he's no genius.

Posted by God Of War at March 1, 2006 05:47 PM

Bush is pResident in title only. He has proven that time and time again.

Posted by Judith at March 1, 2006 05:55 PM

GoW, Brownie finally realized that Bush was leaving him high and dry (so to speak), holding the 'bag, if you'll pardon my pun. His sense of self-preservation kicked in and he squealed like a pig.

But it's funny when butt boys like 'bagger here will insist the argument is about whether Bush conjured the storm or not, they won't address the fact that, once again, Dear Leader was on vacation when his leadership was weighed, measured, and found wanting.

Posted by iamcoyote at March 1, 2006 05:55 PM

Unbelievable.

It reminds me of something that former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neil alluded to in his book; he gave Bush a briefing every week on the economy but he could never be sure if Bush was actually listening. I suspect Bush's reaction was more like, yeah, yeah, whatever.

A total incompetent who covers it up with fiction after fiction. I wonder how many Americans still trust Bush?

Posted by Craig at March 1, 2006 06:01 PM

"..butt boys like 'bagger here.."

Such an articulate and cogent form of argument. Your intellectual capacity amazes all who (bother) to read your prose.

GOW,

"... were you born on your knees sucking lying GOP politician cock...."

No, but I will not tell anyone about that bald spot on the crown of your scalp ;-)

Posted by Bagley at March 1, 2006 06:02 PM

former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neil alluded to in his book; he gave Bush a briefing every week on the economy but he could never be sure if Bush was actually listening. I suspect Bush's reaction was more like, yeah, yeah, whatever.


Most likely Bush was making more of his smirking facial expressions while daydreaming about...
...God only knows what.

Posted by herbal tee at March 1, 2006 06:11 PM

Which leads me to believe that the poster does believe -- through implication -- the President was responsible for the storm (many on the Left believe this).

Which leads me to believe that you don't value the import of the information you read. The failure to heed the warnings and therefore allowing through omission the city to be devistated and the people there to be endangered is the very point the commenter was making.

It was clear to me. What's your reading comprehension interference?

Posted by incontrolados at March 1, 2006 06:15 PM

"Which leads me to believe that you don't value the import of the information you read. The failure to heed the warnings and therefore allowing through omission the city to be devistated and the people there to be endangered is the very point the commenter was making"

You are speaking of Nagan and Blanco, I presume. Or is it your contention that municipal and state officials are immune from responsibility: recall the photograph of "Nagan's school buses." Or was the Federal Government supposed to provide the bus drivers?

"What's your reading comprehension interference?"

I am only able to ascertain what the poster is trying to convey from the words that are actually written.

Posted by Bagley at March 1, 2006 06:39 PM

Bush is so clueless he makes Brownie look good.

Posted by Christopher at March 1, 2006 06:48 PM

You are speaking of Nagan and Blanco, I presume.

Hmmm, no. I'm speaking of the point of the very post that I am commenting about.

Or is it your contention that municipal and state officials are immune from responsibility

No, It is not an "either/or" matter. If state and local officials relied upon federal assurances that were actually false, then there seems to be some room to doubt that all of the fault lies with the state and local officials.

I hope I made that clear enough to you so as to pre-empt any misunderstanding.

Posted by incontrolados at March 1, 2006 06:49 PM

"No, It is not an "either/or" matter. If state and local officials relied upon federal assurances that were actually false, then there seems to be some room to doubt that all of the fault lies with the state and local officials."

Please do define what assurances where made that were actually false.

"I hope I made that clear enough to you so as to pre-empt any misunderstanding."

Yes, thank you.

Posted by Bagley at March 1, 2006 06:54 PM

gow


Do you ever get your nose ring tangled with your tounge stud when you get mad?

Posted by at March 1, 2006 06:55 PM

I would refer you to the post, but in the spirit of leniency, I'll quote, "We are fully prepared." GWB

Posted by incontrolados at March 1, 2006 06:57 PM

Should we criticize Bush just because he didn't predict that this video would come out?
http://jonswift.blogspot.com/2006/03/soothsayer-in-chief.html

Posted by Jon Swift at March 1, 2006 06:57 PM

gow


Do you ever get your nose ring tangled with your tounge stud when you get mad?
Posted by at March 1, 2006 06:55 PM

*****

Do you ever post under a name, or are you just another GOP chickenshit pussy?

Wait...that's a rhetorical question. Don't bother to answer.

Posted by God Of War at March 1, 2006 06:59 PM

Cute-It is tangled-I can tell!!

Posted by at March 1, 2006 07:06 PM

Nice English! Educated?

Posted by at March 1, 2006 07:07 PM

"Do you ever get your nose ring tangled with your tounge stud when you get mad?"

He probably has his nose-ring tangled with his scrotum piercing.

Posted by Bagley at March 1, 2006 07:09 PM

Big Time was in some undisclosed location. The same people who ok'd the port deal must have been minding the store during Katrina.

Chris Matthews keeps asking his guests over and over, doesn't it seem like the President is off his game this term - wtf, he has never been on the game. Why doesn't someone just say it: he is incompetent this term just like he was incompetent last term just like he was incompetent in his business dealings and TANG....

Posted by Via at March 1, 2006 07:10 PM

GOPpussies, this may all be fun and games now...but hear this: If you illegitimate, America-hating fuckers try to yank my rights, I'll fucking hunt your asses down.

Just so we're clear, you fucking traitors: When your treason begins to affect my life, I'm coming for you, and you're fucking toast.

Are we clear on that? Good.

Now carry on with your stammering bullshit, while you can.

Posted by God Of War at March 1, 2006 07:15 PM

Bush was busy at that time breaking Reagan's record for vacation days. And it took Ronny all 8 years. The only thing Bush is good at, even if it doesn't including bicycling and talking at the same time.

Posted by Sharon at March 1, 2006 07:28 PM

"I'll fucking hunt your asses down."

Yadda, yadda, yadda...

Posted by Bagley at March 1, 2006 07:28 PM

Here's the White House link on when the White House acknowledged the storm, see the date in the upper right corner. Evidently bu$h cannot even follow through on his own orders.
Now Bagley, you were an officer, if you don't follow up on orders or checks to assure that your orders are followed through on, who's responsible?
bu$h answers to the people, Bagley.

I know you will make excuses for bu$h and let him off the obligation he has to the people of the USA and the constitution.

I would say that you're more intelligent than bu$h but since you continue to support him and make excuses for him, I can't see how that applies.

Posted by bbtb at March 1, 2006 07:44 PM

I would say that you're more intelligent than bu$h but since you continue to support him and make excuses for him, I can't see how that applies.

bbtb,

As a young progressive, I remember when the wheels fell off the wagon, os to speak, during the Carter administration. True, most of Carter's problems were not of his making, but he got saddled with them. At the time, I remember early on,hoping that the president would overcome his problems and only later did I get that sinking feeling that the door was being opened to Reagan and the other side.
That's what the right is going through now, however they're getting what they deserve.
To finish the point, some of them won't "get it" until a Democrat is in the White House in 2009 and maybe not then.

Posted by herbal tee at March 1, 2006 08:14 PM

.Yadda, yadda, yadda...

Pretty much sums up everything you ever posted.

Do you really believe any of that bullshit you spew?

I think you believe about half of it, but like playing the contrairien. If you have set out to be the resident troll, you have been hugely successfull.

Congrats, what an honor that must be for you.

Posted by SnarkyShark at March 1, 2006 08:20 PM

bbtb,

Popular Mechanics has bee one of my favorite publications since I was a teenager. You might want to read their take on Katrina before you have fully ingested the Leftist drivel, vis-a-vis the "fault" of the Bush Administration. The link:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/earth/2315076.html

"To finish the point, some of them won't 'get it' until a Democrat is in the White House in 2009 and maybe not then."

Not going to happen, unless you believe that Hillary can win the White House.

Posted by Bagley at March 1, 2006 08:20 PM

SnarkyShark,

Hey, buddy! How are you? How is my "veteran" friend, and "student of history?"

"If you have set out to be the resident troll, you have been hugely successfull. Congrats, what an honor that must be for you."

Thank you. I appreciate it!

But, I am not actually "a troll." I am here to educated and, perhaps, bring a different perspective to the discussion. If that fails, I am here to further prove to myself that the once great Democratic Party is dead.

Posted by Bagley at March 1, 2006 08:25 PM

Carter made some PR mistakes. He also had high interest rates and inflation to deal with. But he was honorable. Navy officer, Nuclear Physics was his specialty, I think.

Posted by bbtb at March 1, 2006 08:30 PM

It's amazing, even Bush has accepted responsibility (not that he really meant it but it was a gesture) for the failures of the federal government's response to Katrina but the trolls will not accept this fact. The federal government failed because BushCo folded FEMA into Homeland Security and installed an incompetent crony. When Clinton was in office, he never had to accept responsibility for FEMA failure because he had the intelligence that you don't appoint a horse show judge to run a disaster recovery department.

Posted by ann at March 1, 2006 08:40 PM

"But he was honorable."

Was.

Not any more.

Good night all.

Posted by Bagley at March 1, 2006 08:48 PM

night, Bagley

Posted by incontrolados at March 1, 2006 08:54 PM

I still remember the time he came out for that speech in Lexington Square(?). His shirt was buttoned wrong. I laughed my ass off.

Posted by bbtb at March 1, 2006 08:56 PM

I am here to educated and, perhaps, bring a different perspective to the discussion.

You even talk like president monkey.

Posted by SnarkyShark at March 1, 2006 09:11 PM

I do believe that there is an inverse mathematical relationship between the length of Mr.Soto's post(s) and the actual importance of the story.
Posted by Bagley at March 1, 2006 04:30 PM

Yet he keeps coming back for more? Perhaps he's a masochist? He seems to love a good beating. He likes it when we call him nasty names too, the nastier the better.

Posted by OffTheFence at March 1, 2006 09:17 PM

OffTheFence, We continually post links for Bagley and he ignores them. He goes tangential on us to evade the question. He never will admit that bu$hco has done anything wrong.
He's a joke.

Posted by at March 1, 2006 09:23 PM

I appreciate your timely suggestion that he's merely a joke. That implies that he possesses some cognive ability. I wrote the earlier post before B..... said, "Goodnight." Afterward, I began to imagine what a stupid masochist might do when he went to bed.

Thanks for helping me get rid of that picture before it was fully developed.

Posted by OttTheFence at March 1, 2006 09:39 PM

So what if I can't spell my name? I have other skills!

Posted by OffTheFence at March 1, 2006 09:44 PM

I never noticed, but he appears to be trying to play a Gsus2, except he is two frets up. Typical for George, the "little details" don't matter.

Posted by tempus at March 1, 2006 09:53 PM

Bagley originally wrote:

"I do believe that there is an inverse mathematical relationship between the length of Mr.Soto's post(s) and the actual importance of the story."

Now I know this was in jest, but I tend to wonder if you have anything to actually refute a blatant distortion of Bush's record of events occurring here. Either he knew or didn't know what was about to occur. As the AP tape makes abundantly clear, he damn well knew.

So are we going to continue running down asinine tangential roads, or shall we actually address the post at hand? Are you actually willing to bring forth an argument to this central point?

Posted by MisterOpus1 at March 1, 2006 10:23 PM

On NPR today I heard a NO resident state that many weren't returning to the city because they can't trust the govnt. to adequately fix the levies. How sad for them and all the others who suffered to find their accusations are confirmed.


We already knew it-mostly because we were watching TV or bothered to read a newspaper in the week before Katrina. But now the liars have been exposed with evidence that is undeniable.

Have you ever waited for someone to die, knowing that the end was near and prepared yourself for it? Then they die, and regardless of how prepared you thought you were, there was still that surge of emotional release and heartbreak at the news of their death.

Okay, maybe it's not quite that bad. But this evidence has left me feeling some similiar emotion. I must have had some unconscious hope that the negligence wasn't as intentional as it seemed.

Posted by OffTheFence at March 1, 2006 10:28 PM

Classic. Parse the words but miss what the actual story was about. Yeah that's Limbaugh linguistics.

Its like watching Buster Keaton being chased by a bear stopping to look for the quarter he lost.

Posted by Daryl at March 2, 2006 06:17 AM

I'd like to know where they got that video. From FEMA or Brown (enough scapegoating there!)? I can't believe the WH gave it to the AP.

Posted by jerry at March 2, 2006 06:52 AM

But, I am not actually "a troll." I am here to educated and, perhaps, bring a different perspective to the discussion. If that fails, I am here to further prove to myself that the once great Democratic Party is dead.

Posted by Bagley at March 1, 2006 08:25 PM

Can you explain what exactly you were trying to educate the readers here about when you posted your first comment in this comments thread?

I do believe that there is an inverse mathematical relationship between the length of Mr.Soto's post(s) and the actual importance of the story.

But, hey, Fitzmas is (always) just around the corner!

Posted by Bagley at March 1, 2006 04:30 PM

A non-sequitur about the length of the post? How exactly is that relevant to the point at hand?

And then it is followed by some sort of attempted snark about Fitzmas. What exactly has this got to do with the fact that Putsch lied about when he knew that New Orleans was sinking?

And how exactly could these sorts of comments educate the readers here about the topic at hand?

I'm sorry to say (but completely unsurprised) that I find no rational points to debate in your comment here. I can only conclude that it must have been intended to either deflect the subject, personally insult the author, or try and promote a willful ignorance of the topic at hand. And I think there's a word for people who post that type of comment. But I can't quite remember it. Maybe you could help me out? T-, Tr-, tro-... I'm sure it will come to me soon.

And, to add to the discussion about the actual topic of the post, it amazes me to see the furious backpedaling, obfuscation, and dissembling by the Putsch Fedayeen in their franctic attempts to hide the now indisputable fact that the Chimperor lied to the American people about his knowledge of the Katrina situation, his assurances (and the assurances of the FEMA agents he sloughed off his responsibilities to) to the local and state authorities that the feds were aware and ready to handle the NOLA situation, and the level of support that was given by the feds to the NOLA area. Their absolute fealty and zealous attacks on any who would dare to criticize the Illegally Installed Drunken Cokeheaded Usurper are beyond my comprehension.

I can't remember who, but somebody said that the Reich Wing would support these clowns even if they were caught red-handed in the act of shooting someone. I was never able to believe that these wrongwingnuts could lack empathy for their fellow humans, could truly believe that their boy could do nothing wrong, or could actually have a complete lack of a sense of morality. Until recently.

There's no use arguing with those who do not debate in a rational manner. The only thing that should be done from now on is to point out the gobs of kimchee that exude from their vacuous pie holes.

Oh, and God of War: if you ever need a point man, or someone to watch your six, let me know...

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