Sorry trolls.
No you're not. ;-)
Posted by SnarkyShark at March 2, 2006 04:29 PMAbraham Lincoln's numbers were not very good during a threatening time for the Union. He also had conviction.
Posted by at March 2, 2006 04:31 PMAbraham Lincoln's numbers were not very good during a threatening time for the Union. He also had conviction.
there's no time to list all the differences between honest abe and dear leader, but yes, conviction is a good place to start.
Posted by benjoya at March 2, 2006 04:37 PMDon't feel sorry for the trolls. The truth hasn't gotten into their rockheads yet so I doubt it'll start now.
Posted by Sharon at March 2, 2006 04:38 PM"We will not allow the Slave Holders that Still Prevail in this Country to Rule us any longer . . . The Administration is Criminal and if they will not step down, we must storm in, show them how many of us do not accept a criminal government."
This was posted on a Democratic web site advocating storming the White House. Feel good about that?
Posted by at March 2, 2006 04:41 PMUpdate on the White House storming!!
"The Political Cooperative will put a new, temporary government in place that is comprised of people from Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and all the organizations that have finally made us aware of the truth of the savage practices and illegal policies of our government in assassinating our own officials as well as people throughout the world who oppose their criminal activity."
Bush-bashing filmmaker Michael Moore apparently endorses the coup plan, linking to the "Storm the White House" message on his Web site.
You folks are GREAT
oh I see, Calling Clinton a murderer and rapist is ok I guess.
Posted by goose1 at March 2, 2006 04:54 PMoh I see, Calling Clinton a murderer and rapist is ok I guess.
Posted by goose1 at March 2, 2006 04:54 PM
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I've never called Clintoon a murderer...rapist yes...there is not enough evidence in to call him a murderer...yet...
BTW...I plan on being there at the WH to trip the idiots trying to storm it.
Hey...have you guys seen all the coverage about the Conyers scandal...no?....me neither....big surprise, huh?
Posted by dipshit at March 2, 2006 04:59 PMGoing Down!
Floor, Please?
Basement
Sub-Basement
First floor
Are we there yet?
Third floor! More to go.
Sharon, I'm waiting for the cognitive dissonance to resonate at just the right frequency to make their heads explode a la Mars Attacks! It can't be long now.
Posted by iamcoyote at March 2, 2006 05:04 PM"You folks are GREAT"
You damn straight they are. Instead of ass kissing a coke sniffing drunk who is a moral coward who's core values is only about the almighty buck. They have the God given American sense to oppose that kind of crap.
One other thing Bush ass lickers. Cheney the prick is at 18 % and dropping.
Another point is that even so called conservatives are coming out this week and saying what a dip shit loser Bush is.
I live in one of the reddest states round and the port deal has everyone pissed off.
You bush lickers have no class. These people do.
nuff said.
Hey No-name,
The very fact that you try to make an analogy between Abraham Lincoln, the man who wrote the Emancipation Proclimation and the Gettysburg Address, and G.W.Bush-it reveals the reason why no one with 2 brain cells to rub together cares to listen to your drivel. It's obvious that you are anonymous for a reason.
Hey No-name,
The very fact that you try to make an analogy between Abraham Lincoln, the man who wrote the Emancipation Proclimation and the Gettysburg Address, and G.W.Bush-it reveals the reason why no one with 2 brain cells to rub together cares to listen to your drivel. It's obvious that you are anonymous for a reason.
URcoyote: Is Slim Whittman still alive? Your plan has merit.
Posted by TIKI AL at March 2, 2006 05:19 PMIs Slim Whittman still alive?
Y'know, I'm not sure, but all we really need is two turntables and a microphone. Then we can sit back and watch their heads explode. I'll get the popcorn.
Posted by iamcoyote at March 2, 2006 05:52 PMCleanup'll be easy. No brains will be splattered, just some rockhard scull shards to pick up.
Posted by Sharon at March 2, 2006 06:12 PMskull, that it. I passed anatomy, just not spelling.
Posted by Sharon at March 2, 2006 06:12 PMTime to reserve the Ryder truck to move George & Pickles' shit from the White House to the Crawford, TX pig farm.
Wave buh bye, Little Boots! Hahahahahaha!
Posted by Christopher at March 2, 2006 06:34 PMAbraham Lincoln's numbers were not very good during a threatening time for the Union. He also had conviction.
Sorta:
If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.Posted by dj moonbat at March 2, 2006 06:37 PM
I understand Abe's numbers went up after the play.
URcoyote: The exploding head thing would be easier than impeachment, but is it constitional?
Posted by TIKI AL at March 2, 2006 07:03 PMBTW...I plan on being there at the WH to trip the idiots trying to storm it.
Hey...have you guys seen all the coverage about the Conyers scandal...no?....me neither....big surprise, huh?
Posted by dipshit at March 2, 2006 04:59 PM
*****
Why don't you just come see me.
Posted by God Of War at March 2, 2006 07:08 PMI have dish network and do watch Link TV& Free Speech TV. Maybe if you were seeing those channels instead of FOX and CNN, our youth, armies and adults would not believe that Iraq was responsible for 9/11. What is really happening to us! The lies are that they had to invade somewhere else before Iraqis for the oils! Afghanistan was the best start. It is all coming out by bits and pieces because a lot of people are so disgust with these un-elected in power.
Yesterday, we did explode an atomic bomb underground in the USA. Welcome to cancer for all of us! Unless they think it will go nowhere! You know the Radiation? Are we so stupid!
What do you think is happening in Iraq today! The amount of malformed birth had increased since Gulf war 1! The Gulf syndrome of that war in America has never been published! Soldiers died without making the front page of any reputable newspaper. I knew one case; He died leaving wife and child. How many have died of that disease.
As the amount of depleted uranium-bombing has double from the first gulf war under the idiot sons, what are you expecting of this war mortality of our sons will faced!
President Johnson knew that by enacting the civil war act, the south would change and would turn Republicans. One of the few I could remember was Storm Thurmond, he did change parties. And stay in congress until he died at the age of 100? He was really doing the people work sleeping to his death.
Read about him. It would blow you might.
Democrat turn republican because of?????
Abe came around in the end to realize - or maybe find the rational argument - that if the union was to be preserved, slavery had to go.
He never did have much of a conviction about ending slavery, but he was firm 'n' resolute about preserving the country.
Posted by idiosynchronic at March 2, 2006 07:16 PMTIKI - An act of God, unconstitutional?
Posted by iamcoyote at March 2, 2006 07:22 PMI read this (or something like it) recently:
More than half of the first Gulf War veterans are on permanent disability. And I wonder how many others have been refused disability benefits since I know that happens in the civilian population typically.
Even FOXNews(GOP-TV) has been forced to concede Little Boots is about as popular as bird flu!
Posted by Christopher at March 2, 2006 08:13 PMSteve, You kicked some ass today! Thanks!
Posted by bbtb at March 2, 2006 08:24 PMOur anonymous troll in this thread, according to his/her IP address, has also gone by the names jj, Cappy, TL, Joanie, Ellen, Alice, Hank, Theo, Camille, Alex, Reason, and Cleo.
Given the identity crisis, and the fact that I am less and less enamored of paying for bandwith for these types of folks, anon will have to get a new IP address.
Posted by Steve Soto at March 2, 2006 08:50 PMGulags For American Citizens In Final Planning Stages
Halliburton criminals prepare camps for political dissidents
Bush administration and US army preparations to target American citizens and intern them in forced labor camps has vastly accelerated in the past month and commentators from all over the political spectrum are sounding the alarm bells that the round-ups may begin soon.
Once the bane of the media's stereotypical 'tin foil hat wearing' caricatures, concentration camps in America are now serious news and no one is laughing.
Following the news first given wide attention by this website, that Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root had been awarded a $385 million dollar contract by Homeland Security to construct detention and processing facilities in the event of a national emergency, the Alternet website put together an alarming report that collated all the latest information on plans to initiate internment of political subversives and Muslims after the next major terror attack in the US.
The article highlighted the disturbing comments of Sen. Lindsey Graham, who encouraged torture supporting Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to target, "Fifth Columnists" Americans who show disloyalty and sympathize with "the enemy," whoever that enemy may be.
It is important to stress that the historical precedent mirrors exactly what the Halliburton camp deal outlines. Oliver North's Reagan era Rex 84 plan proposed rounding up 400,000 refugees, under FEMA, in the event of "uncontrolled population movements" over the Mexican border into the United States.
The real agenda, just as it is with Halliburton's gulags, was to use the cover of rounding up immigrants and illegal aliens as a smokescreen for targeting political dissidents. From 1967 to 1971 the FBI kept a list of persons to be rounded up as subversive, dubbed the "ADEX" list.
The current terrorist suspect list was recently revealed to contain the names of 325,000 people. The government claimed that only a tiny fraction were American citizens living in America but when compared to the potential terrorist list in the UK, which under section 44 of the terrorism act has ensnared at least 119,000 people, most of them innocent protesters, the number is likely to be far higher. Britain's population is only 60 million compared to the US at 295 million.
Halliburton, through their KBR subsidiary, is the same company that built most of the major new detention camps in Iraq and Afghanistan. KBR have been embroiled in a human sex slave trade that their representatives have lobbied to continue.
We have a company that has been handed a contract to build prison camps in America that is engaged in trafficking young girls and women. Can this horror movie get any more frightening?
A much discussed and circulated report, the Pentagon's Civilian Inmate Labor Program, has recently been updated and the revision details a "template for developing agreements" between the Army and corrections facilities for the use of civilian inmate labor on Army installations."
The plan is clearly to swallow up disenfranchised groups likes prisoners and Muslims at first and then extend the policy to include 'Fifth Columnists,' otherwise known as anyone who disagrees with the government or exercises their Constitutional rights.
Respected author Peter Dale Scott speculated that the "detention centers could be used to detain American citizens if the Bush administration were to declare martial law."
Daniel Ellsberg, former Special Assistant to Assistant Secretary of Defense, called the plan, "preparation for a roundup after the next 9/11 for Mid-Easterners, Muslims and possibly dissenters. They've already done this on a smaller scale, with the 'special registration' detentions of immigrant men from Muslim countries, and with Guantanamo."
George Bush has declared himself to be dictator and to have supreme power over and above the limitations of the US Constitution. Bush administration officials like Alberto Gonzales have declared Bush to be "above the law." White House advisors are openly discussing the legality of crushing a child's testicles as part of the war on terror. Preparation for the internment of thousands of Americans who are 'disloyal' in times of emergency are afoot.
The next step is clearer than it has ever been. One more large scale staged terror attack in America and the result will be martial law. When even famous singers like Morrissey are being detained and questioned by the secret service for "speaking out against the American and British governments," we know we are in a lot of trouble.
Is Iraq Civil War By Design?
Turmoil stoked by staged bombings leads to ethnic cleansing and enslavement
The Associated Press is reporting that civil war looms in Iraq as bombings tear across the country. Is this disaster really a result of a failed foreign policy or is it a deliberate plan to initiate a policy of ethnic cleansing that will finally allow the Globalists to capture and dominate Iraq as they never could before?
The agenda to maintain division and ethnic tension in Iraq can be seen as long term plan and the only way to finally capture and enslave a country that has historically thrown out its occupiers on every occasion.
In 1982, Oded Yinon, an official from the Israeli Foreign Affairs office, wrote: "To dissolve Iraq is even more important for us than dissolving Syria. In the short term, it's Iraqi power that constitutes the greatest threat to Israel. The Iran-Iraq war tore Iraq apart and provoked its downfall. All manner of inter-Arab conflict help us and accelerate our goal of breaking up Iraq into small, diverse pieces."
Ethnic cleansing, maimed children and thousands of dead American soldiers are a small price to pay because for the Globalists the end always justifies the means and untold bloodshed and misery and bloodshed won't stand in their way.
Such a strategy, aimed at marginalizing the Sunni resistance, the group that always spearheads opposition to occupation in Iraq, has also been triumphed by such luminaries at Council on Foreign Relations member and New York Times editor Leslie Gelb.
So if the plan is to keep the different sects at each others' throats then who benefits from the chaos created by the endless bombings? It is a myth that Sunni and Shia factions in Iraq violently despise each other's very existence. Most co-exist peacefully and only fringe elements are interested in stoking tension, this according to Dahr Jamail, an unembedded journalists living in and reporting from Iraq.
Jamail agrees that it is inconceivable that Sunni or Shia factions would even consider attacking religious shrines like Samarra's Golden Mosque. Iran has blamed the US and Israel for the attack and former CIA analyst and presidential advisor Ray McGovern concurs that they would have had the motive. Previous examples shed light on the plausible identity of the perpetrators.
In September 2005, British SAS were caught attempting to stage a terror attack by disguising themselves as Arabs and attacking Iraqi police. The soldiers were arrested and taken to a nearby jail where they were confronted and interrogated by an Iraqi judge.
The initial demand from the puppet authorities that the soldiers be released was rejected by the Basra government. At that point tanks were sent in to 'rescue' the terrorists and the 'liberated' Iraqis started to riot, firebombing and pelting stones at the vehicles injuring British troops.
The only news outlet to ask any serious questions was Australian TV news which according to one viewer gave, "credibility to the 'conspiracy theorists' who have long claimed many terrorist acts in Iraq are, in fact, being initiated and carried out by US, British and Israeli forces."
The consequences of this strategy of tension are obviously hideous for Iraqis and their future generations but they also come home to roost for Westerners. As a result of the disaster in Iraq, the sullied reputation of the United States has collapsed and its government is increasingly seen as out of control and illegitimate. While on the surface this is true it is also by design because it opens the door for a Globalist form of world dictatorship to step in and 'rescue' the American people from its tyrannical government.
The end game is the complete destruction of US sovereignty.
Meet the new boss, worse than the old boss.
Long term change is possible. This is the stuff that re-alignments are made of. In 1968, the new deal coalition split over Vietnam, which gave the "southern strategy" wing of the GOP under Nixon the chance to not only seize control of the GOP from the northern moderates, but because of some related demographic changes to gain a practical majority in America.
The Nixon coalition was already dying when the powers that be within it chose lil' boots as their standard bearer in the late 90's. He was the best funded national candidate in history, which is remarkable considering that he was a first time candidate for president. Yet, McCain almost derailed him, exposing the fact that the Nixon coalitions' power wasn't even absolute anymore within their own party. The fact that dispite Nader, Bush was still the popular vote loser in 2000, reinforces that point.
Few would argue at this point that if it weren't for 911, the accidental president Bush would have been a one term president quickly forgotten by history. As it is, America may well be blessed in an odd way by having to live with lil' boots for a second term for the incompetence, crony capitalism and just plain dishonesty of this whole rotten crew of hangers' on from the dying coalition is being exposed by reality in a way that can only be denied by the most reactionary elements within the old coalition.
Most Americans who voted for Bush in 2004 don't really fit the reactionary mold. The security mom/dad types are a big reason that the high 40's/low 50's poll numbers bouyed Bush pre-Katrina. These people saw that the current administration was unfit to protect the families that are the center of their lives. Married people are the majority of voters and scince 1968 the GOP has had success in capturing most of their votes. The married vote is up for grabs now, if the Democrats can address security in a credable way, much of the groundwork needed to secure a progressive majority on other issues like healthcare where many of these working families need relief from insurance premimums and would respond to a pragmatic appeal.
On other family orented issues like education are also historical Democratic strongpoints. Even better, other progressive issues that appeal to mostly younger single voters like making college more affordable are not turn offs to the married, on most of these issues their interests coincide.
America has been changing demographically in ways like ethnicity and the fact that younger voters increasingly favor the Democrats. 911 temporarally forestalled these changes impacting the results seen on leection day. 911 also gave Bush and the GOP the chance to build a new majority coalition based on security related issues. The Republicans have blown a paradigm changing opportunity and these Americans are looking for a political home. As noted above these people could respond eagerly to a progressive agenda if their reservations about security are addressed. Democrats, if you want to take back America, this fall's election is a time we need to demand leadership and vision from our leaders, lest the beltway crowd bumble just enough to give the GOP a second chance.
Is it true Lincoln was going to send the slaves to Liberia after the war, and only changed his mind when he saw how well they fought for the cause?
Posted by TIKI AL at March 2, 2006 10:35 PMSome of the comments here confirm what we have been saying. Anon paints a very frightening scenaro. Claim martial law after another 9/11 attack. And who will see to it that another attack occurs? The people behind Bush, the puppeteers, have waiting generations to get this close to their dream of world dominance via dictatorial control, and they are not going to be stopped now. Pandora's box was opened when we allowed GWB to steal the WH and The New World Order was set in motion. I am convinced that there will never be another fair election, and eventually there will be no elections. (Look up New World Order).
October 1, 1990 -- In a U.N. address, President Bush speaks of the:
"... collective strength of the world community expressed by the U.N. ... an historic movement towards a new world order... a new partnership of nations... a time when humankind came into its own... to bring about a revolution of the spirit and the mind and begin a journey into a... new age."
1991 -- President Bush praises the New World Order in a State of Union Message:
"What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea -- a new world order... to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind... based on shared principles and the rule of law.... The illumination of a thousand points of light.... The winds of change are with us now."
February 6, 1991 -- President Bush tells the Economic Club of New York:
"My vision of a new world order foresees a United Nations with a revitalized peacekeeping function."
June, 1991 -- The Council on Foreign Relations co-sponsors an assembly Rethinking America's Security: Beyond Cold War to New World Order which is attended by 65 prestigious members of government, labor, academia, the media, military, and the professions from nine countries. Later, several of the conference participants joined some 100 other world leaders for another closed door meeting of the Bilderberg Society in Baden Baden, Germany. The Bilderbergers also exert considerable clout in determining the foreign policies of their respective governments. While at that meeting, David Rockefeller said in a speech:
"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
July, 1991 -- The Southeastern World Affairs Institute discusses the New World Order. In a program, topics include, Legal Structures for a New World Order and The United Nations: From its Conception to a New World Order.
Late July, 1991 -- On a Cable News Network program, CFR member and former CIA director Stansfield Turner (Rhodes scholar), when asked about Iraq, responded:
"We have a much bigger objective. We've got to look at the long run here. This is an example -- the situation between the United Nations and Iraq -- where the United Nations is deliberately intruding into the sovereignty of a sovereign nation... Now this is a marvelous precedent (to be used in) all countries of the world... "
No, and I don't have my tinfoil hat on.
Posted by Judith at March 2, 2006 11:22 PM
New poll on MSNBC just started. Looks like Bush's popularity isn't the only dog and pony show that is headed in a downward trend.
Who's your favorite cable news personality?
Keith Olbermann 81%
Bill O'Reilly 10%
Larry King 9%
Total Votes: 4,054
As someone once said of another Bu$h, "Stick a fork in him, he's done."
Posted by red_neck_repub at March 2, 2006 11:49 PMsomebody mentioned bird flu. Remember it wasn't long ago that Bush held a nationally broadcast Fright Conference telling us all how he was going to set in motion all this and that to save us from the flu. Where is that program? Remember the Energy Crisis...now its Addiction. Remember the Trip to Mars.....where is that program? And that's how its gone with one B.S. line after another from Bush. All talk. Mr. Security turns over ports to Arabs with terror ties. The War President says Mission Accomplished.....well it will be life accomplished for 2300 GI's in a day or so. Remember "not tolerate leaks in my Admin"? What about Scooter?
and on, and on, and on, and on........