Heck..you're gonna have quite a few people on the right thanking Feingold, too.
Not only was his motion completely and totally idiotic, but the ensuing scramble by the Dem senators to hide showed the American people what they're made of.....jello!
Posted by dipshit at March 15, 2006 09:17 AMI think Dubya's chances for a third term are being hammered by Iraq.
Posted by Mike at March 15, 2006 09:21 AMrule of law, schmule of law. what's the big deal?
Posted by monica lewinsky at March 15, 2006 09:38 AMMike, as long as the Repuke-lie-cons and their toadies own the voting machines, anything is possible. As long as Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia are counting the votes, it is doubtful that ANY Democrat will ever take a national election again. No paper trail ( the currency of democracy is the paper trail), Republican-backed corporations writing the software, and no bi-partisan technical review of the code is ever allowed. Manual recounts and verification of the ballots is now ILLEGAL in Lord Bu$h's Florida. At the same time all this is happening, Republicans start sweeping the elections, and the normally highly reliable exit-polls suddenly become highly discordant with the computer-generated poll results. Interestingly, in precincts where there were no machines, the exit-polls were highly accurate. Hmmm, something fishy here. I wonder what it could be? We have got to restore integrity to the election process. The machines have got to go.
Posted by oppressmenot at March 15, 2006 09:50 AMI think eriposte was correct yesterday in that Feingold is even smarter than we thought. We're talking about the illegal wiretapping again and it's getting more media attention again. The public has a short attention span, so this was a great way to bring the issue up again. Also, it should mean senate debate will continue on the issue into the midterms. Sheer genius, you'd think Rove thought it up.
Posted by ann at March 15, 2006 09:55 AMTwo courageous Democrats support Feingold's resolution.
Posted by ann at March 15, 2006 09:59 AMAnn, There is only 1 Dem in your linked article. Chafee is a Republican. But I saw where Boxer will support it also.
Posted by goose1 at March 15, 2006 10:05 AMToo funny...oppressmenot is trying to breathe life back into that long dead and disproven whack job conspiracy theory about Diebold et al.
Meanwhile, he's tiptoeing around the 2000 lb. elephant in the room of the dozens of proven instances of Democrat election fraud in the past few elections.
Posted by dipshit at March 15, 2006 10:06 AMgoose, you're right I misread. not to mention that I couldn't imagine a Republican supporting the resolution! I've also heard that Durbin is leaning towards supporting the resolution.
Posted by ann at March 15, 2006 10:09 AMThere were documented and proven cases of election fraud by Dems in:
Alabama
Colorado
Florida
Illionois
Kentucky
Michigan
Minnesota
Missouri
Nevada
New Mexico
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Virginia
West Virginia
Wisconsin
I'm sure more will be found.
Posted by dipshit at March 15, 2006 10:13 AMGood Morning!
Hey, TLC, you rock!
I have posted links at many blogs to here for the details.
This is gaining momentum.
Ann, your idea to hit the big hitters is great - I will look into that when I get back from work.
I am really grateful to you who have supported this campaign.
TLC deserves an enormous kudos and hat tip!
Posted by Anjha at March 15, 2006 10:14 AMWhy is dipshit still allowed to post here? Ignoring his crap; but it is stinking up the whole friggin house.
Posted by Anjha at March 15, 2006 10:15 AMWhy is dipshit still allowed to post here?
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It's called free speech. You are the one that should not be allowed to post here because you are very abusive.
Posted by dipshit at March 15, 2006 10:17 AMI just called Feingold's office to thank him.
Posted by dipshit at March 15, 2006 10:19 AMGot to love that Dipshit. Let's not address any real issues, lets ingore the facts and the points raised. Instead, he resorts to the falacious and 3rd grade tactic of "My guys?? Look at your guys! You did it first, and I'm telling Mom". Dippy boy, I expected better of you. Well, run along home now and explain to Mommy why you're late. Oh yea, it's because you are a poor person in an ethnically diverse neighborhood who had to WAIT 8 HOURS IN LINE in order to cast your vote because there were only 20% of the needed machines actually delivered to your precinct.
CNN is reporting of pressure on Bush to bring in a political old-timer to try and right the ship. I guess I thought that was the reason for putting Filthy Mouth Dick Cheney in as VP? Whoa!! here's a great couple ideas - how about old man Bush? or Bill Clinton....or, since they've become best buddies, how about boffum?? That way, with two ex-pres' on board, George W. could go ahead and start planning his usual August vacation without worrying about all the mess he's got on his plate.
Posted by T2 at March 15, 2006 10:20 AMLet's go. The Support Feingold campaign rolls on!! We can make a difference!!
Posted by oppressmenot at March 15, 2006 10:23 AMAnjha, you've done a great job with the viral campaign!
Posted by iamcoyote at March 15, 2006 10:33 AMIt's called free speech. You are the one that should not be allowed to post here because you are very abusive.
Posted by dipshit at March 15, 2006 10:17 AM
I am actually laughing; please illustrate my abusiveness...link?
Can we add Dipshit to the list of trolls who need psychiatric treatment? Paranoid complex. Seems to me that he suffers from Borderline Personality Disorder. See DSM IV.
Fits well.
Thanks, Coyote.
I am off to work now (actually dressed!) see you all later.
Posted by Anjha at March 15, 2006 10:48 AMOh yea, it's because you are a poor person in an ethnically diverse neighborhood who had to WAIT 8 HOURS IN LINE in order to cast your vote because there were only 20% of the needed machines actually delivered to your precinct.
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Oh.. you must be referring to the lies about the Columbus,Ohio vote. Did you know that the precints with the longest lines were actually predominantly white and predominately conservative?
Oh...by the way...the Elections Board Chairman who actually has the final authority as for machine placement is a black Democrat, who by the way is also Chairman of the Franklin County Democrats
Posted by dipshit at March 15, 2006 11:14 AM"I am a black man. Why would I sit there and disenfranchise voters in my own community?" he said. "I feel like they’re accusing me of suppressing the black vote. I’ve fought my whole life for people’s right to vote."
William A. Anthony
Franklin Co. Ohio Democrat Chairman
& Franklin Co., Ohio Board of
Elections Chairman
Ooops. And then there was silence! They don't seem to have an answer for you DS .
Posted by Talons at March 15, 2006 12:27 PMAnjha, no, thank you. Don't overdo it at work today, we need you strong, lady!
Posted by iamcoyote at March 15, 2006 12:32 PMI don't think the USA has the personnel or finances to mount a war in Iran -- a country much larger and more populous than Iraq.
Bush is a blow hard; a paper cowboy. Now, I do think the neocons orbiting him are jones'n for a war in Iran, but the American people are weary of war and Bush and the Middle East.
Posted by Christopher at March 15, 2006 12:34 PMWoooo!! All those calls threatening Harkin and his poodles did the trick! Tom Harkin's co-sponsoring!
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What? What'd I do?
Posted by idiosynchronic at March 15, 2006 12:41 PMThey don't seem to have an answer for you DS .
I'm working on it, tool! It will be posted shortly.
Posted by pessimist at March 15, 2006 12:50 PMFeingold's resolution in no way is indicative that the Senator possesses exceptional political courage. On the contrary. What it does indicate is a bedrock comprehension of the stakes inherent in the assualt on our Constitutional liberties by the GOP Bushites and their collaborators within the Democratic party.
Any Democrat unprepared to endorse the Resolution of Censure is an appeasor of treason. Any Democratic representative, House or Senate, unprepared to endorse it is no democrat at all.
Posted by Sonoma at March 15, 2006 12:52 PMpessimist, why bother? You know it's a waste of time with the waste of space "ds" and his "sidekick" jeffylube.
Posted by iamcoyote at March 15, 2006 01:17 PMHere is the e-mail from Move on. I just sign it.
Dear MoveOn member,
Yesterday, Senator Russ Feingold introduced a resolution to censure President Bush for breaking the law by illegally wiretapping American citizens.
Censuring a sitting president is serious business. But when the president misleads the public and Congress while willfully and repeatedly breaking the law, there must be consequences—that's how the law works for everybody else.
While most politicians sat back and weighed the political pros and cons of holding the president accountable, Senator Feingold stuck his neck out and did it. Now it's up to us to show broad public support. Can you sign our petition asking Congress to join the call for censure?
Right now it's unclear how many of Senator Feingold's colleagues will stand with him in this important fight. If we can reach 250,000 signatures, we'll deliver your comments to your senators this week to demonstrate widespread public support censuring the president for breaking the law. We'll also send a copy of the complete petition to Senator Feingold to show our support for his courage.
President Bush already had the authority to wiretap suspected terrorists—he could even wiretap first and get warrants 3 days later. But he chose to get no warrants at all, clearly violating the law set up to protect innocent Americans and then he misled the Congress and the public about his program.1
Censuring the president means Congress officially acknowledges that the president broke the law and condemns him for doing it. Given the scale of the president's problem, it's a very reasonable first step to holding him accountable. This is a key moment for Congress to show that they're serious about checks and balances.
Our country was founded on the idea that everyone—even the president—has to follow the law. Supporting censure is the best opportunity we've got to keep that ideal alive. Can you sign our petition today?
We've reached 68% of our NEW goal of 350,000 signers! (238,860)
Until yesterday, Feingold had daydreams where everyone was calling him "Mr. President".
Now, that's been replaced by everyone around him saying,"I'll have a side of fries with that Big Mac."
I'm telling you, the cowardly moron just committed political suicide.
Posted by dipshit at March 15, 2006 02:25 PMTalons, feel free to "bite me" at any time. Some of us have JOBS and have to work for a living. You might want to try it sometime. I know, why don't you get 3 jobs and work all of them, just to feed your family? Because, after all, following what your master said, it's "uniquely American" to have to work night and day, and never see your family so that the corporations and the wealthiest can get another tax cut, during WAR time.
Posted by oppressmenot at March 15, 2006 02:28 PMnot stupid, thanks for the link. It's worth it to watch the little trollikins squirm. They sound like the demons inside Linda Blair when the priests were exorcising them.
Posted by iamcoyote at March 15, 2006 02:32 PMit sure is cowardly to demand accountablilty. it sure is moronic to expect the president to abide by the rule of law. it sure is patriotic to kill thousands of people it sure is brave to evade military duty in a time of war it sure is treasonous to put your little soldier in a girl's mouth
Posted by at March 15, 2006 02:37 PMhey, i love this country!
Posted by monica lewinsky at March 15, 2006 02:39 PMdipshit, come join us, you can use that razor right there. you'll be a hero!
Posted by 2,314 US military at March 15, 2006 02:42 PMdipshit, come join us, you can use that razor right there. you'll be a hero!
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I'd be a hero for just shaving???? Wow, the hygiene of you guys must be just awful.
Posted by dipshit at March 15, 2006 02:51 PMyes, our hygeine is terrible cause we're dead and thanks a lot for that. now snuff it, little patriot.
I did that yesterday and they were delighted to hear from me.
Posted by Retired Catholic at March 15, 2006 03:05 PMBoo!
you peed yourself. ha ha.
Posted by the ayrabs under bagley's bed at March 15, 2006 03:11 PMiamcoyote Your welcome. This way we are sure it reach all and the democrats will know that we agree with Senator Feingold. I am sick and tired to have this administration and Repug’s congress, Spineless Dems are representing us!
Today “Democracy Now” had a discussion about our military.
“Concerned about growing desertion and resistance within the military, the U.S. government is arresting men who refused to fight a generation ago in the Vietnam War. We speak with Ernest "Buck" McQueen, a Vietnam War resister who was jailed in January for desertion, 40 years after he left the Marines and his attorney, Tod Ensign who is the director of GI advocacy group, Citizen Soldier.
http://www.democracynow.org/
They don't seem to have an answer for you DS .
I'm working on it, tool! It will be posted shortly.
Posted by pessimist at March 15, 2006 12:50 PM
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You know, sometimes when I read something I don't recognize our Country. This article makes me furious. People like Robertson and Coulter again and again say certain people should be murdered, and no one halls their collective asses into a court of law. No wonder Sandra Day O'Connor checked out. I guess if they won't retire, threatening them is the next best thing. Right?
Supreme Court Justice Reveals Death Threats
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said she and former Justice Sandra Day O'Connor have been the targets of death threats from the "irrational fringe" of society, people apparently spurred by Republican criticism of the high court.
Ginsburg revealed in a speech in South Africa last month that she and O'Connor were threatened a year ago by someone who called on the Internet for the immediate "patriotic" killing of the justices.
Security concerns among judges have been growing.
Conservative commentator Ann Coulter joked earlier this year that Justice John Paul Stevens should be poisoned. Over the past few months O'Connor has complained that criticism, mainly by Republicans, has threatened judicial independence to deal with difficult issues like gay marriage.
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20060315163009990004
Oh.. you must be referring to the lies about the Columbus,Ohio vote. Did you know that the precints with the longest lines were actually predominantly white and predominately conservative?... Posted by dipshit at March 15, 2006 11:14 AM Actually, I AM refering to Columbus, Ohio, and Palm Beach, Duvall County, and the 6 MILLION other disenfranchised voters. You try to errantly focus on one small precinct, as if that was the only little problem, and then you hope no one notices. Very poor form Dippy boy. Oh...by the way...the Elections Board Chairman who actually has the final authority as for machine placement is a black Democrat, who by the way is also Chairman of the Franklin County Democrats Posted by dipshit at March 15, 2006 11:14 AM Nice try Dippy Boy. You continue to use the same strategy over and over. (hint: You may want to try changing tactics once in a while). What about all the other counties all over the state? There were reports from county after county of inadequate levels of voting machines from multiple states/county's where specific subgroups were systematically excluded. We are talking here about way more than merely one person, one machine placement decision (which is not to say that it is not an important issue). However, disenfranchisement comes in many forms, as I am sure you know as you have probably participated in all of them. You try to portray an imaginary world, as if there were no other voting problems anywhere. But maybe there were. Hmmm, let's pick another state out of a hat. I know, how about Florida?! I am sure you LOVE Florida, right Dippy? It is abundantly clear that the disenfranchisement of Florida’s voters fell most harshly on the shoulders of black voters. The magnitude of the impact can be seen from any of several perspectives: * Statewide, based upon county-level statistical estimates, black voters were nearly 10 times more likely than nonblack voters to have their ballots rejected. * Estimates indicate that approximately 14.4 percent of Florida’s black voters cast ballots that were rejected. This compares with approximately 1.6 percent of nonblack Florida voters who did not have their presidential votes counted. * Statistical analysis shows that the disparity in ballot spoilage rates—i.e., ballots cast but not counted—between black and nonblack voters is not the result of education or literacy differences. This conclusion is supported by **Governor Jeb Bush’s Select Task Force on Election Procedures, Standards and Technology**, which found that error rates stemming from uneducated, uninformed, or disinterested voters account for less than 1 percent of the problems. * Approximately 11 percent of Florida voters were African American; however, African Americans cast about 54 percent of the 180,000 spoiled ballots in Florida during the November 2000 election based on estimates derived from county-level data. These statewide estimates were corroborated by the results in several counties based on actual precinct data. Poor counties, particularly those with large minority populations, were more likely to possess voting systems with higher spoilage rates than the more affluent counties with significant white populations. There is a high correlation between counties and precincts with a high percentage of African American voters and the percentage of spoiled ballots. We could also talk about accessability issues, the purging of predominantly lower-income citizens from voter roles, erroniously declaring non-felons as former felons, etc...from many states and counties. Now, please take your little one-trick pony and both of you ride off into the sunset.
Posted by oppressmenot at March 15, 2006 05:15 PMWhat oppressmenot said!
Posted by iamcoyote at March 15, 2006 06:03 PMoppressmenot, excellent rebuttal, but a waste of your valuable time on people like Dipshit.
Posted by Judith at March 15, 2006 06:21 PMBy-the-way, Dipshit is a liar. There was no election fraud in Missouri by Democrats.
Posted by Judith at March 15, 2006 06:24 PMBy-the-way, Dipshit is a liar. There was no election fraud in Missouri by Democrats.
Posted by Judith at March 15, 2006 06:24 PM
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Oh so what you're saying is the following is just business as usual for the evil and corrupt Dems:
Missouri
(A) ACORN Linked To Voter Registration Fraud In Missouri
In September 2003, St. Louis Election Board workers discovered more than 1,000 suspicious new voter registration forms among a batch of 5,000 submitted by ACORN. Keena Carter, the election board’s deputy Democratic director, first became suspicious after discovering a blatantly fraudulent form attempting to re-register her brother, Alderman Greg Carter (D-27th Ward), under the name “Alderman Gregory” and listing his office address as his home. Election Board workers called one of the names listed on the suspicious forms only to find that the name listed on the form was that of a baby. Many of the bogus forms listed addresses in Illinois and elsewhere in Missouri outside of St. Louis. ACORN blamed most of the group’s fraudulent registrations on four temporary workers that ACORN said it fired after the workers admitted filling out forms with fake names, addresses and Social Security numbers. (217)
ACORN employees submitted fraudulent voter registration forms in Kansas City as well, according to news reports. Andrew Ginsberg, ACORN’s head organizer in Kansas City, admitted to firing “five or six employees” for submitting fraudulent registrations to election officials, and turned their names over to police. These cases reportedly included ACORN workers making up names as well as submitting duplicate registrations. (218)
Less than a month before the November election, workers at the St. Louis County Board of Election were still finding fraudulent registrations. KMOV News 4 reported in early October that election officials were “trashing hundreds of faulty voter registrations, most of them collected by voter drive groups like Pro-Vote and America Coming Together.” KMOV’s report indicated that 10,000 new voter registration forms were submitted to the county elections office in the days before the registration deadline and asked, “[C]an all of them be checked before November 2?” (219)
(B) Operation Big Vote And Voter Registration Fraud In St. Louis
In February 2005, a St. Louis jury convicted Nonaresa Montgomery, the head of Operation Big Vote, of lying to a grand jury investigating thousands of fraudulent voter registration forms turned in to the city elections board before the 2001 mayoral primary. Montgomery’s perjury stemmed from her statement that she could not track the cards that she turned into the board when in fact she could. (220) Testimony in the case indicated that destroying copies of the fraudulent forms was discussed at a meeting attended by Montgomery, St. Louis Comptroller Darlene Green, assistant Democratic election board director Keena Carter and longtime political activist Pearlie Evans. (221)
Six Operation Big Vote volunteers pled guilty in December 2004 to dozens of election law violations for filling out the fraudulent forms. (222) Prosecutors had alleged that Operation Big Vote used names of dead people (including that of longtime Alderman Albert “Red” Villa, who died in 1990), prepared multiple registration forms for the same person, filled out forms on behalf of others with or without their permission and simply made up people to register. (223)
(C) Fraudulent Voter Registration Activity In Missouri By America Coming Together (ACT) And Missouri Pro-Vote
In June 2004, the St. Louis-based nonpartisan nonprofit Center for Ethics and the Free Market reported that thousands of duplicative and fraudulent voter registration forms were filed in the county by America Coming Together (ACT) and Missouri Pro-Vote. The Center found that more than a quarter of the voter registration applications turned in to St. Louis officials by these two groups were “deemed duplicative,” and hundreds were rejected by election officials as they came from ineligible voters. (224) (Exhibit S)
(D) Corrupted Voter Rolls And Double-Voting In Missouri
In May 2004, Democrat State Auditor Claire McCaskill released an audit finding that the St. Louis Election Board’s voter files included dead people, felons and Illinois residents. McCaskill’s audit found that “nearly 10 percent, or 24,000, of the city’s registered voters are either dead, been convicted of a felony, registered in another jurisdiction or otherwise questionable.” (225)
In September 2004, the Kansas City Star reported that more than 300 people may have voted twice in the same election in Missouri in 2000 and 2002, though the number “could be even higher.” The Star found about 150 potential double-voters in St. Louis or St. Louis County, 60 in the Kansas City area and the rest spread around the state. (226)
Posted by at March 15, 2006 06:45 PMToo funny....just because oppressmenot posts a rambling, incoherent, fatuous diatribe does not at all mean that the content approaches anything near the truth.
When I have a spare few minutes, I will demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt the utter cluelessness of oppressmenot.
I have a sparring session tonight, so it will have to wait until tomorrow.
Stay tuned...it ain't gonna be pretty. Sorry opresss
Posted by dipshit at March 15, 2006 06:50 PMTalons! dipshit! Come and get it!
Posted by pessimist at March 15, 2006 06:52 PMIt appears to me that Dip...( certain words are not my thing) is more than capable to debate us in this setting-our problem seems to be that we cannot get beyond sniping and name calling when we don't agree. When you call someone a liar, you better have the facts to back it up or will look quite juvenile. When you indicate psyciatric problems because you can't come up with anything intelligent to answer an argument, it is quite telling. It was not one of your better moments Judith.
Posted by pigeon6 at March 15, 2006 06:57 PMHey judith...is this more business as usual for Dems in Missouri?....
Voter fraud and murder to cover it up??
Indicted and delighted
By: James Ingram
Thursday, February 3, 2005 3:37 PM CST
Well, I hate to say "I told you so," but …
That was all I could think as East St. Louis Police Chief Ronald Mathews, his secretary Janerra Carson-Slaughter, Department of Regulatory Affairs Director Kelvin Ellis and former auxiliary cop Ayoub "Dave" Qattoum were hauled away by FBI agents almost two weeks ago as the result of an ongoing federal investigation into voter fraud and public corruption in ESL.
Kelvin Ellis plotted to discredit, then murder, a federal witness, obstruct justice in the voter fraud investigation and engaged in income tax evasion for the past 3 years, according to a federal indictment filed on January 20, 2005.
Posted by dipshit at March 15, 2006 06:59 PMLOL, guys do a google. Dipshit has cut and pasted information from Bush campaign officials. Now you know why he doesn't post links, LOL!!!!
Posted by Ga6thDem at March 15, 2006 07:20 PMDipshit, first of all, East St. Louis is in Illinois, not Missouri.
ACRON and ACT are national organizations, and I do not approve of some of the things they have been accused of doing across this Country, anymore than I approve of what Florida did in the Presidential Election or Ohio, for that matter. I stand corrected in that both of these organizations have been accused of violating voter rights in Missouri and other states.
I can, however, speak for the City of St. Louis. The City is Democratic and the Republicans have been trying to steal votes here for years. It's been over 50 years since there was either a Republican mayor or a majority of Republican aldermen. It's been over a decade since a Republican from the city was elected to the Missouri General Assembly, around two decades since there was more than one Republican alderman, and even longer since there was a Republican in a citywide elected office. Democrats have had the City locked-up for years and will continue to be basically Democratic.
Having said that, I find it funny that you should talk about voter fraud.
Posted by Judith at March 15, 2006 08:57 PMBy-the-way, the City and the County of St. Louis are not one in the same. They are completely separate.
Posted by Judith at March 15, 2006 09:02 PMDipshit, first of all, East St. Louis is in Illinois, not Missouri.
Priceless.
Posted by ann at March 16, 2006 05:45 AM